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    Nice to read there is an opportunity here in Europe, in most games I don't mind playing with a lot more ping than other people (ie ETQW) but this UT3 is another story, I can't bear the difference so easily.

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    Originally posted by mrkd View Post
    Are these "pugs" located in USA only ? I'm in Europe
    Get mIRC, connect to quakenet

    I'm usualy in #taw.ut3 and I can help you get set up with some games

    I normally use multiplay pickups

    http://pickups.multiplay.co.uk/play/

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    Originally posted by mrkd View Post
    Are these "pugs" located in USA only ? I'm in Europe
    I've been advertising USA pugs but puging in Europe is bigger. The Euro UT3 competition community is a lot larger than the USA community.

    You can fine Euro PUGs on irc.quakenet.org #UT3 #UT3.TDM #UT3.iTDM #UT3.iCTF #UT3.CTF and #UT3.zp

    Definitely better to live in Europe when it comes to competition gaming.

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    Are these "pugs" located in USA only ? I'm in Europe

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    Our competition servers are guarded by multiple passwords which are the divine names of our most elite gaming ancestors. The servers themselves are buried deep in ancient temple lined with fiber optic cable.

    You can't join our games through xfire. Only blood sacrifice and acts of faith can get you to our servers.

    (Seriously, irc.gameradius.org #ut3pugs...it's the only way.)

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    I also have one nice screenshot taken 2 days ago
    [shot]http://turtlegt.planetaclix.pt/ut3/xfire.jpg[/shot]
    1294 Xfire users. Well, since competitive guys or more into the game scene tend to have xfire, I wonder where can you find them on the UT3 server browser?

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    ur not kidding

    http://www.xfire.com/screenshots/cyanescen/

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    What ever it takes to win

    I understand some people play for fun and some people have fun with competition. When they meet it's brutal.

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    Originally posted by Bebo
    Playing in a vehicle doesn't even take half the skill it takes to win in any kind of DM.
    It's not in a vehicle. It's with vehicles. Not only in a vehicle, but also both on foot or you against a stronger opponent.

    I agree that DM requires a lot of skill, but "leet skillz" and DM>all is an urban myth. Your notion of "skill" is sense of timing, low reaction time, movement, good eye-brain-finger muscles coordenation... Wow, I can appreciate that, I'd be humilliated by any of you if I cared to accept a challenge! Then I remember that most guys are 15 to 25 years old, drink coffee or Redbull, can consistently dedicate 4 to 8hours/day to gaming, invest on the best hardware, will change ISP to get a better connection, use mice that can adjust sens with a button, overtweak the .inis, use macros. Usually most of those combined. But when some guys win, they still call it "skill". Even if those items gave them a 30% advantage

    And then some DM'ers don't like to get away from their confort zone. I've seen more demos of Deck and ShangriLa than all other maps combined. You handpick the most favourable scenario, you try to make it the center of everything and say that _this_ is skill. Hold on, I can do that too, maybe you are noob on Win32 programming or drinking beer. 1on1?

    Seriously now, other guys develop other set of skills: dealing simultaneously with 40 types of firepower and 30 ways of using it, 10 different types of movement instead of 1, you still have amps, you can increase vehicle's health, you also need coordenation, map control, DM style movement on some parts of a map, complex teamwork, need adapt to multiple types of opponents instead of 1, dodging opponents 10x faster than you, etc...

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    Originally posted by mrkd View Post
    Seinfeld is right, whenever I try to play there are lots of veterans, I have found only 4 or 5 people with basic level as me.
    Maybe you the veterans who are willing to teach things could post the server and hour where you are playing, so beginners like me have more chances to find you.
    I have spent a lot of time trying to teach people the game. If more people came on IRC and asked me to help them out I would. See beyond godlike in my sig. irc.gameradius.org #51 #lasagna #ut3pugs #ut3tdm

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    Originally posted by Benfica View Post
    Then maybe you should try WAR. First of all, it is not frag oriented, the score system is different. You will not stand out like that and will not be accused of anything. You can be extremely effective as Orb runner and get your way through 3 or 4 guys. You can prevent captures with well timed combos or whatever. Even if in the beginning don't have practice using vehicles, your movement skills are very important to dodge and kill powerful ones. Your aiming skills are extremely useful, if you are an hitscan guy, just give the Nemesis a try I could go on...
    I hate warfare and VCTF and personally I think vehicles were the worst thing to happen to UT. Playing in a vehicle doesn't even take half the skill it takes to win in any kind of DM.

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    Seinfeld is right, whenever I try to play there are lots of veterans, I have found only 4 or 5 people with basic level as me.
    Maybe you the veterans who are willing to teach things could post the server and hour where you are playing, so beginners like me have more chances to find you.

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    Originally posted by Frazzled View Post
    You can't teach intelligence. Trust me, I've trained people in multiple gametypes. The guy who REALLY wants to learn is the exception. Most people are just... I'm sorry, but they're unbelievably stupid. If you ask them "what were you thinking when": the flag was right in front of you but you didn't return it, the amp was there and you didn't take it, the countdown node had 5 seconds left and you couldn't be bothered to heal it until it hit 0.

    The answer is: they weren't thinking, and DON'T think.

    I often sit with noobs on servers and teach them the basics of movement (the biggest sign of a noob), and explain lowering their mouse sensitivity (yes, good players ACTUALLY aim), and the "thought" process behind playing (what makes you REALLY good). I essentially run an internal "radar" in my head as I play. Prediction, prediction, prediction, that's all there is to it.

    The other problem is that people frankly resent better players. There are some who go "wow that guys good, what can he show me", but the vast majority think you bot, have no life, think you're "all that", bla bla. I personally get tired of it and have no tolerance for it. Ask me to show you, I'll do it in a second, start up the ego and I'll destroy you repeatedly. Which is why about 1/2 of the people who play with me like me and the other 1/2 detest me

    Frazzle
    this is true, u see this so often, players who just constatly grab the first gun & run towards you firing, like bots, u can try to talk to them, help them out, it's like tryin to kick a puddle up a hill

    there's people who hurl abuse at me as soon as I join a server, I think it's sad but pretty funny at the same time

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    Yeah...too many good players. They pwn me so bad, i just stop all together.

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    Originally posted by Frazzled
    the countdown node had 5 seconds left and you couldn't be bothered to heal it until it hit 0.
    The answer is: they weren't thinking, and DON'T think.
    This has got nothing to do with noobs or be unable to think. At all skill levels there are always "obvious" tactics that must learned from someone else. A quick example: did you notice you can teleport from base to air node on Islander? There are teleporters at both bases, you have seen them. Well, of course that you know now. But did you notice?
    And about the countdown node itself, there are lots of guys that prefer to frag than to destroy the remaining 10%, so I guess it's even.

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