I am unhappy with the UI

[DireWolf]

Finally they have said about the UI going to be changed, can we please close all these threads, there getting annoying to see.
Lets all complain about the stinger being overpowered now hopefully that will be the next question they answer

[Sharpfish]

What you fail to realise is that many of us complain because we care. People who don't complain don't give a **** and wouldn't care if epic went under tommorow so long as they can get a game from 'somewhere'.

And i'm under no illusion that Epic would cease to exist if a minority of PC gamers decided not to buy the game.

Of course it's just business.

The same as politics are just politics, let's just never give feedback on any forum again about a game (good or bad) and let them second guess their market. The whole reason UT3 is as good as it is (in the gameplay) is because of the mass of negative feedback about the previous games. Same goes for the name, no-one liked that stupid yearly name since day one.

I'm not saying they changed it because of us 'whiners' but without that written somewhere it would be harder for them to judge the reception to changes outside of their own playtesters and magazine reviews.

However, I do agree that complaining isn't getting us anywhere (just like the Bioshock BS) and for example Widescreen users will still get a compromised experience (try chopping an inch off top and bottom of a 4:3 user and see how they like it).. just one example of the 'small' but very important issues that us 'complainers' want to see fixed to elevate UT3 up to 100% greatness and not merely 80% or whatever.

Ten years of Unreal playing makes me care, call it sad, tell me to grow up, I don't care, I'm right in my convictions and nothing you or epic will say can change my mind.

[ZDragon]

Have also never heard of anyone who likest hose new menus. This **** "next" clicking is just going on my nerves. It was all easy and nice in UT2004, but this is a gigantic step back. Felt like the Windows XP control panel when you entered it the first time and got this sucky categorization, instead of a nice and normal list of stuff. There however it took one click to set it back to the "original" control panel - in UT3 it just doesn't seem possible

As a side note, did you notice that most issues that people are having are with the UI? Not just that you can control the menus in a sucky way, also stuff like not being able to individually chose the level of detail for every single setting, only being able to configure weaponthrow with INI editing, no copy/paste in the console etc.pp.
This of course means that the game itself mostly just ROCKS. But it also means that just with really few work, you could make it OWN THE WORLD. Please do it!


Really hope you don't let us down here Epic and release a cool patch that just gives us these features...

[rythem]

Posted by WarTourist

Q: I am unhappy with the UI.

A: We're aware that the UI isn't perfect. We're working on numerous improvements and additions to the user interface that will be made available in future updates to UT3.



so, considering all the bashing they got, I guess it's good to see they acknowledge it, and they are working on it. Thats all I needed to see. <---happy fragger.

[Sharpfish]

Finally they have said about the UI going to be changed, can we please close all these threads, there getting annoying to see.
Lets all complain about the stinger being overpowered now hopefully that will be the next question they answer

Link please... I will gladly stop talking **** and start celebrating the release of UT3 is there is evidence of acknowledging such things. Though I wont' rest until widescreen is Hor+ as it should be.

EDIT > I see it above. At last. Why they didn't post that around the beta time I don't know. So now just a couple of small issues left and we are good to go (buy)

[CaptainZap]

Q: I am unhappy with the UI.
A: We're aware that the UI isn't perfect. We're working on numerous improvements and additions to the user interface that will be made available in future updates to UT3.

This is from WarTourist's sticky of FAQ's. Me feels better now.

[UnrealGrrl]

Q: I am unhappy with the UI.
A: We're aware that the UI isn't perfect. We're working on numerous improvements and additions to the user interface that will be made available in future updates to UT3.

This is from WarTourist's sticky of FAQ's. Me feels better now.

Finally they have said about the UI going to be changed, can we please close all these threads, there getting annoying to see.
Lets all complain about the stinger being overpowered now hopefully that will be the next question they answer

Thank you WarTourist for (Finally) posting about the UI and that it is being updated. Thank you Epic!

At some point, maybe an idea of what we will or wont get would be nice we love you and our UI yaknow

now, is it just me or did the Beta Demo UI Feedback thread disappear?! (anyone have it cached?)

