mouse smoothing strength and mouse accel. threshold

[[LX7][Dezoris]]

I've finally achieved nirvana with my UT2004 input!
I use 2.0 mouse sens with a 3.5 mouse accel. Although it definitely isn't necessary for most people, it does provide a world of difference for those of us that need to tweak a little more based on our movement/attack preferences. In addition to that, I play with a Logitech trackball, so it's all the more crucial to me! =)

Now the only problem is getting that setting converted into the hellacious UT3 interface =(.

[legacy-Anomalie]

How do I make UT2k4 use WinXP mouse accel with default mouse drivers? If you can't, are there any other drivers for ball mice that work? >_<

[Plumb_Drumb]

lmao^

Actually, Mouse Smoothing does absolutely nothing on my machine.

[legacy-Total_Hate]

Originally posted by Logy
Criminy. You know, you could just drink a pint of cheap gin and get the same effect, with the bonus side effect of being 90% more attractive to the opposite sex (in your mind).

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

[Logy]

Originally posted by Monkey_Reloaded
I tried maxing both of the settings, and I love it...

Criminy. You know, you could just drink a pint of cheap gin and get the same effect, with the bonus side effect of being 90% more attractive to the opposite sex (in your mind).

[legacy-chimbaktu]

i have acceleration at 10.0 so that i can do some quick whip around flaks. and mouse sens x axis is at 1.1, and y axis at 1.75. with an mx510. FOV is at 95

[legacy-Monkey_Reloaded]

I tried maxing both of the settings, and I love it... My mouse is THAT crappy.

While I was looking for the manufacturer on the bottom, all it says is "MOUSE", some chinese characters mixed in with the serial number, the FCC standards, and "CE":bulb:

[Logy]

Acceleration is a tool of the Devil, and smoothing is a tool of... er, Barbara Streisand, I guess.

Both are pure evil.

[legacy-WosP]

Smoothing isnt that bad boksha , its for the people who dont have a good mouse but want to do 180 with low sensitivity .

Smoothing gives mouse lag ? I never had mouselag when I had smoothing on .

[legacy-Abilio_KID]

Plumb_Drumb, I have those at 1.0 for so long ago. Just remember that putting them down reduces mouse sensibility in the game. In my case if I let them at the default values then my mouse ingame is way too fast because I have it at maximum in Windows.
Messing with these settings helps with mouse jumping from one point to another instead of going smoothly. However, with an MX, at least the MX510, this skipping isn't there. Apparently the MX510 drivers, when set to 800dpi make the mouse always smooth.

Oh, try to change those values and then put mouse acceleration ingame at 100%. Lol, it will move like 0.0000001 pixels

[Boksha]

Originally posted by WosP
Set accel to 0 and smoothing high if you have a bad mouse , but there is no use for accel realy.

I'd never turn smoothing on. Having no mouselag is more important than having a false feeling of a high mouse resolution.

[Plumb_Drumb]

Originally posted by Vive_le_Quebec
Well, how do you remove that darn stuttering then?

Does it have anything to do with my cheap Logitech mouse? I mean, if it has anything to do with the dpi or whatever it's called?

ah yes, I had this problem back in UT2k3, and some kind fellow helped me out. I will help you out too. (it's simple and should be in the GUI, but it aint):

Go into your User.ini, and look for these two lines:

MouseX=Count bXAxis | Axis aMouseX Speed=2.0
MouseY=Count bYAxis | Axis aMouseY Speed=2.0

change the values to say ".05" (or "1.0", but "0.5" is better)
So, they would look like this:

MouseX=Count bXAxis | Axis aMouseX Speed=0.5
MouseY=Count bYAxis | Axis aMouseY Speed=0.5

Then change your basic mouse sensitivity until you get the turning speed you like. (It will need to be higher than before after you tweak the above setting)

With this setting tweaked, you should be able to get the sensitivity you like, but with much more precise (less skippy) crosshair control. Like it should be.

Turn off mouse smoothing and mouse acceleration in the game too.

This solved everything problem I had with mouse movement.
Before this I was messing with acceleration, smoothing, mouse driver settings etc... none of that helped. (in fact 2k4 mouse acceleration seems to be binary, or in other words, there's no graduation... just slow or fast, so it sucked).

Let us know if this works for you. I hope it does.

[legacy-WosP]

Set accel to 0 and smoothing high if you have a bad mouse , but there is no use for accel realy .

I got accel and smoothing both turned off , no need for them and I like it without them .

[legacy-LagMasterSam]

It definitely affects in game mouse acceleration, at least it does on my computer. When I formatted and reinstalled my computer the last time, I forgot that I had disabled WinXP mouse acceleration before the format. As soon as I started up a match in instant action I could feel the acceleration.

Also, disabling pointer precision does not disable WinXP mouse acceleration on my computer. I tried doing that before fixing the registry and there was still noticeable in-game mouse acceleration.

I guess results vary from computer to computer though

[Boksha]

Originally posted by 3ggSuckingLeech
I'm still wondering why Boksha said to set the smoothing to zero rather than disabling it...

The last time I ever saw the mouse smoothing in the menus was back when the game was released. I immediatly turned everything to off back then.

Originally posted by LagMasterSam
I personally like to completely disable mouse acceleration. If you are using WinXP and you want to totally remove mouse acceleration you'll need to see this site.

http://www.gw2k.co.uk/Windows-Guides...ration-Fix.php

If you have never disabled WinXP mouse acceleration it can take some getting used to. However, this makes the mouse far more responsive from my experience.

I've always wondered about this fix. First off, in UT2k4 it's completely unnecessary; if you're using the default mouse drivers, UT2k4 always disables the WinXP mouse acceleration regardless. (try it; your WinXP mouse settings don't influence the movement of the mouse in-game at all, also you end up with the exact same cm/360 turn, independant of the speed you move your mouse at)
Second off you don't need a registry file to disable acceleration. Just go into the Control Panel, click Mouse, go to the Pointer Options tab and turn off Enhance Pointer Precision. This completely disables WinXP's mouse acceleration. (I've confirmed this both by measuring the distance I have to move my mouse to go from the left to the right on the desktop, and inside of the Serious Sam 2 demo, which uses your WinXP settings in-game)
All in all I have no idea what that page is talking about when it says "It seems that even without pointer precision disabled, the mouse under XP is still influenced by an acceleration curve". As far as I can tell: not true.