Global Rank

[phalanx]

Enemy Down doesn't show custom, i prefer its layout over DFB as i can see more at a glance, but it also doesn't update as frequently

[oldkawman1]

*lol*, the top noobs ! My name was at least ranking 6000 :-)

But I don't know how to influence it exactly..

omg,..slayer is rank 2 .. stinger is good as well ! and haley..

Gaining rank requires you to #1 play often and #2 have a higher score than at least half the other human players in the match. Eventually, you will reach a point where your not really gaining rank. Then your just keeping up with everyone as everyone's skill increases over time.

Also, if you do not play enough matches, your rank will drop even though your ELO stays the same. That is because other players are passing you up.

[phalanx]

the problem the rank thing does is... you join a game late you cant get that score up and it drops your rank.

[coolcat22]

rank in ut3 sucks
with that titanteamfix ranking is not working at all

[phalanx]

Titan makes the server custom

[Frazzled]

Rank is broken. Basically the "top" players as it listed are just the regulars at UMG's warfare server. That's it. It's not "best ut3 player", its "best ut3 warfare player on UMG's server" (and it's not even that). Which demonstrates why its broken.

I know plenty of players who could wipe the floor with anyone on that list (except danimal). Even then, and dan will admit this, there are dozens of players at, around (or above? heh) his skill level that simply dont play at UMG (won't even touch warfare) and thus won't rank that high.

So in the current system, unless you're playing on UMG's warfare server, you're not going to rank very highly by and large. Broken. Wanna fix that in your patchez epic?

Frazzle

[Pop!]

rank in ut3 sucks
with that titanteamfix ranking is not working at all

Titan team fix is a mutator. As I said in this thread earlier, ANY mutator added to any server then makes it a custom server, so you then need to be looking at your custom stats instead of pure stats.
Hence Enemy Down being of limited use now that so many servers are essentially custom. They don't show custom stats. Thats why DFB is better here, as you can view both. Same with in-game stats.

Pop!

[UnrealGrrl]

I know plenty of players who could wipe the floor with anyone on that list (except danimal). Even then, and dan will admit this, there are dozens of players at, around (or above? heh) his skill level that simply dont play at UMG (won't even touch warfare) and thus won't rank that high.

Frazzle

don't diss the danimal or ya haveta answer to me!

[oldkawman1]

Rank is broken. Basically the "top" players as it listed are just the regulars at UMG's warfare server. That's it. It's not "best ut3 player", its "best ut3 warfare player on UMG's server" (and it's not even that). Which demonstrates why its broken.

I know plenty of players who could wipe the floor with anyone on that list (except danimal). Even then, and dan will admit this, there are dozens of players at, around (or above? heh) his skill level that simply dont play at UMG (won't even touch warfare) and thus won't rank that high.

So in the current system, unless you're playing on UMG's warfare server, you're not going to rank very highly by and large. Broken. Wanna fix that in your patchez epic?

Frazzle

If it all depended on the UMG server my rank would be much higher than it is currently. The UMG is just the busiest warfare pure server.. There are other pure servers that count stats as well, they are just not as busy.

When you say skill, you totally ignore all but DM skill. You need to specify that when you say skill, say pure DM skill instead. So, I think what you really want are skill ranks and rating per game type. I think that is a good idea and should be implemented.

Obviously, the required skills have some differences between the game types. But, it's silly to think the only skill that should count is pure DM skill, that's just a different flavor of the current system.

Currently, there is only a single ranking or rating system. Since UT3 has vehicles and game types besides DM, if your unskilled in the usage of vehicles or playing the other game types, then your rank reflects that. I am not saying that is how it should be, only that is how it is currently. You can say the same thing about the custom stats. All the top players on the custom stats also play WARfare, but on custom servers.

[coolcat22]

Titan team fix is a mutator. As I said in this thread earlier, ANY mutator added to any server then makes it a custom server, so you then need to be looking at your custom stats instead of pure stats.
Hence Enemy Down being of limited use now that so many servers are essentially custom. They don't show custom stats. Thats why DFB is better here, as you can view both. Same with in-game stats.

