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    Originally posted by Moloko View Post
    Yeah it's bad, another problem is the "requesting team swap" bs. I happen to believe most players want & seek balanced teams for a closer game. Why can't players just switch at will , no requests, I mean it's not as though well known players can't be trusted to switch to-and-fro, as necessary, to balance things up, even mid game.
    Players should be able to switch instantly to the team with fewer players, that should be a given because there is no bad effect from that.

    In my experience there are not that many players who switch sides in order to keep things even. I would say there are many more who just want to be on the winning team no matter what. The best thing is to just disconnect from the server if your on that team. I call it voting with your feet. It's a waste of time to make any chat comments. Typically, the responses are not very polite, so why even go there. Then rejoin after a few minutes. If most players on the losing team disconnected, at least the teams would get mixed up some.

    Team balancing issues have likely been detrimental to this games online player numbers. Why would any player want to stick around and keep playing if they lose matches so badly. No fun in that. New players will not learn anything from that.

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    Yeah it's bad, another problem is the "requesting team swap" bs. I happen to believe most players want & seek balanced teams for a closer game. Why can't players just switch at will , no requests, I mean it's not as though well known players can't be trusted to switch to-and-fro, as necessary, to balance things up, even mid game.

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    Originally posted by oldkawman1 View Post
    There were still 19 average bots on it this weekend. Pretty bad teams. For some reason, most of the bots seem to gather on one team making things totally uneven. I will not join that server again until it's fixed.
    commiecat: Barktooth, don't take the orb!
    Barktooth took the red orb.
    commiecat: NO BARKTOOTH! DROP THE ORB!
    Barktooth: Whee! Lookit me! I'm on a skateboard!
    Barktooth: Heading to flood node.
    commiecat: NO! Our prime is down, go there!
    Barktooth: Whee! Lookit me! I'm on a skateboard!
    Bobba_Novis killed the red orb carrier.
    commiecat: Thanks Bobba.
    Wraith picked up the red orb.
    Wraith: Whee! Lookit me! I'm on a skateboard!
    commiecat: *facepalm*

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    Originally posted by commiecat View Post
    Well I can only speak for warfare specifically but as I mentioned, the minimum player count for Epic WAR #2 will be lowered in the next day or so when the server isn't full. They adjusted most of the official servers when this thread was started -- #2 might have just been missed or maybe misconfigured, but they're correcting it.

    I don't mind the bots for DM but they're aggravating in warfare. They take the orb and then sit still on their hoverboard for a few minutes before deciding to actually go somewhere.
    There were still 19 average bots on it this weekend. Pretty bad teams. For some reason, most of the bots seem to gather on one team making things totally uneven. I will not join that server again until it's fixed.

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    the bots need to stfu thats the truth, try and find people who play and find a way to contact them so you will have people to play with everyday

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    Originally posted by JeroKane View Post
    It's not only PS3. Most of the PC Servers are void of players too.

    There are very very few servers of each gametype that has actual people playing on it.

    It's pretty depressing really.

    I just bought the game last week, just to spend most of my time playing against bots.

    Biggest irony is that when I fire up UT2004, I see so many more people playing it. There are more active UT2004 servers then UT3.
    But more on Unreal 1999

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    Originally posted by 5yzygy View Post
    Because people don't play the game BECAUSE of these f*cking bots.

    It's THE worst AI I have ever seen in an FPS game.

    Clever AI don't cheat, anything above masterful cheats in this game.

    What's the f*cking point!?
    Well I can only speak for warfare specifically but as I mentioned, the minimum player count for Epic WAR #2 will be lowered in the next day or so when the server isn't full. They adjusted most of the official servers when this thread was started -- #2 might have just been missed or maybe misconfigured, but they're correcting it.

    I don't mind the bots for DM but they're aggravating in warfare. They take the orb and then sit still on their hoverboard for a few minutes before deciding to actually go somewhere.

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    Because people don't play the game BECAUSE of these f*cking bots.

    It's THE worst AI I have ever seen in an FPS game.

    Clever AI don't cheat, anything above masterful cheats in this game.

    What's the f*cking point!?

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    Originally posted by oldkawman1 View Post
    I no longer play as much as I did before the patch and expansion pack because of it. Way too many bots on the servers, just ruins the game for me. Normally ,I would join any game with 6 or more humans. But, I will not join a match with 6 humans and 9 bots. That's how most of the servers are set up. Some have even more bots, like 19, If I wanted to play bots, I would play off line. Now, I have no choice, bots are there unless the server is almost full. This just totally su<ks ****. This is making me not want to play.

    It is totally stupid to have all those bots and then set the skill to average on warfare servers. All average bots do is get vehicles stuck and the abandon them, almost every time in the same way depending on the map. Tank crossing with bots means the tank will get stuck and never cross the bridge or you will never take the node. The scorpions will be stuck sideways at the spawn points or in the rocks or the bot will abandon the vehicle so the other team can take it. Bots on Confrontation somehow get the scorpion stuck blocking access to the tower, avril and turret. I am not sure I have ever seen a bot actually drive any hellbender on any map without getting it stuck or abandoning to to the other team.

    Bots need to be set to higher skill in warfare, skilled or adept. There should never ever be more than 11 bots on any server. Those servers that have lots of bots are attempting to cater to n00bs, but there are very few of them playing, resulting in all the empty servers. You will not see me on any of them if there are more than 1-2 bots playing in game. This BS just ruins the online game.

    I agree, 2 vs 2 real players is better than playing with bots, a bot with an orb can be game spoiling, even with godlike bots they're easy to beat and generally pathetic because of the more tactical nature of Warfare and their slower response to fluid in-game developments. Though to be fair to Epic, I can understand the complexities involved in coding good AI for something with rapidly changing attack /defend objectives.

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    The official epic war servers are the only ones I see players on anymore so its pretty much the only servers I play in, just wish there were more people!

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  • replied
    Originally posted by Flak View Post
    I've lowered the number of bots on the Official Epic Servers.
    The Epic WAR #2 server should have the bot count lowered soon. I mentioned today that it was still set to 19 and got a PM that it would be fixed.

    Thanks to Flak and the server admins for their prompt response! Playing 7v7 and still having bots steal the orb kills a WAR match. Flippin' Barktooth.

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    Originally posted by Ā»TheHitManĀ« View Post
    UT2004 feels cartoony
    Well i like cartoony, with lots of colours instead of ut3's grey only... yes there are different kinds of grey but its still a grey game

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    you can tell which servers just have bots because there is a plus sign in front of the number eg +3/18 the +3 means there will be 3 bots when you join but no human players.

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    lol. thanks to Jash for his only post so far.

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  • replied
    Thanks Flak! The bots were really annoying, always grabbing the orb before you could get to it.

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