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    Originally posted by melissa_jo View Post
    About smaller crates in the pool (they are being washed?) I wasn't suggesting a specific jump height. Say it this way: as it is, seemed almost like "walking on water" when I ran across the pool area.
    Washed? haha
    The water ended up being decorative rather than functional. (I think the idea with the crates in the water came from nuclear plants.)

    Something like this, maybe.
    [screenshot]http://spectrum.ieee.org/image/37182[/screenshot]

    (The FSI water doesn't draw right, however. The character is drawn on top of the water when knee deep. Probably a two-sided thing I have to sort out.)

    Originally posted by melissa_jo View Post
    Works fine to block players. My point in mentioning it was the BV isn't wide enough to encompass the sMesh wall decorations and (from memory) those meshes were collision-enabled. My comment was just a tiny, nitpicky Helpful Harriet observation.
    The collision was disabled for all those SMs, but I forgot to block all in the BV--thanks, Harriet.

    The BV shouldn't need to encompass the outer subtractions AFAIK.

    Originally posted by melissa_jo View Post
    and, since bDirectional=True should have zero performance impact at runtime (right?) maybe you're following BestPractices and the pathNodes should remain directional in the finished map.
    Since it's a non-default value, it might add a few bytes extra in total, but it doesn't affect performance.

    Another BestPractices, then, with navigationpoints, is to keep them a bit away (32-64 UUs?) from zoneportal sheet intersections, to avoid HOM effects when spawned too close.

    Originally posted by melissa_jo View Post
    Awww, I was just teasing! The way I worded it, I figured you would chuckle. It's an effective deco the way it is -- made me wonder "what's in there? why can't I go in there? Izzit radioactive?"
    The water is radioactive. The player model you used now has cancer. (Maybe I'll add a Geiger teller sound in there.)

    But yes, definitely more cover. Finding a balance.

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    Ah, lights placed to deliver Coronas. I didn't take that into consideration. The FPS playing your map was fine. I didn't mean to suggest otherwise. If you already tried more, and smaller, crates and that hampered performance... okay, but without some (more) cover items I'd worry few people will treat as "interesting enough to be a keeper". About smaller crates in the pool (they are being washed?) I wasn't suggesting a specific jump height. Say it this way: as it is, seemed almost like "walking on water" when I ran across the pool area.

    (BlockingVolume3)Did you find that it didn't work?
    Works fine to block players. My point in mentioning it was the BV isn't wide enough to encompass the sMesh wall decorations and (from memory) those meshes were collision-enabled. My comment was just a tiny, nitpicky Helpful Harriet observation.

    This is *currently* enabled as a guide for me. It's a 3SPN TAM/Freon adjustment--RatePlayerStart in 3SPN TAM/Freon doesn't adjust the player view when picking non-PlayerStart positions. This way, I can best select which direction the player is looking when spawned at those points.
    In questioning it, I was trying to understand it rather than criticizing the directionality. Thanks for explaining. RandomPlayerStart mutator honors author-specified pathNode directionality (but few authors do specify) and, since bDirectional=True should have zero performance impact at runtime (right?) maybe you're following BestPractices and the pathNodes should remain directional in the finished map.

    (3 giant snowballs) That's only decorative
    Awww, I was just teasing! The way I worded it, I figured you would chuckle. It's an effective deco the way it is -- made me wonder "what's in there? why can't I go in there? Izzit radioactive?"

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    My maps are primarily aimed at the TAM/Freon gametype, however, I make sure they are playable as DM or TDM.

    Originally posted by melissa_jo View Post
    662 light actors(...)seems like way too many.
    The floor lights are required, then some for ambience, and then there are "corona lights" which don't emit any light (LightType == LT_None).

    Originally posted by melissa_jo View Post
    I wish the level in the pool was lower (ledge to duck behind and, need to step up to get out) and wish the crates were scaled smaller
    Double jump height?
    There were twice as many crates at half the size, but that impacted performance a bit more.

    Originally posted by melissa_jo View Post
    so that you could get under the stairs and hide down between the crates (or maybe hide a keg-o-health down there somewhere between the crates).
    Deep water is a problem in Freon gametypes, where players could be pushed into the water to thaw, limiting their movement. That's why it's shallow so they can have a chance. At first it was intended for people jumping down from the top platform, to eliminate the impact factor.

    Originally posted by melissa_jo View Post
    What are the 3 giant melted snowballs (encompassed by BlockingVolume11)
    That's only decorative. I'll make that more obvious. (It's where the crates would be moved in/out of the structure.)

    Originally posted by melissa_jo View Post
    On the bottom floor, I wish there was a stariwell or ramp, or teleporter (back near PathNode21) to provde another exit.
    More options.

    Originally posted by melissa_jo View Post
    Overall, I think it would be more interesting if there were more cover items scattered around the floor plan, and maybe another (or two) set of door movers.
    I'll try stuff out. I'm shrinking that area a bit.

