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    I mostly have weird mouse lag that makes it so I have to turn details to 1/1.

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    Well, enough is a matter of opinion. For some people 30 is enough, who are you to tell them they are fools? I personally prefer as much as I can get which is 60 based on my monitor. But I can afford and have the interest in keeping my computer up to date. Not everyone cares to do.

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    Allthough I love the game and have a lot of fun with it I must say the optimization is horrible. I got a high end rig and can barely keep the fps above 60 on all maps, tweaking it to the max I can cap it at 80fps (with some dips in bad maps). Epic said that the game was going to still be a bench mark a year into the future and todays high end rigs is supposed to struggle on highest settings. I can buy that, but the total failure is that mid range systems get horrible frame rates on settings that makes the game look worse then 2k4 ever did. Can something that looks ugly and run poorly be anything else then badly optimized?

    Some here make 60 fps sound like it's enough. I could squeese 3 times more frames per second out of a mid range rig back in -04 when ut2004 was released. 80 fps is the comfort zone for most people with all senses intact, and if you want to be competitive you should keep it between 80 to 120fps. It has been discussed and proved so many times that those "30 fps is enough don't pretend to be pr0 lol"-sayers automatically look like fools.

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    Originally posted by Devil_Spawn View Post
    wow, you really suck at sniping
    LOL, I think Zasz can hold his own pretty well.

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    Originally posted by Zasz View Post
    My refresh rate is 85. I can't even run my monitor at 60, it hurts my eyes too much. Having a high framerate isn't just important for a smooth picture, it's important for aiming the mouse as well due to reasons I don't fully remember :P
    Blah, I miss my CRT.

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    Originally posted by bclagge View Post
    Just curious Zasz, what's the refresh rate of your monitor? Mine is 60hz, which means my monitor updates 60 times a second. That means any frames over 60 are discarded. Since I get more than 60 fps, I've turned on Vsync thus giving me a smoother and clearer picture. In this case 60 > 90.
    My refresh rate is 85. I can't even run my monitor at 60, it hurts my eyes too much. Having a high framerate isn't just important for a smooth picture, it's important for aiming the mouse as well due to reasons I don't fully remember :P

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    When your skill gets to a certain level, frame rates start to become a big factor between scoring a kill or not. When you don't play at a pro level, 40-60 fps may seem like enough, but it isn't. Don't mean to sound arrogant, that's just the facts jack.

    Equally important is ping and playing on a really good server running at a high tickrate.

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    Originally posted by Harmatia View Post
    I think having a stable framerate is more important than having a high-average framerate.... I'd rather have a 30 FPS constant framerate than 20-50, even if it averaged at forty.

    That being said, 60 FPS is ideal. Anything higher would be great, but useless on most monitors refresh rates. I got quite used to 85 FPS when I had my old CRT =(

    You really can't be as precise or accurate with lower framerates... and frankly, if you can't tell the difference... it's because you aren't good enough at the game yet for it to matter. That's why so many pro-gamers use the lowest graphics settings to get high FPS. It's certainly not because they don't know what they're doing.
    I agree 100%.

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    I think having a stable framerate is more important than having a high-average framerate.... I'd rather have a 30 FPS constant framerate than 20-50, even if it averaged at forty.

    That being said, 60 FPS is ideal. Anything higher would be great, but useless on most monitors refresh rates. I got quite used to 85 FPS when I had my old CRT =(

    You really can't be as precise or accurate with lower framerates... and frankly, if you can't tell the difference... it's because you aren't good enough at the game yet for it to matter. That's why so many pro-gamers use the lowest graphics settings to get high FPS. It's certainly not because they don't know what they're doing.

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    A lot of people have sub par machines that don't get ridiculous fps. Not everyone wants to invest a fortune into a computer. But low frame rates and bad ping can be adapted to without much difficulty. You don't need high fps to be good, or more importantly to have fun. On topic I think the game is well optimized for a next gen game(-DX10).

    Originally posted by Zasz View Post
    Going from 40 fps to 100 fps is the difference between being able to hit 1 out of 10 sniper shots and 5 out of 10 sniper shots for me. Maybe you can determine which one is better.
    Just curious Zasz, what's the refresh rate of your monitor? Mine is 60hz, which means my monitor updates 60 times a second. That means any frames over 60 are discarded. Since I get more than 60 fps, I've turned on Vsync thus giving me a smoother and clearer picture. In this case 60 > 90.

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    i dunno, the game runs pretty poor on lower end cpus, however not as bad on lower end gpus

    Going from 40 fps to 100 fps is the difference between being able to hit 1 out of 10 sniper shots and 5 out of 10 sniper shots for me. Maybe you can determine which one is better.
    wow, you really suck at sniping

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    30fps is not necessarily enough, it depends on quite some factors, its not that simple, imo. personally, i prefer using smoothframerate and vsync to ensure a fluid feeling rather than have 200+ FPS, but 30 might be too risky

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    ya getting 60 fps or more is just ridiculous imo. I'm very happy as long as the frame rate never drops below 30.

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    Originally posted by Sulin View Post
    Each one of the guys in the thread have a MUCH better system than you,so Im not sure where you get off even telling these guys what they should or shoudnt talk about
    (or have you updated scince this post http://utforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=596714 ?)

    In the end the thread is really about how happy these guys are with how UT3 plays on THEIR systems and I see no problem with that or a need to try to belittle them
    The thread title is "The optimization is really good". He was disputing that. Whether the optimization of the engine is good or not does not depend at what system a couple of guys have.

    I would say the optimization is not very good, because if someone builds exactly identical levels in 2k4 and UT3, the 2k4 level would have like 2-3 times the framerate.

    Originally posted by Masklin View Post
    EDIT: And I don't like these people claiming they need this and that high framerate to game comfortably. Arrogance. *Buhu my eyes are so pro I need so much fps lolol 'else I can't play :<*
    Going from 40 fps to 100 fps is the difference between being able to hit 1 out of 10 sniper shots and 5 out of 10 sniper shots for me. Maybe you can determine which one is better.

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    Originally posted by Masklin View Post
    I don't like these people claiming they need this and that high framerate to game comfortably. Arrogance. *Buhu my eyes are so pro I need so much fps lolol 'else I can't play :<*
    LOL!
    +1

    I agree. Also, I don't like thread jumpers that hop from one thread to another and post "can u cook 4 ps3???!!!1111!1!one".

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