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    #16
    Originally posted by sincreator View Post
    Microsoft should just add dx10 via update/upgrade to xp. I don't know if its possible or not though. Maybe just for games or sumthin. Scrap vista all together.
    Not possible,say microshaft.
    as dx10 is build around vista.

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      #17
      Originally posted by MajikMyst View Post
      Will? Obviously your not perfect either! Care to comment on the topic?
      I was never meant to be anything but what I am, so I must be perfect.

      There's nothing to comment on. It either performs better or worse, we don't know yet.

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        #18
        I bet that its definitly possible, but then no one would buy vista. I've read around the web that some people are actually trying to do it. Hopefully someone makes it happen.

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          #19
          I should of said this before. Why not have an install version of dx10 for xp? I mean if your running a game that uses dx10 features then it would allow it when needed, but when your doing normal stuff revert to dx9 or just disable the dx10 stuff. I've read in a few places that there is a way in crysis to get the very high settings in xp for the dx10 features. I dont know if this works or not i've personally never tried it.

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            #20
            Microsoft is a good business, and if Service Pack 3 is anything like Service Pack 2 then it will be great.

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              #21
              So far beta/RC1 SP3 has been crashing my game. I just did a format for kicks and installed SP3, the game+patch, updated drivers and so on and I've crashed 3 times. I read the log and it's nothing but gibberish to me. First time it says cannot render Dark Walker body, this one says something about blood spray and blah blah.

              Oh well, maybe final SP3 will work out better.

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                #22
                1st: you can easily upgrade your performance without SP3, tweak your system. theres about 16,000 guides on google that show you what the BS in the background is and also let you decide which things you need and dont. simple check - alt-ctrl-del, click processes, if you are gaming and you have more than 25 in windows xp sp2 including an antivirus then you have too much running. now for you smart guys who go "well i only have 18 processes running!" click Performance and how many THREADS are you running? you want to aim for about 500 or lower, 450 is ideal.

                2nd, dx10 is an API, not just an upgrade to dx9 but a whole new sha-bang. alky projects are making a semi dx10 for xp, it works to an extent as in enabling godrays, but it doesnt enable hdr antialiasing, so far anyways. the truth of this matter is dx9 with a dx10 hack will never run as efficient as true dx10. microsoft already stated no dx10 for xp, well heres a tip for you guys: it doesnt do anything special! dx9 vs dx10... gears of war / ut3 i see NO difference non FSAA, and FSAA you only notice the flaws around HDR lighting. it also runs faster. question: can your system run dx10 AND fsaa? if not dont beg so much for dx10, you arent missing out on anything except extra lag which you would just whine more about.

                and if anyone thinks about posting about "Crysis", and how it shows dx10 blah blah... please dont, just google it instead.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by T@F View Post
                  Not possible,say microshaft.
                  as dx10 is build around vista.
                  DirectX is only a API. It isnt connected to Vista that way. It will work in Windows XP without big changes. It is only marketing. But Vista is a bad choice for gamer: no DirectSound hardware layer, and its much slower in games. I want Vista with performance of WinME (WinME was really fast, but destroys itself very fast )

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by MajikMyst View Post
                    Ingorance is bliss I see! Microsoft will force problems on us? Dang, you are an idiot! Why don't you go out and get mac! Nobody is forcing you to do anything! Or better yet, write a bug free operating system and shut up! Is Epic forcing the problems on us because UT3 has bugs and needs patches?

                    Man is not perfect so his software will not be perfect! Unless the two of you are perfect or can do better, all you are doing is displaying your ignorance and arrogance.

                    It would be interesting to see if SP3 does come with some performance enhancement. To bad we can't patch the two of you, you both are in need of an intelligence patch.
                    Get a grip, dude. Microsoft's a monopoly, and they do what they please as a result of too little market pressure. It's fair game to bash them. Too many of us use Microsoft Windows because we have to, not because we want to. UT3, case in point. You can't buy the game for any other OS at the moment.

                    And no, I'm not a Mac fan (although I can see why some people are). I have two Linux boxes, and I also regularly run open source software applications on Windows. I've also worked with open source projects. Does that count?

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                      #25
                      when is SP3 coming out?

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by sincreator View Post
                        I should of said this before. Why not have an install version of dx10 for xp? I mean if your running a game that uses dx10 features then it would allow it when needed, but when your doing normal stuff revert to dx9 or just disable the dx10 stuff. I've read in a few places that there is a way in crysis to get the very high settings in xp for the dx10 features. I dont know if this works or not i've personally never tried it.
                        It does work. You go into the Crysis folder, then the Game folder, then the config folder, and open the file highspec.cfg in notepad. Change the line:

                        sys_spec_Full = 3

                        to

                        sys_spec_Full = 4

                        and then save. Load up the game, go into video options, and select the option that says "Change All Settings To" and select High. Then apply the settings, and there you go. All Very High settings are now enabled in the game using DX10.

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                          #27
                          crysis with the "very high" hack is a very noticeable difference - heres a sshot in xp with dx10 hack.

                          http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...n/d0e32cb0.jpg

                          im not putting it in shot format because it isnt a ut3 pic, you can click it - notice the definition of the texture? its the "very high" texture with higher res, what you might not notice is the water has a rainbow effect on the light - thats my dx10 for winxp (from alky projects).

                          http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...n/5fd2c1f4.jpg

                          a good pic of godrays. (again dx10 for xp)

                          http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...n/baf63da0.jpg
                          just a pic i like :-D

                          anyways you can find your own dx9 pics with "high" settings if you want, im not posting any :-D


                          i posted a buttload of them here ps: link to different forum related to a clan in a different game, your choice if you want to go there.

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                            #28
                            Those are not "DX10" hacks, as they are doable in DX9, but Crytek put an artificial cap on the DX9 settings.

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                              #29
                              i wasnt referring to crysis as the dx10 hack, i was referring to alky projects dx10 for winxp. its a directx file you have to install and it gives some dx10 stuff.

                              thats why i said "very high" hack as well as dx10 hack.

                              rather or not you have very high settings, you wont have godrays nor water shimmers.
                              ok enough about crysis this is a ut3 forum o.0

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Rajinn View Post
                                1st: you can easily upgrade your performance without SP3, tweak your system. theres about 16,000 guides on google that show you what the BS in the background is and also let you decide which things you need and dont. simple check - alt-ctrl-del, click processes, if you are gaming and you have more than 25 in windows xp sp2 including an antivirus then you have too much running. now for you smart guys who go "well i only have 18 processes running!" click Performance and how many THREADS are you running? you want to aim for about 500 or lower, 450 is ideal.
                                I have been building and troubleshooting computers since 1997. I think I know how to optimize XP as I use it for far more important tasks than running some silly game, such as audio and video production. If you really want to know, I have 370 threads running over 28 processes at the moment, which I guess makes me uber-leet by your standards.

                                If SP3 turns out to be stable and gives an added performance increase over what I have now, I'd be pretty dumb not to use it. So I am not sure what you're going on about.

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