[NakhtiUT3]

and THIS is why Epic should have waited "UNTIL ITS DONE" instead of to get it out for Black Friday...

enough reviews and forum posts around the web like this will effectively kill the game no matter how good it looks. and us hard core fans will be left with patches, mods and empty servers faster than ut2004 cleared out...

i keep hoping ill see something that offers hope when new news posts or threads about the game appear, but its always "looks great, plays well, too many bugs and missing features". and the more posts we see on the full release, the more missing features and steps backward become revealed.
Epic & Midway probably figure theyll recover lost pc sales with console sales, but this could have been avoided if it really was "done".

and i hate being depressed and neg about this...

Now you are not being fair at all my old teammate ... People were screaming at the top of their lungs for this game to be released this year and this place would really have been a madhouse if they would have said that. It seems they can't win and I have to be honest ... if I were them at this point I wouldn't care about these types of threads and complaints either. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't so I am kind of on their side from a business perspective.

Ship the game earlier than we wanted and let people find out the hard way why you don't bug a company to death about pushing a release out the door earlier than the company really wants to, at the same time we shut up people who couldn't wait any longer for the game and get to make some money because for all their complaining 90% of the folks on these forums will be getting the game ... that is a fact. There is no way people are not going to get this game because of some UI issues ... people want to play not just mess with options and this game does play well and looks good doing it. I for one am glad they are shipping it early.

Also many of the things the TC originally said have been proven to be false and the other things can be addressed later with patches as has always been the UT way (why are people so surprised this time around ). So yeah I don't have the same pessimistic outlook for this game as you ... I don't think PC sales will be that greatly affected and I still see the game getting 9.0s across the board ... that will not turn people away. Again the vast majority of people want to PLAY the game not just tamper with some options. Anyway that is my stance and I am sticking by it ... I would bet anyone on these forums my two EVGA 8800GTs that for the month of December this game will top the PC games sales charts (provided by NPD of course).

Also you folks fail to realize that now they are in the same league as the BIG BIG boys, EA, MS, Sony, Activision, Nintendo, ... yes Epic is now a major major player in the gaming industry and as such there is much greater pressure on them from their partners like Sony and MS who they have products for their consoles. Things will never be like they were before because this is not the same predominantly PC company that existed just three years ago.

Oh and again don't forget about all the modders waiting to get their hands on the new tools so they can get to work on some great content. And yes that includes me as well.

[NakhtiUT3]

Answer to the OP is simple:

UT3 was conceived FIRST as a console game, whereas UT99 & 2K4 were conceived of first as PC games.

UT99 was conceived of as both a PC and PS2 game. I have them both.

[masterp0]

I agree with nakhti. i think the game is fun as it is (could use a few changes but still....). and TBH, i'm kind of glad that alot of the people that care more about tweaking their settings and gaining a competetive edge before they even play a match don't plan on buying this game. I'm so sorry mister competition player, but now you have to actually be better than people that have the same settings as you. i think anyone that decides to not play a game based on the menus, somewhere along the line has forgotten why they started to play video games in the first place.

[Crotale]

Breathe, people, breathe. Things are suddenly looking up, wouldn't you say?

[Bloody Roots]

Businesses either:

A. fail to generate profits, and disappear

or

B. succeed, through growth and change

Which would the PC gamers in here prefer for Epic?

[Chiln_Viln]

Alright, there is hope! Thank You Epic!

A blazing ray of hope has been shined!

Q: I am unhappy with the UI.
A: We're aware that the UI isn't perfect. We're working on numerous improvements and additions to the user interface that will be made available in future updates to UT3.

http://utforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=584654

This is all that I needed to see. Thank You.

[Bloody Roots]

UT99 was conceived of as both a PC and PS2 game. I have them both.

You are wrong. Epic knows well that the profits are now in consoles and will be even more so in the future...

I've read quotes from Epic management expressing grave concern about the future of PC gaming...

[Rujman]

Good, now I can stop reading posts whining about the UI.