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    Jester and Reaper in UT2004 compared to UT3

    http://forums.epicgames.com/showthre...9#post27110419

    Don't know how many people pays attention to the ut2004 part of the forums, but Jester and Reaper got ported to UT2004 and it's amazing how much better they look in UT2004 compared to UT3 including animations and ragdolls.
    Whoever said that the UT3 characters will look weird with all those UT2004 aecrobatics was wrong...

    Wouldn't mind Ut2004's animations getting ported over.

    #2
    I can't compare the animations/ragdolls, but the UT3 versions look much better to me.

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      #3
      Can someone upload the UT3 one? Connection giving problems atm.
      [screenshot]http://www.photostand.co.za/images/4msfs0hrcw9fubmq3txb.jpg[/screenshot]

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        #4
        How is that possible? The 2004 models look just as good as the UT3 models.

        I would think that an older graphics engine wouldn't be able to handle it.

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          #5
          It can't handle the more complex shaders, the normal-mapping, nor does it have the cloth-sim physics. The only thing 2k4 has that UT3 doesn't is the alpha mask on the hair.

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            #6
            Not exactly the same as I just called in a bot so he's missing the goggles.
            reaper.jpg

            To me the ut04 looks pleasant but very "flat". Like a high poly Pepakura model due to the absence of spec and norm maps.

            Also is it just be or does this ut04 port have a bigger head? It looks better, never did understand the arms thicker than heads business.

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              #7
              The models for UT2004 look great to me and so do the models in UT3. I knew it was possible to port them over to UT2004 and that's just the reason why I kept asking for someone to port them. I knew Redfrog was going to do the same thing over at L4Y.
              bottom line is that I really can't tell the difference between both models in UT2004 and UT3. Anyway, they'll all great looking.

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                #8
                Models can be done.What i really want is the sexy announcer voice of ut2k4.


                Modders find a sexy voice woman/girl n put her in work imo :P If its tooo sexy for this forum even better !

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                  #9
                  I guess I just have more of an eye for detail. I can see the bevelled areas and bumps in the fabric caused by the normal maps quite easily in the shots I posted. :/

                  lol Drunk. I want to see an annoucer voice ported across but I don't know about that one. She seems to be enjoying it too much.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by azurescorch View Post
                    lol Drunk. I want to see an annoucer voice ported across but I don't know about that one. She seems to be enjoying it too much.
                    Also, she sounds like she doesn't have a clue about the orb, so you can't just port her :P

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                      #11
                      Probably the best comparison screens I can find.

                      [screenshot]http://www.photostand.co.za/images/4msfs0hrcw9fubmq3txb.jpg[/screenshot]

                      [screenshot]http://www.treadster.com/ut3/ss/reaperAnim4.jpg[/screenshot]

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                        #12
                        I'm sorry, but to me, there's no way the 2k4 version looks better. The 2k4 version is perhaps comparable to the UT3 version on low-graphics settings.

                        A couple screens I took:

                        [shot]http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3083/highresscreenshot00007.jpg[/shot]

                        [shot]http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8947/highresscreenshot00006.jpg[/shot]

                        Compared to what you posted:

                        [shot]http://www.photostand.co.za/images/4msfs0hrcw9fubmq3txb.jpg[/shot]

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                          #13
                          Rhykker, the difference is in the PC itself. A much newer and more capable machine will net better results for UT3 characters and environments. I have an older machine at home running a single core processor and a Radeon X800XL. Although I can tweak UT3 to look fairly decent for still shots, gameplay is horribly handicapped at those graphic levels and even if it was smooth look nothing like the two UT3 screenies you posted. But playing UT2004 on that same machine? For one thing, I can actually use AA to help clean up the jaggedies, which do make for a better looking image, still or not. I get no such cleanup in UT3 unless I take a tiled screenshot at multiple times my resolution and then rescale the image to normal size. It looks cleaner but the lighting is no better than UT2004 lighting.

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                            #14
                            There is no comparison to be made. If you use max settings on both games the characters in the UT3 version will always look better but not necessarily play smoother (which isn't the point being made)

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                              #15
                              I agree with you completely, Crotale. I used to run UT3 on the barest minimum settings possible -- ini-tweaked way beyond the minimum allowed through GUI configuration.

                              My point is that the 2k4 version, in and of itself, does not look better than the UT3 version. Does the 2k4 version look bad? No. Is the 2k4 version comparable in quality to the lower-setting UT3 versions? Sure, as I mentioned above.

                              But if you're going to make a fair and honest comparison, you can't compare UT2k4 on max graphics settings to UT3 on lowest. The claim that the UT2k4 version looks better than the UT3 version is like claiming that I'm a better UT3 player than hypno -- if hypno is forced to play with one hand tied behind his back.

                              Peace
                              -Rhykker


                              EDIT: Partly ninja-d by Nammo.

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