What is wrong EPIC?!

[SebastianO]

UT3 sales number are bad and there´s probably many reasons why. We actually don´t know how much EPIC are doing if they are working with a new patch, they should communicate better with their fans. We want to know the status of the new patch for example
.
I have some questions that hopefully will make EPIC start to fix some things!

Why have you done UT3 so graphics-mod/tweak unfriendly? Someone over there at EPIC, especially Mark Rein should pay more attention to the PC-gamers. The graphics in UT3 is good, far from un-paralled though, I mean Crysis and many other PC-games totally crushes UT3 graphically. The graphics in UT3 rely much more on artwork than on technology, which is a shame for a PC-game.
A forum member in here wrote this:

All the textures are 2048x2048(including my own custom ones) and the game still renders them low res , probably for performance standards. But I think there should be a mut that allows us with strong pcs to see Epic's work and OUR work at full detail instead of pixelated messes with no specular or cubemaps.

If that´s true then why havn´t you let the texture have their original size on the PC-version!? Because it won´t work on older computers and on the PS3? Please re-think, make it an option! An option that gamers with a good computer can play with enabled.

I thought UT3 would have many 2048x textures and only few blurry, unfortunately I was wrong. I thought the characters would look the same as the bullshots, unfortunately I was wrong again. If UT3 represents an advanced game using UnrealEngine3 then UnrealEngine3 isn´t impressive in my opinion.
If UT3 doesn´t represent an advanced game game using UnrealEngine3 then why have you at EPIC choosen to embarasse your Engine like that?
Here are some links to bullshots, this is how I wanted the game to look but EPIC just couldn´t let the PC-version look better than the PS3 version?
http://media.pc.ign.com/media/746/74...g_4283841.html
http://media.pc.ign.com/media/746/74...g_3859255.html
http://media.pc.ign.com/media/746/74...g_3576825.html
http://media.pc.ign.com/media/746/74...g_3576829.html
http://media.pc.ign.com/media/746/74...g_4858423.html
http://media.pc.ign.com/media/746/74...g_4858419.html
http://media.pc.ign.com/media/746/74...g_4858415.html

There´s so many graphics things that are so un-impressive in UT3 that the graphics in UT3 is almost a shame in comparasion with the bullshots. All this time EPIC have had to develope the game and this is what we PC-gamers get, I mean they have done many UT-games before and the UT-games always had the best textures and graphics when they came out, UT3 hasn´t.

So it would have been okey if we could tweak up the graphics, add textures with higher resolution, but NO! We can´t do that, because EPIC doesn´t want us to. All files must be "cooked" . That "cooking" system doesn´t allow us to tweak the game because it downgrades the quality of the textures and many other things. Why they have done this, I don´t know, maybe because they want the PC-version and the PS3-version to look about the same, or maybe because they want all mods and tweaks the PC has to be compatible on the PS3 aswell?
They have even done script to make effects like motionblur un-avaiable on the PC, they have ectually wasted time on such things.
I feel like EPIC have choosen to do this game for PS3 and then just done a fast PC-version.

EPIC can still fix the game by taking away that "cooking" system and everything else that limits all the graphics tweakers and modders from making this game look like PC next-gen graphics.

There´s a reason why UT3 looks almost the same on PC and PS3, sabotage or lazyness and what´s even worse is that they wont let us fix it with tweaks and mods.
It´s almost fair that UT3 has sold so bad, EPIC can blame their selves for that.

EPIC please don´t ignore instead make the game better and I can almost promise you that UT3 will sell much better than it does now.

Good luck!

[Chromatik]

I thought the characters would look the same as the bullshots

EPIC can still save the game

This game doesn't need to be "saved". But it does need to be added to and tweaked to be better. Patches, Bonus Packs and Community are the means of this happening. That said this thread probably will be closed because there are many others like it. Epic knows what they need to do. They just aren't communicating it to us since they will be yelled at and probed for more info. If they say something and either don't do it, or don't implement it like people would like to see (you can't please everyone) they will see even more fallout. It's lose-lose. better to keep quiet and work on it behind the scenes.

