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    #76
    I get delay. Playing with low ping i feel my movement much faster. Faster response times.

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      #77
      all i can say it that you have too try it for you self play some game at the dfb server i play there some times too the only thing is slow some time is the hoverboard
      but i still can play good and kill some pll too
      i play in a American clan

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        #78
        Yes but as said, I don't get the logic of this netcode.
        I played on an official UT3 Warfare server some hours ago (USA).
        My ping was 230.
        The movement was fully okay (same as offline).
        But everything else was extremely delaying.
        Why is not all delaying?
        If movement (jumping, running etc.) works perfectly, why do not shooting and other things work perfectly as well?

        Greets

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          #79
          There is lag, movement on high ping servers is terrible, and I can feel it immediately. Sometimes you'll even get the occasional 'dud' dodges, where you will dodge but server will bump you back to original location. You will also get hit by rockets which you already evaded, etc.

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            #80
            Well... today i've played a match whith a ping of 400-500... And still got 21 kills with the impact hammer lol

            Unfortunately recently i got a problem with pings... the best ping i can get now is 175+... in this case i stay away from Snipers and Shock Rifles (Depends on the situation of other players).. With high pings i would recommend using weapons with wide affective radious.. such as Rocket Launcher, Flak Cannon and the Stinger Minigun (with stinger you gotta know where to aim).

            I'm not that good though... but i deal with what i get

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              #81
              You cant understand that you move slower sometimes. The other players (lowerpingers) can see it. Sometimes i can see myself dodge roxx n 1 sec later i get the "you died" msg.

              What we see its not what others see. In ut2k4 was the same. After the US server (..or any hig ping one) try a map in instant action. You can tell the difference.

              Btw in the US server at 230 ping (the one we played nightmare) i dont get as much pl as the EU servers. Strange.

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                #82
                Movement is interpolated clientside.

                You press a button and move in that direction instantly. The others see you moving later.

                Has been like that forever, so nothing new with UT3.

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                  #83
                  Tired of lag? Pay for T-quality bandwidth.

                  Remember, when the servers are dedicated, lag is your responsibility, and your fault.

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by natureboystyle05 View Post
                    Remember, when the servers are dedicated, lag is your responsibility, and your fault.
                    Aha, Epic Warfare Servers - dedicated.
                    Serenity, Avalanche with 32 players.
                    It's my fault that I get lag?
                    Forget it...

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by natureboystyle05 View Post
                      Tired of lag? Pay for T-quality bandwidth.

                      Remember, when the servers are dedicated, lag is your responsibility, and your fault.
                      That's the worst reply ever. Not every person is able to get a fast connection for many various reasons. Besides, distance and routing from ISP to server is most important factor. Take me as an example, I live in Finland and UT3 servers are almost non-existant here and most are from UK and the lowest possible ping I can have to UK servers is 70 for example but mostly it's a bit above that too (and warfare typically 85 - 100). To finnish servers I would have 15 - 30 ping, about 25 - 35 to swedish, 50 - 65 typically for german servers etc (Now talking Deathmatch 12 ~ 20 players on good servers). Now you're probably gonna say but 70 is low enough too. Sure it's low enough to play for public servers and such but if you for example play against better players or participate in say ClanBase 1on1 cups, 70 vs 40 ping for example is a matter of win or lose to me. Good player's hitratio improves almost linearly with ping amount, at least for me it does and against good players your movement cannot always make up for the ping disadvantage even if you try to suprise them with random rocket spam etc.

                      So in that matter the thread title is spot on, if you're a good player and playing competitively, lag is the REAL enemy. It's kind of sad to see people on public with 10 ping that cannot hit for ****, if I'd have 10 ping, I'd get accused for aimbot...

                      Also it's a shame UK is kind of a default server location. Germany would be a lot better choice for default server park location as it's quite in the middle of europe.

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                        #86
                        Get more server admins to run utcomp and enable lag compensation and most problems are fixed.

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                          #87
                          for some reason when I've played on servers with ping compensation it was even worse, actually unplayable. I think if you choose the right server you can get pings around 30-100 usually, at least in my area.

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