What kind of fps should I be getting?

[Random54]

This isn't a magic fix, but it will help if your CPU is the bottleneck. Give these settings a try if changing your resolution does not effect your minimum framerate.

[Engine.Engine]
bUsePixelShaderComplexity=False
bUseAdditiveComplexity=False

[SystemSettings]
DetailMode=0

If your GPU is the bottleneck I'd recommend turning scaling back on AF and AA settings for a start although a 4870x2 shouldn't be having problems.

[Tomeis]

This isn't a magic fix, but it will help if your CPU is the bottleneck. Give these settings a try if changing your resolution does not effect your minimum framerate.



If your GPU is the bottleneck I'd recommend turning scaling back on AF and AA settings for a start although a 4870x2 shouldn't be having problems.

Also try changing AllowD3D10=True to AllowD3D10=False

[ArcticZero]

I actually already tried the aforementioned changes to UTengine.ini. I don't notice any difference whatsoever in FPS. The -onethread parameter does nothing for me either.

[Random54]

Could you post the part of your UTEngine.ini labeled [SystemSettings] ?

Keep in mind this must be the UTEngine.ini from the Documents\My Games\Unreal Tournament 3\UTGame\Config folder.

[ArcticZero]

Here you go:

[SystemSettings]
StaticDecals=True
DynamicDecals=True
DynamicLights=True
DynamicShadows=True
LightEnvironmentShadows=True
CompositeDynamicLights=False
DirectionalLightmaps=True
MotionBlur=True
DepthOfField=True
Bloom=True
QualityBloom=True
Distortion=True
DropParticleDistortion=False
SpeedTreeLeaves=True
SpeedTreeFronds=True
OnlyStreamInTextures=True
LensFlares=True
FogVolumes=True
FloatingPointRenderTargets=True
Trilinear=True
OneFrameThreadLag=False
UseVsync=False
UpscaleScreenPercentage=True
Fullscreen=True
AllowD3D10=True
EnableHighPolyChars=True
SkeletalMeshLODBias=0
ParticleLODBias=0
DetailMode=2
ShadowFilterQualityBias=1
MaxAnisotropy=16
MaxMultisamples=1
MinShadowResolution=32
MaxShadowResolution=512
ResX=1680
ResY=1050
ScreenPercentage=100.000000
SceneCaptureStreamingMultiplier=1.000000
FoliageDrawRadiusMultiplier=1.000000
ShadowTexelsPerPixel=2.000000
TEXTUREGROUP_World=(MinLODSize=256,MaxLODSize=1024 ,LODBias=0)
TEXTUREGROUP_WorldNormalMap=(MinLODSize=512,MaxLOD Size=1024,LODBias=1)
TEXTUREGROUP_WorldSpecular=(MinLODSize=256,MaxLODS ize=1024,LODBias=1)
TEXTUREGROUP_Character=(MinLODSize=512,MaxLODSize= 1024,LODBias=0)
TEXTUREGROUP_CharacterNormalMap=(MinLODSize=512,Ma xLODSize=1024,LODBias=0)
TEXTUREGROUP_CharacterSpecular=(MinLODSize=512,Max LODSize=1024,LODBias=0)
TEXTUREGROUP_Weapon=(MinLODSize=512,MaxLODSize=102 4,LODBias=0)
TEXTUREGROUP_WeaponNormalMap=(MinLODSize=1024,MaxL ODSize=1024,LODBias=0)
TEXTUREGROUP_WeaponSpecular=(MinLODSize=512,MaxLOD Size=1024,LODBias=0)
TEXTUREGROUP_Vehicle=(MinLODSize=1024,MaxLODSize=2 048,LODBias=0)
TEXTUREGROUP_VehicleNormalMap=(MinLODSize=1024,Max LODSize=2048,LODBias=1)
TEXTUREGROUP_VehicleSpecular=(MinLODSize=1024,MaxL ODSize=2048,LODBias=1)
TEXTUREGROUP_Effects=(MinLODSize=256,MaxLODSize=10 24,LODBias=0)
TEXTUREGROUP_Skybox=(MinLODSize=512,MaxLODSize=204 8,LODBias=0)
TEXTUREGROUP_UI=(MinLODSize=1024,MaxLODSize=4096,L ODBias=0)
TEXTUREGROUP_LightAndShadowMap=(MinLODSize=512,Max LODSize=4096,LODBias=0)
TEXTUREGROUP_RenderTarget=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize =4096,LODBias=0)

Thanks for trying to help! Greatly appreciated.

[Random54]

Well for starters I would change MaxAnisotropy=16 to 4 and see the effect. Setting it above 4 gives a fairly minor improvement for a substantial dip in performance.
Also try changing ShadowTexelsPerPixel=2.000000 to 1. Apparently quality does not improve by setting it higher.

