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    #16
    I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but you can take the raptor over to an island over in the water. There is a redeemer there, which is oven pivotal for either side in causing massive damage to the cores, depending on the pilot's skill.

    I pride myself in being able to hit the Fortress core dead on with just a controller.

    Lastly, the redeemer cannot be guided into the core, it hits a barrier that reflects it
    away. It should be carried in and dumb fired.
    This has never been true me.

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      #17
      I wrote this quite a while back. I recall it being the case when I wrote it, but it's true I have seen that it's not true since. Whether they changed it or I was just wrong, I'll never know .

      This guide needs some updating. If I were to write it again today it would look different. But, I'm not going to change it because there's not a large enough audience anymore. I'm glad some people are still getting use from it though.

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        #18
        Was fixed when the titan pack came out. I'm pretty sure.

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          #19
          Originally posted by bclagge View Post
          I wrote this quite a while back. I recall it being the case when I wrote it, but it's true I have seen that it's not true since. Whether they changed it or I was just wrong, I'll never know .

          This guide needs some updating. If I were to write it again today it would look different. But, I'm not going to change it because there's not a large enough audience anymore. I'm glad some people are still getting use from it though.
          Hey, this is the first time I noticed this guide. It's actually very helpful- I never noticed some of those paths into the fortress before. I have always powered my way through the front door, with less than satisfactory results. Hence, my Redeemer use instead.

          It may be possible that the PS3 version does not have a barrier, but the PC version does.

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            #20
            Some of things are missing:- u don t explain how get the tank/paladin on the base(vehicules side)
            -u don t say u can easily going in fortress base with a hammer jump
            -u don t explain u can take the deemer without a raptor
            -u don t explain u can go with the tank on the top of the mountain(fortress side)
            -u don t explain u can go on the core(fortress side)
            ect.....

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              #21
              The Redeemer problem was fixed by a patch, as azurescorch said.

              I think Islander is a problematical topic at all.
              It gives players a lot of free space (which may be good), but it creates many questions and doubts at the same time.

              Many months ago, I sent this e-mail to a Multiplay admin.
              I think it's not a crime to write it here as well since almost all veteran players know those tricks:

              War-Islander - Features or Exploits?

              I think we all know this maps gives players many possibilities.
              It is not as limited as other maps.
              So it may be difficult to say what an exploit is and what not.

              1. Redeemer can be reached without using a Raptor.
              Just get on the hoverboard and move over the water until you reach the jump pad place.
              After that you get again on the hoverboard to go to another place near the big platform.
              Now you can use the hammer jump to get on one edge.
              From the edge you can reach the Redeemer.
              [shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00275.jpg[/shot][shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00276.jpg[/shot]
              [shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00277.jpg[/shot][shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00279.jpg[/shot]
              [shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00278.jpg[/shot][shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00280.jpg[/shot]
              [shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00281.jpg[/shot]

              2. Airnode can be arrived by a backdoor way
              You can jump on a rock near the trees.
              Then you can walk or hover on it.
              At the and you can either make a hammer jump or jump with the hoverboard.
              Now you will be on the Airnode.
              Theoretically, you can reach the Airnode by many other ways, only with hammer jumps.
              (Just on the other cliffs.)
              [shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00282.jpg[/shot][shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00283.jpg[/shot]
              [shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00284.jpg[/shot][shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00285.jpg[/shot]

              3. Going to east core #1
              Near the Airnode (Sniper place) you can use the hoverboard or the hammer to get on the cliffs.
              After that you will reach the turrets.
              You could reach these places when you hang on a Raptor as well.
              [shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00286.jpg[/shot][shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00287.jpg[/shot]
              [shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00288.jpg[/shot][shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00289.jpg[/shot]

              4. Going to east core #2
              Just make a hoverboard jump to reach the big cliffs.
              From there you will have a lot of freedom.
              With a hammer jump you can easily enter the east core side.
              [shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00290.jpg[/shot][shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00291.jpg[/shot]
              [shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00292.jpg[/shot][shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00293.jpg[/shot]
              [shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00295.jpg[/shot][shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00296.jpg[/shot]

