DM-Phoenix Final Beta now out!

[legacy-Yournan2000]

Sounds - no no... don't give them away, just make them ambient only. Look at Rankin (fixed edition rather ;-)) - there are sounds - a lot of them, but when we want to play it seriously, atmosphere must go away - we're switching ambient off (you can't do it in menus anyway, console command only). So your map WILL have atmosphere you want and we can play it without noise when we want. :-) It gives us choice.

I did not look at the way you put those sounds in level, but there is this possibility and it's the best one I think. Of course, there are maps where ambient on and off does not make difference... if I stay by Hourences' maps I can name Sae, Rrajigard, ... But I prefere Rankin style (fixed edition without thunder and with lift audiable always).

I'ii sort the sounds out then mate.

MsM

[legacy-virgo47]

Sounds - no no... don't give them away, just make them ambient only. Look at Rankin (fixed edition rather ;-)) - there are sounds - a lot of them, but when we want to play it seriously, atmosphere must go away - we're switching ambient off (you can't do it in menus anyway, console command only). So your map WILL have atmosphere you want and we can play it without noise when we want. :-) It gives us choice.

I did not look at the way you put those sounds in level, but there is this possibility and it's the best one I think. Of course, there are maps where ambient on and off does not make difference... if I stay by Hourences' maps I can name Sae, Rrajigard, ... But I prefere Rankin style (fixed edition without thunder and with lift audiable always).

[legacy-Yournan2000]

Just played through the final bet and found these:

Is this hole meant to be here ?
http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic14rx.jpg

Following two are floating pipes, other than that i think its good to go final.
http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic24hr.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic37jz.jpg

cheers mate, where is that hole? the pipes i'ii get rid off.

musilowski

cheers dude:up:

virgo47

i've swapped the flak & bio, but i can easily change them back again. As for the sounds i'ii leave those on, as a lot of people like them. However i will sort that out for you. Can you show me a pic of those meshs please. Yeah i forgot about the space thing. I have placed anitportals in the map, but haven't checked them out properly yet, so i'ii take a look and maybe use cull distances as well.

many thanks, final should be out by weekend if all goes to plan

MsM

[legacy-virgo47]

Last set of suggestions :-)))

- Don't change flak and bio... bio is too close to shock and that would be too powerfull combination (flak+shock = complementary weapons ;-)). And ... it is not farer anyway (farer by air distance don't matter ;-))... really, tried it. This layout really can work when I tried it. Keep it please.
- Ambient... off... still all those noise! Please, make all ambient sounds working only if ambient is on. Map should be quiet absolutely when ambient is off. Don't touch lift/jumppad sounds, they are needed of course.
- We've played it with friend, and it works well. Don't change weapons, just sounds. ;-)
- Last small things... on many places there are two wall meshes mirrored and they are overlaying... it looks wierd when I took a closer look because I can actualy "see" the other (invisible) side (of course, I see nothing ;-)). It's just a detail - no reall problem though. ;-)
- GOOD work... :-)

PS: I hosted game and my friend's UT2004 started to download map from my server although he had it. Changed name to something without spaces and it works. Avoid spaces, even in betas - I didn't know that they can cause this problem, but they can. ;-)

Edit: I forgot one thing... FPS are a little bit sub-par for me. Rankin is bigger level and runs much smoother. I checked it with rmode 1 and there are too many static meshes rendered out of sight - maybe some antiportals may help - but I'm not an expert. (Still not finished with my "test" map. :-)) But if you can fix it, you should.

[musilowski]

Wow. I love it... Maybe a tad too much clutter in places, but it's okay. Can't wait for the final.

:up:

[legacy-J112]

Just played through the final bet and found these:

Is this hole meant to be here ?
http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic14rx.jpg

Following two are floating pipes, other than that i think its good to go final.
http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic24hr.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic37jz.jpg

[legacy-Yournan2000]

Got it. Will give it a go

Edit: Well I gave it a run and I enjoyed it. I'm new to mapping, so I can't comment much on the overall layout of the map, but I did like that it had a lot of Z axis action, the lighting was good, and those glass areas were a nice touch too. I did notice that in the description of the map, there are a few grammatical errors which you might want to correct before your final release

Btw, how long did it take it you to create and how long have you been mapping in general?

Yeah i need to sort out the description, did the level preview work ok? Its not working on my machine for some reason. The map has taken about 2 months, but i haven't been working on it all the time. I've been mapping since UT2K3 came out, so thats about 3 years ago.

virgo47

Good point about the flak & r/l, best thing i can do is swap the bio with the flak. That way the flak is in the open & near the shock, making it a bit of risk to get. Its also a bit further away from the r/l as well.

thanks both for testing, i'm going to make a few final changes.

MsM

[legacy-virgo47]

OK, I did not test it thoroughly but the only thing that bothers me is rocket and flak a little bit close to each other (two similar weapons)... but if this is the only thing that's on my mind, it is good. :-) I like it quite a lot. :-)

As I noticed, jumppad sound was really missing. ;-) - Yeah - and that lifts are both GOOD. Shock lift is good (and no one should jump on it ;-)) and flak is JUST FINE - and I can now lift jump up up up... anywhere I want. :-)

This one (final one) will stay in my maplist.

[legacy-o_0]

Got it. Will give it a go

Edit: Well I gave it a run and I enjoyed it. I'm new to mapping, so I can't comment much on the overall layout of the map, but I did like that it had a lot of Z axis action, the lighting was good, and those glass areas were a nice touch too. I did notice that in the description of the map, there are a few grammatical errors which you might want to correct before your final release

Btw, how long did it take it you to create and how long have you been mapping in general?

[legacy-Yournan2000]

here download the latest:-

Final beta :- http://files.filefront.com/DM_Phoeni.../fileinfo.html

change log :-

* Tweaked lighting

* Removed big steps & replaced with ramp

* Moved mini health pack into red corner room

* Added sound to jump-pad

* Added general sound & music

* Sped up lift movements

* Added level preview

feedback again is appreciated. I'm looking mainly for anything which needs blocking volumes, also feedback on sounds.

MsM

[legacy-o_0]

yes the file it still up. Only myself has access to change it.

MsM

edit - just checked, d/l link is ok.

Hmm, well there doesn't seem to be any public servers to choose from. How come?

[legacy-Yournan2000]

Is the file still up, because I can't seem to dl it

yes the file it still up. Only myself has access to change it.

MsM

edit - just checked, d/l link is ok.

[legacy-o_0]

Is the file still up, because I can't seem to dl it

[legacy-Yournan2000]

I just tried it, with Ballistic Weapons, and it rocks. :up:
But there are stairs I noticed that are huge, it looks like each step is bigger than my character. :bulb:

lol , i'ii replace with ramp and move the pack of mini health by the mini gun ammo.

thanks

MsM

[Bjossi]

I just tried it, with Ballistic Weapons, and it rocks. :up:
But there are stairs I noticed that are huge, it looks like each step is bigger than my character. :bulb: