Just my opinion about ut3

[Jocked]

I just realized that derailing from this particular thread might not be so bad.

Democracy doesn't have to be 100% capitalistic market economy.
Some day I'll create my own society where everything non-physical is donationware, and where people actually donate. I might have to pull some gene modding for that to happen
But some day!

[Obscurite]

hit scan that weapons and spam weapons this, screw it all i say!!

Now where did I put my impact hammer...

[bclagge]

Lol, agreed

My final thought: zool3r is a tool.

Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those others that have been tried.
-Winston Churchill

[Killerus]

worst thread ever

[Jocked]

Epic is a business, therefore that's the only perspective it's going to have in a capitalist society. Morally speaking, there is no real right or wrong here. It's right for Epic, and I guess you're saying it's wrong for you.

Yes, that's pretty much it, Epic doesn't have any moral obligations as a buisness, I understand that, they're out to make money. But I woun't applaud everything they do just because it made them money, that would just be downright moronic from a consumer perspective.
Please understand also that I do not fully agree with the capitalistic system.
Whatever, we're derailing.

[Reise]

As for "spam" being a noob's tactic, I don't think you could be more wrong. There's a decent level of skill involved with making good kills with the flak and rockets. Not everyone can lead shots, and those who can are **** good at it. You need a good sense of prediction to do well with the "spam" weapons as opposed to the hitscan point-and-click weapons. But if you're good with leading/prediction you can also be a **** good shock rifler.

[bclagge]

Epic is a business, therefore that's the only perspective it's going to have in a capitalist society. Morally speaking, there is no real right or wrong here. It's right for Epic, and I guess you're saying it's wrong for you.

[Jocked]

I think Epic cares. I care too, because if they don't make money, they won't stay in business. Perhaps one day when you're a philanthropist, you can create a NPO to make PC games dedicated strictly to quality. Until then, take your medicine.

I realize it makes all the sense in the world from a business perspective, but how much money someone makes from an action doesn't make it any more right, perhaps more understandable, but not more right. At least not to me.

[UndeadRoadkill]

Very rarely have I ever seen someone who uses the word "noob" in seriousness and wasn't totally full of it.

[bclagge]

I think Epic cares. I care too, because if they don't make money, they won't stay in business. Perhaps one day when you're a philanthropist, you can create a NPO to make PC games dedicated strictly to quality. Until then, take your medicine.

[Jocked]

Nothing wrong with Epic maximizing its profits.

At the cost of a good game? Who cares how much $$$ Epic makes as long as they produce good games and can continue to do so?

I do, however, not agree at all with the OP.

[Vir]

Nothing wrong with Epic maximizing its profits.

[U-Turn]

Dang you hate N00bs, huh?

[bclagge]

1. Shock rifle; 2k4 shock was build for rly skilled gamers, this new ut3 shock loooks like a noob spaming weapon, bye bye aiming skills.

Shock rifle works under the same concept now as then: hitscan. It is no more susceptible to spamming than it was in the past (I think you and I disagree on whether spam is an acceptable tactic, I do) Really skilled? If you can point an click you can be successful with a hitscan weapon.

2. Horrible secondary flack fire, balls and more spam balls now, u cant aim that...

Been playing the demo much? They fixed that (to a degree) in the full version.

Edit: I can envision you in a war somewhere, bleeding out your gut, and saying "Doesn't count, you weren't aiming at me. That was spam, you noob. Now can you hand me my entrails?"

3. No shield gun= no tactical game,,,, no shield jumps (this is the state of the art for the old CTF art!!!), and 0 deffense agains noob spam... bad for 1 vs 1, in my opinion the worst against 1 vs 1 and CTF.
Sry but the weapons r overpowered, we need a **** shield here.

Tactics are only possible with a shield gun? Your defense against spam is the shoot the spammer.

5. terrible, horrible UI... this is more a console game than a pc game... i hate that.

Agreed.

[3leggedFreak]

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Nah seriously, your opinion doesn't count.