Dueling revisited

[HideInLight]

Was thinking how should 1vs1 matches be hosted and played

What should the time limit be set at?
Do you think a option like "Win by trailing by X number of kills" would be a good idea if it existed?
What maps should be played?
How many games should be played?
Should the Shieldbelt be nerfed?
What do you do if more than one match needs to be played at the same time?

[d1vided_by_zer0]

you could have a look at the rules of some ladders like clanbase or esl.

clanbase has fraglimit 0, timelimit 15, utcomp and armor stacking on.

[aCRaSSiCauDa]

1- UTComp.
2- Time limit set to 10.
3- Frag limit set to 0.
4- Armor stacking on as stated above.
5- All DM maps that are suitable for a 1on1 battle.

[HideInLight]

1- UTComp.
2- Time limit set to 10.
3- Frag limit set to 0.
4- Armor stacking on as stated above.
5- All DM maps that are suitable for a 1on1 battle.

I like the 10min limit more than the 15min. That way you can play up to three maps in 30 mins, good for elimination competitions. Plus that's 5mins less agony when going up against an opponent that's far above your current skill level.

Can someone be more specific on the 1 vs 1 maps? I would like up to 10.
These are the ones I know are small enough for constant action and has decent performance.
DM-Biohazzard
DM-Sentinel
DM-RisingSun
DM-Q3ProTourney4

My idea for the map selection:

First match: Map is chosen randomly
Second match: Looser chooses map
Third match: Map is chosen randomly

This way if the looser of the first round can't win on his "best map" he is eliminated.

[HideInLight]

Looking at clanbase (Didn't even know they existed)
http://clanbase.ggl.com/news_league.php?lid=6601

Their maplist exist of only this?
DM-Subterrane
DM-Gritt
DM-Sentinel
DM-Deck-FPS
DM-1on1-Penetrated-LE

[aCRaSSiCauDa]

I would recommend this list of Duel maps

DM-1on1-Fisted
DM-1on1-Penetrated-LE
DM-1on1-Pure
DM-Acquisition
DM-Agony3-SE/Agony2
DM-Bonescraper
DM-Campgrounds]i[
DM-CBP3-Solar
DM-CBP3-Thor
DM-Deck-FPS
DM-Devolve
DM-Diesel
DM-Gritt
DM-HeatRay
DM-Intercept
DM-Rankin
DM-Sentinel
DM-Shangri La
DM-Subterrane
DM-Under2

It's the fraggednation Duel map list.

[i_hax]

The FraggedNation list is decent, IMO not perfect but it's pretty good.

...as for the other options, duel rules have basically been the same since game release (and previous UT's). Trying to change it now (i.e. nerfing belt) isn't a good way to attract players to a/your server.

[mega_d0peman]

So I was chillin at a duel server and had a few back and forth solid rounds with this guy.

ANd he told me after the first one that usin UDamage and Redeemer in Duel is considered "unethical" among odler players.

ANyone got a comment on that ?

[DaRk_DuDe]

So I was chillin at a duel server and had a few back and forth solid rounds with this guy.

ANd he told me after the first one that usin UDamage and Redeemer in Duel is considered "unethical" among odler players.

ANyone got a comment on that ?

Even better, the use of vehicles, powerups and superweapons like the Redeemer is prohibited in official duel matches for Clanbase/ESL.

These are also disabled when using duelmode with the utcomp mutator.

So, yes, it's unethical to say the least.

[jomi294]

dark_dude>ricot cu

[Warped_Out]

Fragged Nation dueling maps are totallty absurd..........

It is a totally obliteration of maps .......

This is UT3, correct?

I believe one can find great deuling maps in UT3 without resorting to.........aaah, Rankin? Agony, for god's sake?

Also, Hotcake, alias, jomi294 or whatever needs to learn some etiquette in hi-jacking threads........

[i_hax]

Totally absurd? A few are, but otherwise it's fine.

It includes all the main (i.e. played worldwide) duel maps, and that's what really matters.

[aCRaSSiCauDa]

Also i forgot to mention... Liandri is a perfect oldschool map it's called "DM-Liandri-Classic"

[jomi294]

Absurd I SAY!

[ffrr]

So I was chillin at a duel server and had a few back and forth solid rounds with this guy.

ANd he told me after the first one that usin UDamage and Redeemer in Duel is considered "unethical" among odler players.

ANyone got a comment on that ?

lol... I think it was my second or third time I tried duel on the PS3, I was up against Reverand Crow, or maybe Blackstar (it was over a year ago now), and I picked up the U damage on Sentinel... shortly after losing, by flawless victory, I got a message along the lines of 'hey noob, you're not supposed to do that' ...

So as a rule no power-ups and no redeemer. That seems totally fair in my opinion. Duel really is about who has the better, map knowledge/level of predictability and accuracy.