Confirmation needed from EPIC: UT3 out on 12th in Germany ?

[sure]

- What exactly is censored?

Wasnt the blood green or something?
Something really stupid i belief.

[Wormbo]

I wasn´t talking about smuggling an uncut UT3 version onto the PC of immature players.

I was talking about two adult persons playing UT3 together using two keys for the same uncut version.


As long as I am adult, I can play in germany any game or watch any movie, no mater how violent they are.

It is just forbidden to advertise or sell games open, which are on the index, to keep children away from them. It just does not really work, the teens in germany get them by peer2peer.

The other thing is: games with nazi symbols are really forbidden, they are seen as propaganda, because games are not defined as some kind of art by law.

I just wanted to mention it, btw.

Oh, I wasn't talking about that semi-stupid Jugendschutzgesetz or similar laws, but of copyright laws. From a copyright point of view you'd be doing the same thing as buying Vista Home to use its key with Vista Ultimate. (Don't think that'd work, but you get the idea.)

[Stoned Rhyno]

you are also not supposed to buy or sell several games like Manhunt or Dead Rising. It's just illegal, like selling heroine or something. No matter how mature the person is

They are some exceptions, but UT3 would be far from that, the uncut version will be on the index, thats all.

In addition to that, the fact that there will be a USK16 evaluated german version, will escape the rule of no advertising.
So UT3(uncut) is in not at all illegal in germany, if it is simply called UT3(dt.).

Die spinnen die Deutschen !!!
(means: The germans are bonkers)

Now back to the topic:

I have three questions there:

- What exactly is censored?

- Is the german UT3 compatible to the other uncut versions, to play online worldwide?

- Will it be possible to use the key for an uncut version? (e.g you buy both to play online with a friend and install him the uncut version with the key from the german UT3)

[Somian]

you are also not supposed to buy or sell several games like Manhunt or Dead Rising. It's just illegal, like selling heroine or something. No matter how mature the person is

[Stoned Rhyno]

That would certainly violate some law.

I wasn´t talking about smuggling an uncut UT3 version onto the PC of immature players.

I was talking about two adult persons playing UT3 together using two keys for the same uncut version.


As long as I am adult, I can play in germany any game or watch any movie, no mater how violent they are.

It is just forbidden to advertise or sell games open, which are on the index, to keep children away from them. It just does not really work, the teens in germany get them by peer2peer.

The other thing is: games with nazi symbols are really forbidden, they are seen as propaganda, because games are not defined as some kind of art by law.

I just wanted to mention it, btw.

[Centurion]

/me lives 8km from German border, but first I need a new rig :-(

[Wormbo]

- Will it be possible to use the key for an uncut version? (e.g you buy both to play online with a friend and install him the uncut version with the key from the german UT3)

That would certainly violate some law.

[Stoned Rhyno]

I have three questions there:

- What exactly is censored?

- Is the german UT3 compatible to the other uncut versions, to play online worldwide?

- Will it be possible to use the key for an uncut version? (e.g you buy both to play online with a friend and install him the uncut version with the key from the german UT3)

[Somian]

I think, they don't want the players to buy it again (lol). in y opinion, they just want us to buy the censored versions before the uncensored comes out, because otherwise we would just order the uncensored.
I ordered it anyway and can wait :>
well.. i actually can't

[Catzenjaeger]

yup i will do that

[Gorge]

@Catzenjaeger
Could you ask someone from Midway if the German version is multilingual. I don't care about gore (prefer to play with reduced gore anyway) but I wouldn't be able to stand the German translation / announcers.

[Loki]

Well you can understand the the german stance on gore filled games, just look at the "angry German kid", hehe.

Nice that you got an early release thou !!

[SwaTz0rs]

lol idd... thats what i always do when i go to the NL... buying BEER

[Wormbo]

I wouldn't count on UT3's german version being as easy to unlock as UT2004. I mean, UT2004 only required a patched Engine.dll, while UT3 might actually have the content removed. Nobody knows.
I'll definitely wait until players messed with it before making up my mind, which version to buy.

[Lord_Impaler]

As I'll ait for the Linux-client before I spend my money, I'll either be waiting for a gore-patch or I'll get a version from the netherlands. It's a good opportunity to buy cheap beer there too.