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  • "Please insert the original disc instead of a backup" - ???

    Bought UT2K4 DVD SE for $42.39

    I expect it to work without a hitch. However, after a successful install, I launch the game. This is what I see:

    "Please insert the original disc instead of a backup. See ww.securom.com/copy for more details."

    WTF is this crap? I paid so much for a game and this is the crap I get? Not to mention it took me 6 tries to get it installed. 1st I made sure my dvdrom had the latest firmware...even though other apps like windows xp and office installed without a hitch. Then I turned off write cache thinking it would help..nope. Then I copied the DVD to disk and did an install that way...it keeps telling me my media is dirty. After other attempts, I finally went into safe mode to install. It installed fine with a successful installation message, but it did give me a windows installer error. I ignored it and booted into windows normal mode. Ran the game and got the crappy message above. Someone tell me how to fix this problem :cry:

    Atari, or Epic, or whoever needs to get this sh1t fixed! If the DVD SE copies are bad...fine, fix it and send out new ones to their customers. If not, I see a class action lawsuit coming their way!

  • #2
    You may have to use a "no CD" crack to get the game to work. I know we shouldn't have to resort to measures like that to get a game we PAID for to work, but that's what I had to do. I won't post a direct link to a no CD crack here but it shouldn't be too hard to find one.

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    • #3
      I'm not 100% sure of this one, but when I first installed the game, and ran it for the first time, I got the same thing. At the time it sounded like it was as issue with my drive, as it struggled to reach top speed before the disc was read.

      I had seen the problem before with other games in that while the drive is winding up to full speed (high speed CD/DVD drives) the software tries to access the disc and times out thinking it is an invalid disc, or a non-existent disc since it can't get any data yet (no data available until drive reaches full speed).

      As for a resolution, I am unsure, as I haven't had a problem since. Although, on my second attempt, the drive had reached it's full speed, and I ran the game again while the drive was still at speed. I haven't had to do this since, and am unsure if this was even what resolved the issue.

      Good luck.

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      • #4
        Exit ALL non-essential items in your taskbar. For me, that would be Avantbrowser, MSN messenger, Steam, and xFire. It always works for me after exiting those taskbar programs, but it has that error before hand.

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        • #5
          Little story. Had trouble running Grandprix 4 on another computer , it wouldn't start after the safedisc /macrovision check/screen happened. Now the CD was in my Lite-on CDRW so I put in another CD drive and the game now runs perfectly as long as the GP4 CD is in that drive.

          If you can, try another CD drive

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          • #6
            Originally posted by oldman
            Little story. Had trouble running Grandprix 4 on another computer , it wouldn't start after the safedisc /macrovision check/screen happened. Now the CD was in my Lite-on CDRW so I put in another CD drive and the game now runs perfectly as long as the GP4 CD is in that drive.

            If you can, try another CD drive
            I only have one dvd player...this bites!

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            • #7
              Well, here's what I did to get it to work FINALLY! fyi, YMMV, so don't come complaining to me if this doesn't work

              I had to uninstall nero burning rom and disable/stop/kill all symantec antivirus apps/processes

              which one did the fix I cannot say...but either one is ghey! if the latter worked...what is atari/epic trying to install/hide on my comp that I had to disable a major security feature in order to install their stupid game? I hope we don't all become pulsing zombies...laff.

              I'm not trying to cause a big conspiracy thing, it's just that I've installed about a hundred games (full and retail). And not one have I ever had to disable my anti-virus program....what's next? Anyways, I'm logging EVERYTHING on my firewall...just in case

              I'm just glad the game is working now...after I wasted half of my Sunday LOL. Now I can actually enjoy my $43 game :sour:

              Shame on you atari/epic!

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              • #8
                My boyfriend runs Norton Antivirus (Corporate edition), and he does not have problems with UT2k4. Chances are it was an issue with Nero.

                Sounds like Epic/Atari is assuming that you're a criminal because you have Nero installed.

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                • #9
                  I have nero installed and have no problems installing or running this game. I have received this error when I tried to run the game with a copy of the dvd I had made. But with the original dvd it works great. Now I want to figure how to make a copy so I don't chance destroying the original. Which is what happened to my Rallisport challenge. Had to buy a whole new game, cheaper than getting a replacement disk from M$.

                  Also tried making an Image with alcohol 120% without success-same error.

