Galtanor's Invasion [Beta][Pics][Updated 10/26/2008][v022][Patch 1.3]

[BuffyTheSlayer]

OMG ! new Monsters !!!

thank you for nice scary monsters for new version !
hope coming more and more

[BattleMode]

I got some complaints that sometimes in spectator mode chatting no longer works. Is this a known problem? I also experienced it once myself.

Also there seems to be a delay when new monsters are created at the beginning of a wave.

[bushbomb]

I thought that was a problem with my mutator Playing normal, after a few minutes I could type "say testing" or anything else and it would never display to messages. Haven't noticed this since version 007, but haven't tried that much either.

[godmode0]

I got some complaints that sometimes in spectator mode chatting no longer works. Is this a known problem? I also experienced it once myself.

Also there seems to be a delay when new monsters are created at the beginning of a wave.

Hah cool im not the only one , my buddy and me experience same probem with text chat , after lets say maybey 50 words ,,, chat is totaly gone and it sux balls we thought its an epic bug , so it was not posted in galatonots or the rpg topic Its not in spctator mode only
can be in wave 4 and can be after 10 words ! ( annyway didnt have time to spit in the topics ) but where is the VOIP text chat like in u2k4 did i miss something?



Galtanor monsters are insane strong , after wave 7 its imposible lol
Maybey idea to make this heads a litle smaller , i have top end system but its eats power like and idiot specialy last 4 waves or something ! , something like apreload woold be awsome too .. sometimes when wave start it hangs for 2 3 sec

[instagibbed]

When playing with the RPG mutator, the mini darkwalkers no longer have the bubble around them and their weapon is not shown when they are firing (the beam is invisible). Same with the Skulls that use the same weapon.

When I tried this with normal Invasion (without the RPG mutator), it seems fine.

Posting this in BattleMode's thread too.

[bushbomb]

Another product of boredom: Wave Config tool

[Galtanor]

I got some complaints that sometimes in spectator mode chatting no longer works. Is this a known problem? I also experienced it once myself.

Also there seems to be a delay when new monsters are created at the beginning of a wave.

I thought that was a problem with my mutator Playing normal, after a few minutes I could type "say testing" or anything else and it would never display to messages. Haven't noticed this since version 007, but haven't tried that much either.

Hah cool im not the only one , my buddy and me experience same probem with text chat , after lets say maybey 50 words ,,, chat is totaly gone and it sux balls we thought its an epic bug , so it was not posted in galatonots or the rpg topic Its not in spctator mode only
can be in wave 4 and can be after 10 words ! ( annyway didnt have time to spit in the topics ) but where is the VOIP text chat like in u2k4 did i miss something?

Galtanor monsters are insane strong , after wave 7 its imposible lol
Maybey idea to make this heads a litle smaller , i have top end system but its eats power like and idiot specialy last 4 waves or something ! , something like apreload woold be awsome too .. sometimes when wave start it hangs for 2 3 sec

The text chat disappearing has been an issue since I created the gametype. It is sporatic and has been hard to pin down where it is failing. I will take a look at it again.

I could try to force load all the monsters at the beginning of the game, that might stop the momentary pause when they are first created.

If you think the monsters are too strong/weak, you can adjust their health using the UTGaltanorsInvasionMonsters.ini file. If you would like more options to adjust the monsters, I am open to suggestions. You can find configuration information here: http://invasion.sudreal.org/index.ph...Manager_Config

When playing with the RPG mutator, the mini darkwalkers no longer have the bubble around them and their weapon is not shown when they are firing (the beam is invisible). Same with the Skulls that use the same weapon.

When I tried this with normal Invasion (without the RPG mutator), it seems fine.

I have need seen/heard of this before... can you please check the log file to see if there are any errors?

- Galtanor

[bushbomb]

Galt, can you e-mail me source for 001, 2, and 3 with the version you think the text problem started happening? I'll take a look at it. I have 4 and on.

