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**Bret Hart** · 09-08-2008, 11:24 PM

Looks promising, I'll let you know when I test it later tonight...

**dave neun** · 09-08-2008, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by Bret Hart View Post

Looks promising, I'll let you know when I test it later tonight...

Thanks I am honored man, let me know what you think I value your opinion.

**Akira Kurosawa** · 09-08-2008, 11:53 PM

**** I knew I should have released mine yesterday. >.>
Been working on my own 'classic' face.
I probably will later anyways though. As ours look completely different other than the base towers.

Anyways, congrats.

**Chaosnight** · 09-09-2008, 12:40 AM

Looks good, ill d/l in abit, as for the rocking skydome, i think it can be accomplished through movers,matinee and kismet. Just make all the stuff movers, make the matinee for it, and connect that to a level start up event.

**WoLvErInE** · 09-09-2008, 01:12 AM

just had a run through it real quick found few things.
(1)you fall through the static mesh behind blue base, i don't think you have collision set. (2) the rocks on the sides of the base, you can see right through them, maybe add blocking volume.
(3) smooth out the terrain in front of the bases.
(4) you have some weird texture stretching on the edge of the terrain , and some grass thats just sticking up and not looking right.

anyways i'll have another run through it later. keep up the good work, looks good so far

**Kirby4life0** · 09-09-2008, 05:45 AM

I dont know what you mean by a rocking skyzone, but like it was said in the thread, just a few matinee events tied to a level start and looped should get you whatever you want to move to stay moving for the entirety of the match, if you were a little bit more specific (I don't remember what you're trying to replicate) I could walk ya through it.

Also I BEG of you, don't overdo the tentacles.

**dave neun** · 09-09-2008, 05:57 AM

Originally posted by WoLvErInE View Post

just had a run through it real quick found few things.
(1)you fall through the static mesh behind blue base, i don't think you have collision set. (2) the rocks on the sides of the base, you can see right through them, maybe add blocking volume.
(3) smooth out the terrain in front of the bases.
(4) you have some weird texture stretching on the edge of the terrain , and some grass thats just sticking up and not looking right.

anyways i'll have another run through it later. keep up the good work, looks good so far

cool thanks for pointing that out, it has only been tested once and i suspect only from the red team

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I just did a run through with normal gravity so I could test all the edges and they seem good. The terrain needs dressing up still as I was saying it still needs more grass which also needs to be turned black. the stretched terrain on the edges is intentional and will be hidden partially by vines and tentacles but it is ultimately supposed to look like more of the vine look spilling over. lol it is not easy to model with terrain as you cannot cut it exactly the way you want so you need to hide the squares ya know. Hopefully I will achieve this by the next release, though I might throw a quick patch on the blocking and smooth the grass bump at the entry that you have pointed out and re upload it as that is really annoying IMHO.

thanks for feeding back

edit: I rebuilt it to fix the blocking issue, oddly the blocking from the original map was indeed there. though I still would spawn or fall waist deep into it. I just added collision to the statics properties and it seems to have no problem. Thank you for pointing that out. I also addressed the terrain somewhat, though I am not by any means content to call is done. As far as the rocks blocking was/is enabled but there is one rock only partially effected by this for some reason. I did a quick fix on that as well which I will make better for the next release. Need a couple days for life and I can then start working on that.

Originally posted by Kirby4life0 View Post

I dont know what you mean by a rocking skyzone, but like it was said in the thread, just a few matinee events tied to a level start and looped should get you whatever you want to move to stay moving for the entirety of the match, if you were a little bit more specific (I don't remember what you're trying to replicate) I could walk ya through it.

Also I BEG of you, don't overdo the tentacles.

hehehehe.. don't worry man the bulk of the tentacles are in though I would like to play with matinees to see if I can trigger their movement or appearance ( by that I mean make them appear and go away). My ultimate goal is to do this map justice as I see it as a classic.