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                  • #10
                    Hmm..I run Symantec Antivirus Enterprise Edition...but nero makes more sense. In either case, that is the most stupid thing I've ever heard! I don't even have a DVD burner...not to mention the DVD burner add on for nero. If that's the case I wish Epic/Atari would've hired better programmers....to check and see if the pirating software/hardware actually exists on the machine! It's not that hard to do...a simple registry query would tell ALL!

                    If they want to stop piracy...why don't they pass out RSA tokens that change code every minute! That way, if a gamer wants to play online, he/she would have to use the RSA token to authenticate to a valid master server in order to play

                    Ooh, that's a damn good idea! Imma gonna patent that and sell it to gaming companies! I'll be a millionaire! Let it be known that I came up with this idea 1st and no one can profit from it!

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                    • #11
                      Getacrack!!

                      Securom is on 90% of the games we buy. However, there is a serious bug with it on the UT2K4 DVD se. And from what i've read on these boards in the last few days, many other people have had similar problems with other games. For all you people having this problem there is only ONE guaranteed fix. Goto gamecopyworld or any P2P network and download a fixed .exe. This removes the CD check from the game executable and as an added bonus you do not have to insert your dvd everytime you play. (note: on original unreal an unreal tournament you never had to insert your cd by default; there was no cd check built in to the game) Hopefully Epic can fix this in a patch otherwise us lucky DVD owners will have to seek out a new crack everytime we update our versions of the game. That would be a serious pain in the arse!!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Getacrack!!

                        Originally posted by WSmith84
                        Securom is on 90% of the games we buy. However, there is a serious bug with it on the UT2K4 DVD se. And from what i've read on these boards in the last few days, many other people have had similar problems with other games. For all you people having this problem there is only ONE guaranteed fix. Goto gamecopyworld or any P2P network and download a fixed .exe. This removes the CD check from the game executable and as an added bonus you do not have to insert your dvd everytime you play. (note: on original unreal an unreal tournament you never had to insert your cd by default; there was no cd check built in to the game) Hopefully Epic can fix this in a patch otherwise us lucky DVD owners will have to seek out a new crack everytime we update our versions of the game. That would be a serious pain in the arse!!
                        That's not an option for me...I want to be legit! I don't want any excuses when I pwn someone's @ss and they turn around and accuse me of cheating through a hacked version. Besides, why should I run through hoops just to get a game installed? It should be a seamless process...cut and dry. I've never installed a program that requires EVERYTHING turned off..what's the point of having a computer? I'm sure there are plenty of n00by computer users out there that have no clue how to change their DVD from DMA to PIO mode...etc. Atari/epic f*cked up, they have no clue about quality control...this is their fault, plain and simple.

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                        • #13
                          It seems that this is not a problem with the SE, but with the normal DVD-version, too.

                          I get the same error with the UT2004_DVDGERMAN. So I have to ask myself, why do I buy software in the first place?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Re: Getacrack!!

                            Originally posted by UTPLAYER
                            That's not an option for me...I want to be legit! I don't want any excuses when I pwn someone's @ss and they turn around and accuse me of cheating through a hacked version. Besides, why should I run through hoops just to get a game installed? It should be a seamless process...cut and dry. I've never installed a program that requires EVERYTHING turned off..what's the point of having a computer? I'm sure there are plenty of n00by computer users out there that have no clue how to change their DVD from DMA to PIO mode...etc. Atari/epic f*cked up, they have no clue about quality control...this is their fault, plain and simple.
                            All i am offering is a way for people top play the game they spent their money on! If they want to be legit and not play the game they bought then kudos to them. A fixed exe in no way hacks the game for cheating purposes, nor has a fixed exe ever done that to a game. A player stills needs a legit cd key to paly online. It simply removes the SECUROM garbage. I am a perfect example, i use a fixed exe and i get owned on a fairly consistent basis. I don't buy the whole "i want to be legit claim" anyway. Shipping a video game that ends up accusing its rightful licensed owner of using a pirated version is hardly a legit way to do business. Please do not let ATARI or Epic use you as their copyrights protection guinea pig. If you bought the game then you should use whatever tools are available to you to get that game to work.

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                            • #15
                              I agree with you, but I do stand by my decision...

                              if memory serves me correct, it took epic a few patches before they came out with the no-cd patch

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