lighting gun

[3NVY]

Just for the record, this is complete rubbish. The sniper was actually the first high poly weapon modeled in the office. That version was eventually moved over to UC2 before 2k4 went into development, but the Sniper has always been a favorite here, and remained so throughout UT3 development.

All I remember hearing over and over was that the gun was going to be CANNED completely...false rumours then? If so, I stand corrected. Then again, it was given such a MASSIVE overhaul with such blatent intent to dumb it down, it would not surprise me at all that it would be the first one shipped off for re-work.

I must say that while the UT3 version is a pretty looking gun, I have a very tough time completely buying the second part because NO true hardcore sniper would EVER give this gun a passing grade - the scope is nice 'n pretty (way better than 2Ks), sound effects are ok, and the reload (while annoying) is tolerable - but it gives away it's position away FAR too much. So, I would have to conclude that while it may be a "favorite" amongst some of the group, it is either a favorite behind OTHER favorites (i.e. rockets *cough*, shock *cough*...classic favorites of DMers, flagrunners) or is just a favorite in design phases, not for actual practical use -- the fireworks show is downright appauling. And that's not even to MENTION the gayness of that headshot helmet & the lack of a corresponding silencer pick-up (visuals only, not even audio)...so with all due respect (and I mean that sincerely), I just have to say puh-leeeeaaaassssse...

[3NVY]

3NVY=Owned.

lol, not even cl0se...

[SandRock]

ummm, I'm not following you AT ALL dude...all I was saying was that every UT has HAD a sniper rifle from the get-go (the LG came along which was kind of a nice gun in open combat, but gave away position even worse than the sniper in 2K4)...LG was a hybrid type of a gun - hardly a "sniper" rifle though...

Miss-communication. The topic is on the LG. I took 'the rifle' in your post as a reference to that gun. =)

[Green_Day_584]

Im sorry SE7EN, i know you are a member of SniperScope, but i have to say my opinion, and my opinion is the sniper should stay.

i also think the LG was the biggest scam ever.

[da ghost]

UT has never been a sniper related series though. I've never seen the point of having it in. It isn't a tactical shooter where the sniper has his place. Its a close combat game.

There's nothing 'tactical' about the UT sniper.

[Green_Day_584]

The UT Sniper Explained (I hate LG's)

There's nothing 'tactical' about the UT sniper.

it IS tactical mate, and i can prove it.

to be a sniper you need:

A. a good, accurate set of arm reflexes
B. a good knoledge of maps for vantage points (this is the tactics).
C. ability to cut off an opponents supply by ambushing them (also tactical).

it may involve patience, but as a ut player from the beginning i have found the UT sniper to be one of the most tactical and useful weapons in the UT arsenal.

i do respect your opinion, but this is mine, to show the other side of the story

[Ultron]

UT has never been a sniper related series though. I've never seen the point of having it in. It isn't a tactical shooter where the sniper has his place. Its a close combat game.

The Snipey has always had a place in this series, but it's only one gun of many. This isn't a sniper-centric game, but it is still quite useful in many situations. Some maps are better for it than others, naturally.

[PricklyPoo]

The Snipey has always had a place in this series, but it's only one gun of many. This isn't a sniper-centric game, but it is still quite useful in many situations. Some maps are better for it than others, naturally.

The lg seemed better for UT, since it is more futuristic....I would have been fine with the sniper in UT3 but they completely just copied it from gears of war and imported it to UT3. UT was NEVER a sit and snipe game in the first place so I guess the red beam with the sniper in UT3 is good so then you know where people are camping.

[dethmanrulz]

sniping is PERFECT now

[Green_Day_584]

sniping is PERFECT now

i completely agree

its nice and balanced, it looks kewl, and it kicks *****

[sushi159]

I think there is no need for the lightning gun. It's just a more obvious Sniper Rifle. I like the SR better because you can steathly snipe opponents (but actually in the demo, it leaves a trail behind, wtf).

[Slyr7.62]

The lg seemed better for UT......the red beam with the sniper in UT3 is good so then you know where people are camping.

Yø Pøø! I agree, I've always liked the LG better, and the normal sniper in 2k4 just feels weak, like I mean when you hit some1 it's difficult to tell. I guess that is one small good thing about TAM in 2k4, there is no sniper rifle ever lol. tbh though, I kinda like the sniper in UT3, and I'll upgrade in a month or so for UT3. Oh, and like sushi said, I use the sniper rifle sometimes in Vctf games(rarely) when I dont wanna be spotted instantly and otherwise I don't use the sniper unless it's cuze of the map(such as Deck. I liked Deck in UT99, but that was different, I only play deck in 2k4 now if it's TAM, LG FTW.)

[Xzentheus]

i really hope epic brings it back

its one for the good weapons for a sniper

not to mention good for removeing raptors

Even if it isn't brought back... you know some fanatic out there will most likely create a mutator to substitute the sniper for the lightening gun. Just like what happened with 2k3, when there was only LG, someone made a reg sniper mutator

[Brutal]

there was a poll about lg but i dk if it was deleted..... i think machine had made it

[oldkawman1]

I think there is no need for the lightning gun. It's just a more obvious Sniper Rifle. I like the SR better because you can steathly snipe opponents (but actually in the demo, it leaves a trail behind, wtf).

The new gun has poor zoom, less range, slower velocity, requires more feel. Let's see over time, too complex to judge on just the demo. It requires field eval. LG was easier to use FS.