[Galtanor]

Galt, can you e-mail me source for 001, 2, and 3 with the version you think the text problem started happening? I'll take a look at it. I have 4 and on.

I can, but I think its been a problem in every version. Somewhere it blocks spectators from chatting. I have a couple of questions tho...
Does it only happen when out of lives and in spectator mode?
When the wave ends, you get another life, and respawn, is the ability to chat back? or still gone?

Edit: NM, I think I found the problem!

[BattleMode]

Edit: NM, I think I found the problem!

Great!

I could try to force load all the monsters at the beginning of the game, that might stop the momentary pause when they are first created.

Sounds promising. BTW, what about creating the monsters is taking so much time?

If you would like more options to adjust the monsters, I am open to suggestions.

I think the biggest problem with Invasion has always been that the human team size can vary but the monster team size is always the same. I think some way of making the number of monsters dependent on the number of players would be great. This would solve the problem of Invasion being too hard with small teams and too easy with big teams.

[Galtanor]

Another product of boredom: Wave Config tool

Looking good so far! The only features that seem to be missing is the option to create/insert new waves into a wave setup and create a whole new wave setup with a new name.

Sounds promising. BTW, what about creating the monsters is taking so much time?

It seems most noticeable on the custom monsters... I think its the fact they are not 'standard' resources and the game has to be 'told' to load them. The delay is probably just opening the file and copying the resources into memory.

I think the biggest problem with Invasion has always been that the human team size can vary but the monster team size is always the same. I think some way of making the number of monsters dependent on the number of players would be great. This would solve the problem of Invasion being too hard with small teams and too easy with big teams.

Ok, what about adding a recommended 'player count' to each wave. If the number of players is higher or lower then the recommended, then the MaxActive and MaxWave can be adjusted accordingly. What do you think?

[bushbomb]

I can, but I think its been a problem in every version. Somewhere it blocks spectators from chatting. I have a couple of questions tho...
Does it only happen when out of lives and in spectator mode?
When the wave ends, you get another life, and respawn, is the ability to chat back? or still gone?

Edit: NM, I think I found the problem!

lol, do share I have not been a spec, so when it happened to me, we just started playing, first wave, all still alive, and we can't type anymore.

[BattleMode]

Ok, what about adding a recommended 'player count' to each wave. If the number of players is higher or lower then the recommended, then the MaxActive and MaxWave can be adjusted accordingly. What do you think?

I would prefer more precise control.

Perhaps something like:

MaxActive = MaxActiveBasic + MaxActivePerPlayer * NumberOfPlayers
MaxWave = MaxWaveBasic + MaxWavePerPlayer * NumberOfPlayers

So instead of defining MaxActive you would define MaxActiveBasic and MaxActivePerPlayer. You could for example do this calculation at the beginning of each wave. By only defining MaxActiveBasic you could get the current behavior for those who prefer that.

[bushbomb]

Ok, what about adding a recommended 'player count' to each wave. If the number of players is higher or lower then the recommended, then the MaxActive and MaxWave can be adjusted accordingly. What do you think?

Sounds like a good idea. Perhaps something like (pseudocoded):

function AdjustMonsters()
}
MonsterAdjustment = playercount / recommended
if playercount < recommended
    MaxActive *= max(1, MonsterAdjust / 2)
    MaxWave *= max(1, MonsterAdjust / 2)
elseif playercount > recommended
    MaxActive *= MonsterAdjust
    MaxWave *= MonsterAdjust
end if
}

and called when a player joins or leaves the game.

In summary, if 8 is the default MaxActive
if there are half(6) the players recommended(12), there will be 75%(6/8) of the monsters at a time.
if there are double(18) the players recommended(12), there will be 200%(16/8) of the monsters at a time.

[BattleMode]

I noticed Galtanor Invasion seems to show up as DM in the server list now. Is this by design or coincidence?