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    Spare a thought for the developers this Christmas

    http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=5462

    EA_Spouse's blog http://www.livejournal.com/users/ea_spouse/

    "It's not JUST EA who is doing this..."

    #2
    Welcome to the real world. I've worked 7 days a week 12 hours a day for 3 months straight before (quite a few times) and I know a lot of other people who have as well. If its that bad he should find another job. She should be *****ing to her husband (if this is actually real) not the company he works for. He's the one making the choice to stay there.

    My Sympathy goes to the millions of people who got laid off last year and still can't find a job.

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      #3
      Originally posted by [NBS]Flak
      Welcome to the real world. I've worked 7 days a week 12 hours a day for 3 months straight before (quite a few times) and I know a lot of other people who have as well. If its that bad he should find another job. She should be *****ing to her husband (if this is actually real) not the company he works for. He's the one making the choice to stay there.
      Welcome to the real world? I've been there for years

      Does your 'work experiences' somehow negate the plight of these people? And if you are concerned about the validity of this read some of the 1000s of replies from others in the industry. I'm not directly attached to this industry, but I think it's not even an exageration and high time they got unionised (They've been thretening to do it for YEARS now IIRC)...

      /and I thought you had me on ignore? Oh and fingers crossed with your new servers when you get them back online (or arethey already?)

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        #4
        Originally posted by [NBS]Flak
        Welcome to the real world. I've worked 7 days a week 12 hours a day for 3 months straight before (quite a few times) and I know a lot of other people who have as well. If its that bad he should find another job. She should be *****ing to her husband (if this is actually real) not the company he works for. He's the one making the choice to stay there.

        My Sympathy goes to the millions of people who got laid off last year and still can't find a job.


        +1

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          #5
          Originally posted by [NBS]Flak
          My Sympathy goes to the millions of people who got laid off last year and still can't find a job.
          This might be one of the reasons why this guy is still working there...

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            #6
            It didn't work, people quoted you and I had to read your posts anyway.

            Its hardly a plight. They are working. If they don't like working there they are free to leave. LOTS of people work 7 days a week. Its their choice. And like I said.. If its even true. Could just be a disgruntled ex employee getting his ya yas out or someone with a vendetta against ea.

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              #7
              Originally posted by [NBS]Flak
              Its hardly a plight. They are working. If they don't like working there they are free to leave.
              Do you take a similar view to the 'Nike slaves' in Asia who make our trainers (Not that you wear Nike trainers - but you get my point) and World Cup footballs in sweat-shops for 10+ hours a day for pennies? Or the 'Dell IT call center employee' who earns 1/10 of an American IT support caller that got offshored creating this million-unemployed you can sympathise with?

              As long as they are working, it's OK yes?

              Just wanted to raise some awareness to the people who might complain because the date (promised by some manager/marketing team) to their latest game slipped because the developers had to pull 80 hour weeks for the last 6 months to come CLOSE, and then they complain because the code has bugs... That's all..

              Cool Flak... Don't spare a thought for them... You've had to work hard in your life, so their problems are inconsequential.

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                #8
                LOL

                Yes, I am just so unsympathetic.

                The difference between them and the "nike slaves" is they dont have much of a choice.

                That's forced labor, this is not. He is free to go whenever he wants.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by [NBS]Flak
                  The difference between them and the "nike slaves" is they dont have much of a choice.
                  That and their wages...

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by -Loric-
                    That and their wages...
                    I wrote out a big old reply to you and Flak, Loric. But really, I can't be ***** to argue with you.

                    You think this guy is just being pathetic or this problem doesn't exist or something, fine...

                    Edit. Sorry, just to add for everyone else. If you want to read a more sensible and level headed discusion about this (They allow funny too, but not stupid and troll posts) I might direct you to http://games.slashdot.org/games/04/11/11/0031259.shtml

                    This should provide you with enough information to establish it's validity or not.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by djini_hades
                      I wrote out a big old reply to you and Flak, Loric. But really, I can't be ***** to argue with you.

                      You think this guy is just being pathetic or this problem doesn't exist or something, fine...
                      You compared the person to a Nike slave in Asia. I somehow doubt your average EA employee is a child, working their fingers to the bone for a pittance to save their starving younger siblings despite their own age whilst living in fear of the very diseases that already orphaned them

                      Your original post may stand, but the comparison was a pretty daft one.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by M0rtus
                        You compared the person to a Nike slave in Asia. I somehow doubt your average EA employee is a child, working their fingers to the bone for a pittance to save their starving younger siblings despite their own age whilst living in fear of the very diseases that already orphaned them

                        Your original post may stand, but the comparison was a pretty daft one.
                        +1:up:
                        I agree, daft post. I'm not the right one to try to defend this from the more quick-whitted flak, which is why I'm not going to bother. I ask that you go to http://games.slashdot.org/games/04/11/11/0031259.shtml and read the thoughts (both for and against) of those actually in the business, and who can articulate this with better examples than me.

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                          #13
                          Ok Dji, next time you post something debatable, I'll be sure to agree with you since you can't be "*****" to discuss it anyway.

                          You seem to think this is a personal attack on you.

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                            #14
                            wow, you are comparing someone who is forced to work in slave conditions, to someone who can leave whenever he sees fit? Come on now.

                            If this is such a big problem, then he should quit and find something else to fit his lifestyle more. He have to have known what he was signing up for when he took the job. If you work at McDonalds, you know going in that you'll be spattered with fry grease and make no money. If you would developing games, you know what is going to happen with it. With any job that involves a salary, you are working far harder then anyone working hourly and you know that also.

                            If he truely loves what he is doing, then there is no problem as he should be happy to do it. His wife however, has no place to go out and try to bash the company he works for. If she has a problem, then she needs to sit down with her husband and have a serious talk about their marrage and what they need to do to make things better.

                            As far as being unionised, i have been in a union and they do work. If that is something that people feel they need to do, then more power to them. But just a warning, don't complain that your favorite game won't be released on time because the devs can't work any more. And what would the gaming world do if there was a strike? OMG, the street would be overun with people that haven't seen the sun in a year.

                            No pun intended, but long and stressful hours are part of the game. If you don't like it, then leave. I work a job where i am on call 24-7. I get called into work at 3am often. Do i like it? No. But i do understand that it is part of that job, so i do it, without whining. And when it comes to the point that i no longer like my job, then i will find something else. Happyness is the key in this life, if you are not happy, find something that will make you so. That includes if you are a wife whos husband works for a company that demands a lot.

                            Off the topin at hand, why is it that you always seem to want to fight with everyone on these forums? In **** near every thread you try to incite some sort of war. This thread could have been a good one, where good discussion could have taken place. Now it will end up being closed by the first mod that sees it.

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                              #15
                              times like these you gota pity the poor mcdonalds worker

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