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**FalseEmperor** · 03-20-2008, 10:43 AM

It sounds pretty impressive but I think I'll pass. My 8800GTX hasn't failed me yet so I'm pretty sure I'll wait til the next big card comes out. I mean I upgraded my computer with a quadcore processor and the 8800 when they became available just so I wouldn't have to upgrade again for a long time.

Still I must say the "elitist" in me feels tempted to get every top of the line thing out there but quite frankly I don't have the funds to constantly be plopping down over 500 dollars every time a new card comes out.

Thanks for the links though.

Regards,
~False

**isSo** · 03-20-2008, 11:02 AM

The 9800x2 is like two graphic cards (it combines to pcbs with one chip each=2 graphics cards) so comparing it to SLI-systems is the only way to compare that card to others.

But imho it is to expensive buying a 3870x2 from ati is like 200€ cheaper and delivers nearly the same performance.

**oldkawman1** · 03-20-2008, 01:53 PM

$600 for a card that likely does not have a driver as yet is crazy. Heck it may never have a working driver for UT3.

nvidia never fixed the 7950GX2 driver, so why would anyone believe they will for this 9800GX2? They gave up on it and screwed all those customers who bought it, even worse, the ones who bought 2 for SLI that was never supported. Take a look at the nvidia forums on this and elsewhere.

**Elohim** · 03-20-2008, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by oldkawman1 View Post

$600 for a card that likely does not have a driver as yet is crazy. Heck it may never have a working driver for UT3.

nvidia never fixed the 7950GX2 driver, so why would anyone believe they will for this 9800GX2? They gave up on it and screwed all those customers who bought it, even worse, the ones who bought 2 for SLI that was never supported. Take a look at the nvidia forums on this and elsewhere.

A WHQL driver was released for it on 3/18.

**Harmatia** · 03-20-2008, 02:17 PM

The 9800x2 is a terrible card to buy unless you're on a non-SLI motherboard and for some reason want to run a 30" monitor without upgrading.

Two 8800 GTs is a better value. Some benchmarks even have two 9600 GTs coming it at similar performance.

Also, this card will probably suffer from a lack of driver support down the line, just like the 7950GX2.

And finally-- a card with this much power is almost totally unnecessary. One 8800 GTS 512 should have no problem with any game at almost any resolution, let alone any game coming out in the next year (we're tied to the consoles now; we're not going to see many graphical improvements beyond what THEY can do.).

And its overpriced.

**Blomstervand** · 03-20-2008, 04:01 PM

sli is the suck, dont bother using it unless you had 2 graphic cards from merchant where sli was setup in it.

**akstylish** · 03-20-2008, 05:18 PM

I also heard from bittec that 9800gx2 can cause crashes due to overheating. I'd rather buy 8800gtx or 2 9600gt's.

**Cr4zy** · 03-20-2008, 05:26 PM

9800GX2 is two 8800GTS 512s shoved together. The 8800GTS 512, is basically the 8 series, meaning the 9 series is pretty much nothing new.

If only ATi gave them some **** competition then there might be a 10 series worth some money, as it stands, this is last years tech.

**natureboystyle05** · 03-20-2008, 05:30 PM

why in the world did they test crysis on medium settings with 2xAA in that one review? why not put the game on max at native rez with no AA and test it?

still, even with that performance, doesn't look like this will be the card for the truly maxed out smooth crysis experience. a little disheartening, but nice performance in UT3 at least

any word on the 9800 gtx?

**VACkillers** · 03-20-2008, 05:59 PM

Yeah you will need some very decent cooling, and the comps that are having trouble with heating at the silly ones trying to jam that huge sucka into a midi case. The sheer size of these graphics cards are absolutely massive, their almost so big, they barely fit on the motherboards, they weigh in at 5lbs each, and take up 2 slots. If your gonna have them in quad sli mode, be carefull if you ever move the machine as they have the potential to litterly bend and break the pci slots coz of their weight and size. If you have a good cooling case with decent air-flow, you will not have a problem keeping these cards from overheating.
Other sites hav benchmarked crysis on max settings, where it was up against the sli setups and ATI's 3870X2 aswell, as was able to hav full AA and AF at resolutions of 1900 and 2100 res running between 40-50FPS. The ati 3870x2 jus totally got owned at higher resolutions and jus completely failed when adding AA and AF in crysis. In an gaming industry today where more and more gamers are using wide screen monitors at 1600 and 1900 res. are becomming the norm, i think this card is very powerfull, but playing at lower res's you wont see "that" much gain in performance i dont think over 2 8800s.

**oldkawman1** · 03-20-2008, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by Elohim View Post

A WHQL driver was released for it on 3/18.

From reading the posted reviews, it's clear the initial drivers did not work, as the reviewers could not run the benchmarks without crashing. Then a new driver showed up and that worked on the benchmarks. But, cards always run good in benchmarks. The drivers are made for the benchmarks. Wait and see how they work for the real game. I can see a new thread now, "My 9800GX2 crashes when I load a map" or "Why only 40 fps with a 9800GX2"
or "9800GX2 only runs in single GPU mode?" or "My 9800GX2 is slower than a single 8800GT?"

Just wait for it. I could be wrong, but it's likely I am not.

**LuuKoO** · 03-20-2008, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by natureboystyle05 View Post

a little disheartening, but nice performance in UT3 at least

I get a good performance for UT3 with a single 9600 GT

All in all this card seems kinda strange as it is not actually anything new, they could have just launched it as the 8800X2. Plus the price is much to high compared to the 3870X2 from ATI which gives similar performance and you know has all the nescecery drivers and it actually works in crossfire.

**MTL** · 03-20-2008, 06:49 PM

$600 for a video card haha my computer cost that much to build!
ima poor ****...

**Elohim** · 03-20-2008, 07:14 PM

If I need to play at 3200x2000 then I might consider buying that card

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