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    #31
    Originally posted by Prisoner1138
    just because an END USER can use winamp for free, does not mean that a company can integrate it into their software for free.
    That's correct.

    Good job I'm not suggesting they integrate it then, huh?

    The ability for the game to mute winamp when VoIP conversations are happening, and/or make winamp move to the next/last track... all the little functions like that can be used in UT without needing any licensing or integration or any **** like that.

    No mixing of code, nothing..

    Just a few calls to winamp through the DDE interface. Something which is common to all versions of windows.

    mIRC plugins use it quite a lot. It can all be wrapped into a single file.

    Anyone got any valid points yet?

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      #32
      Originally posted by TheGreatFoo
      That's correct.

      Good job I'm not suggesting they integrate it then, huh?

      The ability for the game to mute winamp when VoIP conversations are happening, and/or make winamp move to the next/last track... all the little functions like that can be used in UT without needing any licensing or integration or any **** like that.

      No mixing of code, nothing..

      Just a few calls to winamp through the DDE interface. Something which is common to all versions of windows.

      mIRC plugins use it quite a lot. It can all be wrapped into a single file.

      Anyone got any valid points yet?
      Maybe you are right and Epic people are wrong, but it doesn't matter because they'll stick to their own agenda.

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        #33
        Originally posted by EternalNoob
        Maybe you are right and Epic people are wrong, but it doesn't matter because they'll stick to their own agenda.
        That's very true.

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          #34
          Originally posted by TheGreatFoo

          I thought the same thing, until I tried voice chat and discovered my music was muffling the speech.
          In-game player mutes when speech is active. This is all I really want from winamp support.
          All you really need to do is adjust the VOIP volume so that you can hear it while music is playing. That's what I did, and I actually prefer it that way because I don't like having my music interrupted.


          But if you want the feature, I think there is a relatively easy way to add it.

          Code:
          on VOIP start press X key combination; on VOIP end press X key combination
          Where 'X key combination' is the global hotkey associated with pause, or mute if you prefer, in Winamp. Admittedly, I don't know the first thing about coding, but I think something like this would work as an alias added to your UT2004 file.

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            #35
            Originally posted by TheGreatFoo
            That's very true.
            It's good to poke them a bit once in a while. Might get you banned from the forums, but it might also make them do something that'll benefit a large protion of the community...

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              #36
              I use one of these

              to control the media player of my choise in game when I want music.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Jefe
                All you really need to do is adjust the VOIP volume so that you can hear it while music is playing. That's what I did, and I actually prefer it that way because I don't like having my music interrupted.


                But if you want the feature, I think there is a relatively easy way to add it.

                Code:
                on VOIP start press X key combination; on VOIP end press X key combination
                Where 'X key combination' is the global hotkey associated with pause, or mute if you prefer, in Winamp. Admittedly, I don't know the first thing about coding, but I think something like this would work as an alias added to your UT2004 file.
                Woah. If this works, I completely eat my words.

                So I add this to the alias' section of my ini file, and in winamp set up a key combination to mute the music...

                I thought alias' had to be bound to keys?

                Anyway, I'm gonna go try it. Ingenious.

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                  #38
                  The builtin OGG player is good as it is
                  it can play both OGG (DUH!!) and MP3 (dunno about WMV's tho)

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by TheGreatFoo
                    That's correct.

                    Good job I'm not suggesting they integrate it then, huh?

                    The ability for the game to mute winamp when VoIP conversations are happening, and/or make winamp move to the next/last track... all the little functions like that can be used in UT without needing any licensing or integration or any **** like that.

                    No mixing of code, nothing..

                    Just a few calls to winamp through the DDE interface. Something which is common to all versions of windows.

                    mIRC plugins use it quite a lot. It can all be wrapped into a single file.

                    Anyone got any valid points yet?
                    so then why did you post simply to make the obvious statement that winamp is free, like we all didnt know this already?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by TheGreatFoo


                      Good job I'm not suggesting they integrate it then, huh?
                      That's EXACTLY what you suggested in your first post. If you're going be 'Master Debator' you're going to have to learn not to change your positon in the middle of a 'debate.'

                      Woah. If this works, I completely eat my words.

                      So I add this to the alias' section of my ini file, and in winamp set up a key combination to mute the music...

                      I thought alias' had to be bound to keys?

                      Anyway, I'm gonna go try it. Ingenious
                      I doubt it will, since I have no idea what the actual command would be. Someone who knows more about it than I do would be able to get something like that to work easily, I think.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by xQx
                        I use one of these

                        to control the media player of my choise in game when I want music.
                        You and I both know that's got nothing to do with VoIP muting, Q

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Jefe
                          That's EXACTLY what you suggested in your first post. If you're going be 'Master Debator' you're going to have to learn not to change your positon in the middle of a 'debate.'
                          Wrong. Quote from first post:

                          Originally posted by TheGreatFoo
                          I've suggested this briefly before now, but wouldn't it be great if the game could interface with winamp, instead of just having its own built-in music player.
                          Dont drag this off into irrelevent squabbling. Even on a matter of semantecs, you dont have a case.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Prisoner1138
                            so then why did you post simply to make the obvious statement that winamp is free, like we all didnt know this already?
                            Because it's free to the end user. Meaning if epic supported it they arent showing support for a particular commercial product.... and gamers wouldn't have to pay for winamp.

                            What's not clear.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by TheGreatFoo
                              You and I both know that's got nothing to do with VoIP muting, Q
                              true but it does let me use my own playlists skip tracks/pause etc while in game. Also lets me use a player that takes advantage of the full features of my sound card.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Jefe
                                I doubt it will, since I have no idea what the actual command would be. Someone who knows more about it than I do would be able to get something like that to work easily, I think.
                                After looking at it for a few more seconds, your suggested versions means I'd have to press a key when someone else sent a VoIP transfer to me.

                                Unfortunately, I was looking for something automatic. Your idea WOULD work if there was some 'onVoipStart' and 'onVoipEnd' actions available in the ini files

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