    Originally posted by melissa_jo View Post
    BlockingVolume3
    Did you find that it didn't work?
    I did it that way to prevent wall huggers from potentially stopping up whenever they hit each separately subtracted+blocked area, which does happen.

    Originally posted by melissa_jo View Post
    Hmm, the apple pathnodes are set bDirectional=True
    False is the default and I don't expect you're accomplishing anything by settng it true.
    This is *currently* enabled as a guide for me. It's a 3SPN TAM/Freon adjustment--RatePlayerStart in 3SPN TAM/Freon doesn't adjust the player view when picking non-PlayerStart positions. This way, I can best select which direction the player is looking when spawned at those points.

    Originally posted by melissa_jo View Post
    BLUE path segments
    I will take more care with these.

    Originally posted by melissa_jo View Post
    While reviewing the pathing, look for "bot frustration" situations. For example, at PathNode107 you have told the bots (via "ForcedPaths") to goto JumpSpot8. They can't -- a beam is in the way! The bots won't know that and they may stupidly keep trying over and over (shooting their translauncher disc toward the ForcedPaths jumpspot.
    The bot paths certainly haven't been reviewed for some revisions. I will usually test with reviewjumpspots and adjust the translocator offset as needed.

    Thanks for the detailed review.


    Might make light in main hall a bit warmer.

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    To me, the lighting seemed especially realistic. Maybe with differing fogDistance settings, we're seeing it differently. 662 light actors though, ouch, that seems like way too many.

    I like the fact that the floorplan isn't "perfectly symmetrical". I got owned several times by LavaVolume0. Haha, that's a pretty darn clever placement for a hazard location!

    Feedback from a player perspective:

    I wish the level in the pool was lower (ledge to duck behind and, need to step up to get out) and wish the crates were scaled smaller, so that you could get under the stairs and hide down between the crates (or maybe hide a keg-o-health down there somewhere between the crates).
    What are the 3 giant melted snowballs (encompassed by BlockingVolume11)... and why, oh why can't we play in that room? On the bottom floor, I wish there was a stariwell or ramp, or teleporter (back near PathNode21) to provde another exit. Overall, I think it would be more interesting if there were more cover items scattered around the floor plan, and maybe another (or two) set of door movers.

    Technical feedback:

    BlockingVolume3 doesn't fully encompass the wall sMeshes, so won't help reduce collision calculation. As it is now, Is it even needed? Those subtractive brushs representing window wells, could just set their collision properties to block. right?

    Hmm, the apple pathnodes are set bDirectional=True
    False is the default and I don't expect you're accomplishing anything by settng it true.

    View}ShowPaths in the editor and note the BLUE path segments. The editor is giving you feedback, alerting you that bots would seldom choose those segments. By slightly repositioning the nodes for those affected path segments you should be able to eliminate the blue.

    While reviewing the pathing, look for "bot frustration" situations. For example, at PathNode107 you have told the bots (via "ForcedPaths") to goto JumpSpot8. They can't -- a beam is in the way! The bots won't know that and they may stupidly keep trying over and over (shooting their translauncher disc toward the ForcedPaths jumpspot.

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  • replied
    Nice, but the lightning could have more diversity

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  • started a topic DM-MaxCargo [Pics] [Beta]

    DM-MaxCargo [Pics] [Beta]

    1. Name: Max Cargo
    2. Version: Beta 4c
    3. Compatibility: Unreal Tournament 2004 v3369

    Download Beta 4c (2,6 MiB)

    4. Description

    Abandoned goop production facility left in the cold.

    5. Comments

    Pending:
    - Some textures need scaling.
    - Some static meshes need termination (invisible faces are not obscured).
    - Music.
    - Naming zones/areas.
    - Look into high detail emitters.
    - Steam emitter by top lift area.

    6. Screen Shots

    6.1. Goop (Beta 4c)

    [screenshot]http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/unrealjecht/DM-MaxCargo-Beta4/Shot00441.jpg[/screenshot]

    6.2. Floor 2 - Main (Beta 4c)

    [screenshot]http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/unrealjecht/DM-MaxCargo-Beta4/Shot00447.jpg[/screenshot]

    6.3. Goop (Low) (Beta 4c)

    [screenshot]http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/unrealjecht/DM-MaxCargo-Beta4/Shot00451.jpg[/screenshot]

    7. Credits

    Level - rejecht

    7.1. Imported

    Sounds - snow melting - freesound.org contributer laurent

    7.2. Thanks

    - }TCP{Carnage
    - }TCP{m4ck3rz
    - }TCP{Snowbird

    8. Homepage

    rejecht's notes


    9. Download

    Download Beta 4c (2,6 MiB)

    9.1. Installation

    Unpack the archive.
    Copy the file from the Maps folder to C:\UT2004\Maps (typical path).
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