My settings are a combination of high visibility settings for competitive play and performance tweaks. Here they are:

StaticDecals=False
DynamicDecals=False
DynamicLights=True
DynamicShadows=True
LightEnvironmentShadows=True
CompositeDynamicLights=True
DirectionalLightmaps=True
MotionBlur=False
DepthOfField=False
Bloom=False
QualityBloom=False
Distortion=False
DropParticleDistortion=True
SpeedTreeLeaves=False
SpeedTreeFronds=False
OnlyStreamInTextures=True
LensFlares=False
FogVolumes=True
FloatingPointRenderTargets=True
Trilinear=False
OneFrameThreadLag=True
UseVsync=True
UpscaleScreenPercentage=True
Fullscreen=True
AllowD3D10=False
EnableHighPolyChars=False
SkeletalMeshLODBias=0
ParticleLODBias=64000
DetailMode=0
ShadowFilterQualityBias=1
MaxAnisotropy=4
MaxMultisamples=0
MinShadowResolution=32
MaxShadowResolution=512
ResX=1920
ResY=1200
ScreenPercentage=100.000000
SceneCaptureStreamingMultiplier=1.500000
FoliageDrawRadiusMultiplier=0.500000
ShadowTexelsPerPixel=1.000000

The reason some of the settings are lower is because the last thing you want when playing a competitive game is to be distracted by parts of the map moving. Also the Necris skin is much more difficult to see with DepthofField on.

[Tomeis]

Well for starters I would change MaxAnisotropy=16 to 4 and see the effect. Setting it above 4 gives a fairly minor improvement for a substantial dip in performance.
Also try changing ShadowTexelsPerPixel=2.000000 to 1. Apparently quality does not improve by setting it higher.

My settings are a combination of high visibility settings for competitive play and performance tweaks. Here they are:

StaticDecals=False
DynamicDecals=False
DynamicLights=True
DynamicShadows=True
LightEnvironmentShadows=True
CompositeDynamicLights=True
DirectionalLightmaps=True
MotionBlur=False
DepthOfField=False
Bloom=False
QualityBloom=False
Distortion=False
DropParticleDistortion=True
SpeedTreeLeaves=False
SpeedTreeFronds=False
OnlyStreamInTextures=True
LensFlares=False
FogVolumes=True
FloatingPointRenderTargets=True
Trilinear=False
OneFrameThreadLag=True
UseVsync=True
UpscaleScreenPercentage=True
Fullscreen=True
AllowD3D10=False
EnableHighPolyChars=False
SkeletalMeshLODBias=0
ParticleLODBias=64000
DetailMode=0
ShadowFilterQualityBias=1
MaxAnisotropy=4
MaxMultisamples=0
MinShadowResolution=32
MaxShadowResolution=512
ResX=1920
ResY=1200
ScreenPercentage=100.000000
SceneCaptureStreamingMultiplier=1.500000
FoliageDrawRadiusMultiplier=0.500000
ShadowTexelsPerPixel=1.000000

The reason some of the settings are lower is because the last thing you want when playing a competitive game is to be distracted by parts of the map moving. Also the Necris skin is much more difficult to see with DepthofField on.

I find that changing the anisotropic filtering doesn't affect performance whatsoever. Even textures themselves don't affect performance. Even when I had an 8600GT and a 4000+ 2.1ghz dual-core, textures and AF filtering didn't touch my FPS. This wasn't in just UT3 but in ALL games such as CoD4, BF2, World in Conflict, Crysis (yes, even Crysis), etc. Crysis really put strain on that little 8600GT, but textures was one of the settings I could put on "Very high" which gave me huge increase in visuals, but no impact on performance.

Graphics cards nowadays are too powerful for AF filtering to make a performance hit. Maybe if you're using an nvidia 6 series GPU or something like that...

[ArcticZero]

Tried those to no avail. However, setting Catalyst A.I. to disabled gave me about +6 min fps. My max fps dropped from 200+ to 150fps, but that's fine. That essentially means it's running on just one 4870 1GB. This leads me to believe it's using a ton of CPU power. I really don't get why though... A Q6600 @ 3.4ghz should be enough to get at least 60fps minimum with nothing going on, right? Or heck, 45fps min with 5 bots? That's unacceptable.

Also yes, this only happened in Vista. XP gave me a minimum of 80fps with 15 bots.

[Random54]

Something always bottlenecks your performance in these areas. Stand in one and check your cpu load (per core) and gpu load. If one or more of the cpu cores is above 90% the bottleneck then change the settings that effect the cpu. If gpu is the bottle neck then change the settings that effect the gpu. Changing gpu settings will have no effect on fps if cpu is the bottleneck.

I could be wrong but I believe that these are the only settings that really drag down the CPU:

[Engine.Engine]
bUsePixelShaderComplexity=False
bUseAdditiveComplexity=False

[SystemSettings]
DetailMode=0