Rocking sky-zone was an unreal 2 way to make the sky spin. In the 2k4 version of face classic the sky would spin around in circles which was a big part of the map IMHO. It played with your senses in an odd manner, giving some people a dizzy feeling. To me that needs to happen for this map if it is at all possible. The mover thing I am semi suspicious of I must admit however due to the nature of static meshes and some of them spinning in different directions etc. I say this with regards to if you have several things selected and then try to spin them. Sometimes it works perf sometimes not and there is an awful lot of items in the sky box to spin. I am going to look into the things mentioned for sure though for sure because again that was a lot to do with Face.

**ShadeMistress** · 09-09-2008, 06:23 PM

One way to do the sky is to convert one central object as a mover (InterpActor), most likely the star sphere would be the prime candidate.

Next, go into it's properties and under 'Movement' then 'Physics' Change it from "PHYS_Interpolating" to "PHYS_Rotating."

Also under Movement, change the rotation rate to something else to get it rolling (Roll=0.25, Pitch=-1.125, Yaw=2.45 for an example).

Write down or otherwise keep track of the name of this InterpActor.

Now, change all of the other sky-related meshes to Movers as well.

While keeping all of these meshes (now InterpActors) selected, go into their properties and go to the "Attachment" tab.

Tick the "bHardAttach" property to be true, this will make the mesh lock permanently in place in relation to the "Base Mesh."

Okay, now in the "Base" section (also under "Attachments"), type in the name of the Star Sphere mesh and all of these meshes are now attached and will rotate with the skydome.

Now you have a rotating skydome that requires absolutely no Kismet at all.

Viola! Go test it and make sure all is going right.

I did this with my StratusFear map and it worked a treat. If you do run into an issue with an item "popping" over to an incorrect position on match startup, try deleting out the Base Mesh name and typing it in again... sometimes changing too many at a time will screw up one or two, but it's easily fixed.

**dave neun** · 09-09-2008, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by ShadeMistress View Post

One way to do the sky is to convert one central object as a mover (InterpActor), most likely the star sphere would be the prime candidate.

Next, go into it's properties and under 'Movement' then 'Physics' Change it from "PHYS_Interpolating" to "PHYS_Rotating."

Also under Movement, change the rotation rate to something else to get it rolling (Roll=0.25, Pitch=-1.125, Yaw=2.45 for an example).

Write down or otherwise keep track of the name of this InterpActor.

Now, change all of the other sky-related meshes to Movers as well.

While keeping all of these meshes (now InterpActors) selected, go into their properties and go to the "Attachment" tab.

Tick the "bHardAttach" property to be true, this will make the mesh lock permanently in place in relation to the "Base Mesh."

Okay, now in the "Base" section (also under "Attachments"), type in the name of the Star Sphere mesh and all of these meshes are now attached and will rotate with the skydome.

Now you have a rotating skydome that requires absolutely no Kismet at all.

Viola! Go test it and make sure all is going right.

I did this with my StratusFear map and it worked a treat. If you do run into an issue with an item "popping" over to an incorrect position on match startup, try deleting out the Base Mesh name and typing it in again... sometimes changing too many at a time will screw up one or two, but it's easily fixed.

nice.. this will work nicely. I was conserned about having many planes and objects all rotating on different planes was what was killing my thought process. This is a great solution, set one plane and lock all other planes to it

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thanks ShadeMistress

**hi-ban** · 09-09-2008, 08:57 PM

yeah, shademistress is right about the rotating skydome(universe). you have to "hard-attach" all environmental elements to the rotating skydome.
I also did my personal "classic" version of Face a while ago, and (apart from the asteroid belt) i added some rocks spinning around the level, and also rotating aroun their axis. I hard-attached them to the skydome, and later i added rotating speed to some rocks, in order to make them spin.
i'll create a thread for it...

**dave neun** · 09-09-2008, 11:30 PM

the rocking skyzone is fixed, thanks shade mistress. I dont really see a reason for a tutorial though. What she has posted is fine and worked and it is a rarely used.

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