Is the 360 version limited?

[Illuzionz]

http://www.computerandvideogames.com....php?id=170133

Your opinions?

They could always add those maps to marketplace for free because of the knew microsoft supporting content stuff.

[SillyMikey]

Mark will say anything to sell his latest game. This is the guy who said that they cant release the PC Gears of War content on 360 because their engine is sooooooooooooooooo different now. When Gears 2 comes out, he'll be hyping the fact that 360 is so powerful and how they prefer it to ps3!

They made excuses for Gears on PC having the extra content, now they're making excuses for UT3 on ps3.

He'll say anything so you buy every game they come out with.

Release those extra maps as downloads day 1 on xbox live. They have to make the maps anyways for the ps3 version. Or will there be more excuses?

[sourshishke]

yes

What about the core owners, they wont get it.

[icecone]

They could always add those maps to marketplace for free because of the knew microsoft supporting content stuff. <-- Are you sure?
They can't even made the GOW maps free until 3/9.
M$ is a company which only aims to make money but not making fans

[SillyMikey]

They could always add those maps to marketplace for free because of the knew microsoft supporting content stuff. <-- Are you sure?
They can't even made the GOW maps free until 3/9.
M$ is a company which only aims to make money but not making fans

Gears is published by MS. UT3 isn't.

[Illuzionz]

They could always add those maps to marketplace for free because of the knew microsoft supporting content stuff. <-- Are you sure?
They can't even made the GOW maps free until 3/9.
M$ is a company which only aims to make money but not making fans

Recently, as in 1 day ago. Microsoft announced that they will be supporting free user created content from pc to 360 versions of game(s).

[Mark Rein]

I continue to be disappointed that folks on the internet treat any positive thing we say about one platform as some sort of critique of another platform. We're a multi-platform company folks please come to grips with that. We like the PC. We like the 360. We like the PS3. We like the Macintosh. We like Linux. We will deliver UT3 for all of these platforms and it will rock on every one.

The simple facts state that the optical disc on the PS3 holds more data than the optical disc on the 360. If we exceed size of the 360s optical disc then we'll have to find alternative ways to get the content to 360 users such as making it downloadable. Adding a second DVD to a game like UT3 would be a challenge because when playing online you might not know exactly what map you're going to be playing next and we have to be able to accommodate users of the core system. So does that mean the disc on the 360 might have a map or two less? Possibly although it is too early to tell for sure. People love Unreal Tournament because we always ship it with tons of great content but that also makes it a bit of a disc hog - in a good way

Obviously, and as is true with most major games on 360 and PS3, you're going to be putting your hard drive to good use if you want to experience the full richness of content that UT3 will have to offer over the lifetime of the game. the fact that you can do this is a good thing.

I don't know the exact numbers but I suspect the version of Gears of War that most of our customers play today on their 360s, when you combine the downloadable content with the content on the disc, is larger than what we could fit on the 360's optical disc alone. So clearly there are perfectly good strategies to cope with this situation. We're all very used to downloading extra content for console games and with UT3 there will be lots of it for all supported platforms. In fact the cool thing about our engine is that when you make content for one platform it can run on all of them. If history is any indication, the vast majority of UT3 content won't even come from Epic - it will come from some very brilliant end users with lots of cool and innovative ideas.

When it comes to user created mods on the 360 - we will work with Microsoft to find a way to support them. We just don't have all the answers today and it isn't our chief priority at this very moment because we already have our hands completely full shipping UT3 on PC and PS3 as well as shipping Gears of War on PC. When we get those out of the way, and get a little time to spend with our friends and families, then we'll get back on this issue and figure it out.

[Vinnie_PT]

Sooo... does that mean the PC / Mac / Linux versions will also have less content? Because the last time i checked most people didn't had a BD drive in their computers. Heck, a lot of them don't even have a DVD drive.

[expanded for clarification, since some people like to criticize without knowing any facts]

The US are not the center of the universe, wich means not every single computer out there has a DVD drive in it.

Pressing 1 DVD is roughly the cost of pressing 4 CDs, that was the reason given a few years back for UT2004s 6 CDs (yes, i know the SCE version came out in a DVD, but that was a limited edition)
I don't think they'll be pressing more than 1 DVD for this game even if it's for the PC. It's probably not cost effective. My 2 cents are on a 1 DVD edition with the missing stuff being available through download, leaving those still living with 56K or without internet unable to access this content.

Yes, there are still people without internet or on 56k modems with machines capable of playing this game. Remember that most UT2003/2004 buyers NEVER played online.
Again, the US are not the center of the universe and the rest of the world is very different from your neighborhood, so don't judge everyone else based on your narrow view.

[Apathy]

I love you Mr. Rein

Sooo... does that mean the PC / Mac / Linux versions will also have less content? Because the last time i checked most people didn't had a BD drive in their computers. Heck, a lot of them don't even have a DVD drive.

I don't know anyone that doesn't have a DVD drive. I do know people that have both DVD and regular CD drive, but never touch the regular CD drive.

[durtytarget]

Mark, just in case.. you need not get offended by these newb's. Some people comment before they read..some people comment before they play. It's all part of an open forum where you let people in who just sometimes join to say "epic sucks you like PS3!" then some other guy comes and says "epic sucks cause you like X360!"(you means You as in Mark rein). Now to think of it, aren't those totally contradicting?

All I'd say is, "best of luck to you making a game that makes the history of gaming itself!" "Do what you do best and what you think is really best for the game."

Thanks big time!

[Ultron]

Sooo... does that mean the PC / Mac / Linux versions will also have less content? Because the last time i checked most people didn't had a BD drive in their computers. Heck, a lot of them don't even have a DVD drive.

The PC version could have all the content distributed on multiple DVD's. After all it all goes onto the hard drive and you play it from there, inserting only the Play DVD when needed, until that copy protection is eliminated by Epic.

With the 360 you play off the DVD, and access additional content on the hard drive. In theory you could just have the Play DVD and an additional content DVD on the X360, just like the PC.

So let's hold off prejudgement right now, okay?

[Sublime]

The PC version could have all the content distributed on multiple DVD's. After all it all goes onto the hard drive and you play it from there, inserting only the Play DVD when needed, until that copy protection is eliminated by Epic.

With the 360 you play off the DVD, and access additional content on the hard drive. In theory you could just have the Play DVD and an additional content DVD on the X360, just like the PC.

So let's hold off prejudgement right now, okay?

　 　

[karmatized]

well people also have to remember that typicilly from what i have seen and what a lot of game reviews say is that the 360 typiclly has higher res textures on the same game then the ps3. That alone is gonna eat up disk space.

[ColdFire]

im really starting to get worried over the future of the xbox 360, with games unable to fit onto a single disc this early on, 360 only been out 22months or so, and already their limitations

[Mark Rein]

im really starting to get worried over the future of the xbox 360, with games unable to fit onto a single disc this early on, 360 only been out 22months or so, and already their limitations

There is nothing to worry about here. You can still fit a heck of a lot of game on an Xbox 360 disc and Microsoft has a great system for handling downloadable content.