Whats a bullshot?

[Arkaine]

Whats a bullshot?

I'm guessing it's a screenshot thats b*llsh*t?
Just like that series that invaded my liviing room
from the states.

[SebastianO]

This game doesn't need to be "saved"...................Whats a bullshot?

I agree, I changed "save" to "fix".
A bullshots is a screenshot of the game that has better graphics than the final product, we can´t know that the screenshots are bullshots until the game is out, some pre-orders the game and therefore it can be used for marketing, not so nice to the gamers.

[Nietzsche]

dead game tbh \o/

[Bloody Roots]

PC sales figures for UT3 suggest that Epic is experiencing something like a boycott/rebellion from the PC players.

[D2F[Leo]]

Yay, we need more UT3 sales threads! o/\o

[SebastianO]

Yay, we need more UT3 sales threads! o/\o

This thread isn´t about the sales, it´s about the game.

[R.Flagg]

Yay, we need more UT3 sales threads! o/\o

Actually, it's about a technical issue, and it's a perfectly valid point to raise. I'd like to hear some more talk on it myself. Are these things true? If so what can be done about it? Is there something modders should know?

And so on.

[masterp0]

[QUOTE= The graphics in UT3 rely much more on artwork than on technology, which is a shame for a PC-game.
[/QUOTE]


disagree. infact i think the artwork of this game is one of the reasons this game is not completely dead and there is hope of it being patched and made more popular. some people need to just realize that maybe this game just isn't for them and move on.

[SebastianO]

disagree. infact i think the artwork of this game is one of the reasons this game is not completely dead and there is hope of it being patched and made more popular. some people need to just realize that maybe this game just isn't for them and move on.

Can´t agree.

[D2F[Leo]]

This thread isn´t about the sales, it´s about the game.

I know, but mentioning "sales" in your first sentence isn't exactly the best way to create a long-lasting thread.

And btw: Lack of graphic modding possibilities isn't really a main issue that keeps players away from the game, imo. Personally I even don't give a **** about graphics as long as I get my solid 50 fps at least. Gameplay > Graphics.

[xtremexp]

i think when the UT3 game was released it was like a beta game. Perhaps Epic was busy with gears of wars? I would have prefered to wait 1 month more and get a 99% free bug game. 1 month later, we had first patch, most of bugs are gone now but still there are remaining ones and missing features particularly as for gameserver administrators: no webadmin,file download not working properly (there is not point in fixing redirection of files if people always have to reconnect because of "URL" error, people are lazy they just want to join server, switch and if it's ok then they go on playing or else they don't try to see where the problem come fron ...).
Globally the game is good, the only thing i will never understand is why they released UT3 with all these years of developments and with the bugs provided in it.Of course the bugs are not quite important since patch 1.1 but still when buying a new game i expect a finished product not a beta game... they should have released it 2 months after i think.
And as concerning graphics, yes of course it is not as good as Crysis, but the thing to wonder is: do eveybody has a nvidia 8800Gt + in his computer,... don't think so... that's why UT3 doesn't need a high range PC and this is good!

[masterp0]

Can´t agree.

i have seen so many games that have great graphics that are absolutely garbage and are almost unplayable. just about any old school gamer will tell you that graphics don't make a game great. UT3 still has a ways to go but the artwork is not the problem. if you want better graphics, then please go find some other game with better graphics. noone is forcing you to play this game, honestly.

[SebastianO]

............., but the thing to wonder is: do eveybody has a nvidia 8800Gt + in his computer,... don't think so... that's why UT3 doesn't need a high range PC and this is good!

Yes, but that shouldn´t stop EPIC from caring about those with a 8800GT, they should have added better graphics for those with better computers.