Pop!

but what too do when i have no stat or ranking at all i dont care at a pure server costumstat i dont no if i have that gone look at it and i dont have costum stat too lol

and dfb is better with stat its work better then the epic stat

[Frazzled]

Hah Grrl, I'm not dissing him, I know Dan in real life. He trained *me*. The point is theres dozens of players out there at about the same skill level who won't remotely rank under the current system.

And Bobba, look at that list. That is just a player list of people who play on UMG with like 1 or 2 people otherwise. It reads exactly like a scoreboard of players on UMG.

There's a reason for it, which is my point. UT3 has decided that some warfare players get high ELO ratings under its flawed system (and b/c its the most active remaining gametype), thus if you play on there like dan does and kill those people repeatedly, you also get a high ELO rating. Dan before playing warfare would rank anywhere from 50-200. He plays on UMG and now ranks #1. He's the same Dan as before, playing people actually not as good as who he played before.

Finally, no Bobba, I'm not talking about "dm skill". I actually had CTF players in mind. Good CTF players have good fragging skills but also the sort of "strategic" thinking that is required for warfare. Flag runs = orb runs. Node defense = flag defense. Support = support. Pure DM players sometimes can't translate their pure fragging skills into the "strategic" elements required in CTF/Objective-based game types.

There is a reason players like dan, or "segomo" as you know him (we know him as Nova) translate well to warfare. Most higher level CTF players would. My point is simply that there are dozens of other people exactly like dan, myself, segomo and others out there. You only see us since we made the trip over to warfare. They won't rank for @#$% unless they play over there.

Frazzle

[Infra`]

Woah I was 97.8% sure that Frazzle was Danimal...

[Frazzled]

Woah I was 97.8% sure that Frazzle was Danimal...

Haha, I love that you attributed a % to your certainty and left room for doubt. It's a long standing rumor we've been having fun with, we both deny it, but to the extent anyone wants to believe it - go for it?

I think Dan mentioned that someone in pub clan (not you?) said he started the theory based on the idea of "people coming from out of nowhere and knowing how to play so well". Which is kinda my point. There's lots of people that know how to play the game very, very well (Dan's been playing competitive UT since 99) that most pub players don't know and wouldn't rank well, despite being great players.

So back on topic, system = broke. It's pretty well known though, no one really cares but a few nubs. I'll go message dan to make a post declaring himself the #1 player in all of UT3 and challenge ps3 players... lol.

Frazzle

[JohnDoe641]

Rank is broken. Basically the "top" players as it listed are just the regulars at UMG's warfare server. That's it. It's not "best ut3 player", its "best ut3 warfare player on UMG's server" (and it's not even that). Which demonstrates why its broken.

I know plenty of players who could wipe the floor with anyone on that list (except danimal). Even then, and dan will admit this, there are dozens of players at, around (or above? heh) his skill level that simply dont play at UMG (won't even touch warfare) and thus won't rank that high.

So in the current system, unless you're playing on UMG's warfare server, you're not going to rank very highly by and large. Broken. Wanna fix that in your patchez epic?

Frazzle

I've never played on the umg warfare (or really ever touch warfare at all) server just the DM/TDM ones and my rank was about 38 or so at one point. It's now up to 66 but I haven't played on UMG in weeks. I kind of got bored of it and the people who thought that using skill was cheating got a bit tiring as well. Now I just stick to pugs which luckily aren't ranked. :c

[Infra`]

Haha, I love that you attributed a % to your certainty and left room for doubt. It's a long standing rumor we've been having fun with, we both deny it, but to the extent anyone wants to believe it - go for it?

I think Dan mentioned that someone in pub clan (not you?) said he started the theory based on the idea of "people coming from out of nowhere and knowing how to play so well". Which is kinda my point. There's lots of people that know how to play the game very, very well (Dan's been playing competitive UT since 99) that most pub players don't know and wouldn't rank well, despite being great players.

So back on topic, system = broke. It's pretty well known though, no one really cares but a few nubs. I'll go message dan to make a post declaring himself the #1 player in all of UT3 and challenge ps3 players... lol.

Frazzle

Ah ok Im in puB and you can ask Dan, I'm sure he has some respect for me.