              5. Camping near and at the east core (water)
              You cannot use your hoverboard, because you will be pushed away by the gravity.
              However, you can move crouched very close to the left wall.
              You can reach the core and you can camp there.
              [shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00299.jpg[/shot][shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00300.jpg[/shot]
              [shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00301.jpg[/shot][shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00302.jpg[/shot]
              [shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00303.jpg[/shot][shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00304.jpg[/shot]
              [shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00306.jpg[/shot]

              6. Camping on the Prime Node roof
              From the place, where the armor is, you just jump and get on the hoverboard.
              From this place you could destroy the tank with C4 or annoying the orb carrier with grenades etc.
              [shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00308.jpg[/shot][shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00309.jpg[/shot]
              [shot]http://freenet-homepage.de/nightmare85/ut3/564sfds3/ScreenShot00311.jpg[/shot]

              You can decide if it can be used for the 1st post or if it is unnecessary.

              P.S: As far as I remember, the admin and me had the same opinion: #5 = exploit

              Cheers!

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                #22
                Originally posted by Pemphigus View Post
                Some of things are missing:
                The guide is designed to show you how to best win the map, not how to do every tiny thing on it. As I said in the post, I wrote it for my clan initially and only winning strategies were necessary for that.

                - u don t explain how get the tank/paladin on the base(vehicules side)
                As an example, getting the paladin or tank on the vehicle base is very entertaining, but is not the best use of any of the vehicles, not even in the top three uses - therefore an explanation on how to do it was useless when I wrote the guide.

                -u don t say u can easily going in fortress base with a hammer jump
                Actually yes I did. 2nd to last paragraph under "attacking the enemy core."

                -u don t explain u can take the deemer without a raptor
                I didn't know about this. Good luck hoverboarding out there during a match instead of trying to take back air node.

                @Nightmare

                Thank you Nightmare for providing that! I will add your information to the bottom of the first post.

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                  #23
                  awesome guide!!!

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                    #24
                    Hmmm..... I'm pretty sure I've done the redeemer thingie even after the patch.

                    I'll give it a try later and tell you guys if the barrier works or not.

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                      #25
                      bclagge, here's a video of one of the paths you showed in your first post, on how to get into the fortress:

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sbi9DA4bCM
                      Starts with a fly-thru of some of the map, the camerawork isn't exactly brilliant, and the sound quality is pretty bad, but it gets the point across.

                      Great guide, btw.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by bclagge View Post
                        The guide is designed to show you how to best win the map, not how to do every tiny thing on it.
                        kk it s a fair aim but there s some personnal tactic i ll not give
                        but i think with ur information pp ll can get fun

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                          #27
                          DAAAAAAAAAMN, thats a huge post.

                          I knew the most stuff, (as a not warfare player). But some of these tips are useless.

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                            #28
                            Thanks for the encouragement! Glad I could help clutter your mind with more useless ****.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by bclagge View Post
                              Thanks for the encouragement! Glad I could help clutter your mind with more useless ****.
                              I can't help but admire your excellent retort.

                              Anyway, I just tested the Barrier in the Fortress Core (to the East). There is none, as far as the PS3 version goes. I have both the Titan Pack and Update.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Nightmare85 View Post

                                5. Camping near and at the east core (water)
                                You cannot use your hoverboard, because you will be pushed away by the gravity.
                                However, you can move crouched very close to the left wall.
                                You can reach the core and you can camp there.

                                P.S: As far as I remember, the admin and me had the same opinion: #5 = exploit

                                Cheers!
                                I do not believe this is an exploit at all. If the mapper did not want you to do this, there would be no ledge. Snipers do the same sort of thing in a variety of places on almost every map. It's fatal if you let go of the c key. Your also an easy target when discovered.

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