Assign certain mutators to certain maps

[legacy-Devilshotrod]

I've posted a link over at the unreal admin page but no one has responded about this.

How can I assign certain mutators to always be active on certain maps?

thanks,
DHR

[legacy-Sir Spankalot]

you'd do that by describing the mutator[s] you want on the map's line in your UT2004.ini file.

Maps=DM-DesertIsle?Game=XGame.xDeathMatch?mutator=XGame.Mu tQuadJump,UTClassic.MutUseSniper,Onslaught.MutOnsl aughtWeapons?minplayers=6?numBots=6?GoalScore=

now every time DesertIsle loads it'll do so with Quad Jump, Sniper Rifle and Onslaught weapons

[legacy-Devilshotrod]

Under what heading/section in my ini would I describe those boards that way? Can you post just a little example, because I can't find anything like that in my server's ini. I'm running a listen server if that makes a dif.
Thanks for the help.
DHR

[legacy-sargon]

Here is mine..

[XInterface.MapListDeathMatch]
MapNum=0
Maps=DM-1on1-Albatross
Maps=DM-1on1-Crash
Maps=DM-1on1-Desolation
Maps=DM-1on1-Idoma
Maps=DM-1on1-Irondust
Maps=DM-1on1-Mixer
Maps=DM-1on1-Roughinery
Maps=DM-1on1-Serpentine
Maps=DM-1on1-Spirit
Maps=DM-1on1-Squader
Maps=DM-1on1-Trite
Maps=DM-TrainingDay
Maps=DM-Sulphur
Maps=DM-Sewer
Maps=DM-Rustatorium
Maps=DM-Rrajigar
Maps=DM-Reliquary
Maps=DM-Rankin
Maps=DM-Plunge
Maps=DM-Phobos2
Maps=DM-Oceanic
Maps=DM-Morpheus3
Maps=DM-MokumX-1on1
Maps=DM-MindGames2
Maps=DM-Metallurgy
Maps=DM-PC-Room][-2K4?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJump.Mut InfiniteJump
Maps=DM-MorgueDD?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJum p.MutInfiniteJump
Maps=DM-MistyMountain2-HF2?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJump.Mut InfiniteJump
Maps=DM-MasterBathv2K4?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,Infin iteJump.MutInfiniteJump
Maps=DM-MPC-THE-FAMILYROOM?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJ ump.MutInfiniteJump
Maps=DM-LoungeDD?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJum p.MutInfiniteJump
Maps=DM-LivingRoomDD2K4?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,Infi niteJump.MutInfiniteJump
Maps=DM-Kitchen[JFF]2K4?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJump.Mut InfiniteJump
Maps=DM-INV-Sandstorm-HF2?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJump.Mut InfiniteJump
Maps=DM-HomeTheaterDD?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,Infini teJump.MutInfiniteJump
Maps=DM-DogTown-2k4?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJump.Mut InfiniteJump
Maps=DM-BedTimeDD?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJu mp.MutInfiniteJump
Maps=DM-BathroomDow2K4?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,Infin iteJump.MutInfiniteJump
Maps=DM-zX-Gallery?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJump .MutInfiniteJump
Maps=DM-sHok-RestRM2k4?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJu mp.MutInfiniteJump
Maps=DM-sHoK-Saloon2k4?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJu mp.MutInfiniteJump
Maps=DM-sHoK-PingPong]I[2k4?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJump.Mut InfiniteJump
Maps=DM-sHoK-DormRM2k4?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJu mp.MutInfiniteJump
Maps=DM-sHoK-Diner][2k4?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJump.Mut InfiniteJump
Maps=DM-sHoK-ChildsPlay-2k4?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJump.Mut InfiniteJump
Maps=DM-sHoK-BackYard-VH?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJump.MutI nfiniteJump
Maps=DM-sHoK-Attic][2k4?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJump.Mut InfiniteJump
Maps=DM-[IFC]LockerRoom-2K4?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJump.Mut InfiniteJump
Maps=DM-[IFC]-18thHole-2K4?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJump.Mut InfiniteJump
Maps=DM-[DaTs]BackYard?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJum p.MutInfiniteJump
Maps=DM-ZeitKind2K4Pro?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,Infin iteJump.MutInfiniteJump
Maps=DM-WaitingRoomDD2K4?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,Inf initeJump.MutInfiniteJump
Maps=DM-TokaraForest?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,Infinit eJump.MutInfiniteJump
Maps=DM-TVStore-2k4?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav,InfiniteJump.Mut InfiniteJump
Maps=DM-Liandri2k4
Maps=DM-Leviathan
Maps=DM-Junkyard
Maps=DM-IronDeity
Maps=DM-Insidious
Maps=DM-Injector
Maps=DM-Inferno
Maps=DM-Icetomb
Maps=DM-HyperBlast2
Maps=DM-Goose2k4
Maps=DM-Goliath
Maps=DM-Gestalt
Maps=DM-Gael
Maps=DM-Flux2
Maps=DM-FlightUnleashed
Maps=DM-DesertIsle
Maps=DM-Deck17
Maps=DM-DE-Osiris2
Maps=DM-DE-Ironic
Maps=DM-DE-Grendelkeep
Maps=DM-Curse4
Maps=DM-Corrugation
Maps=DM-Compressed
Maps=DM-Challenge
Maps=DM-Asbestos
Maps=DM-Antalus
Maps=DM-1on1-GlasHouse
Maps=DM-(GU)Tmr-V-Arena

[legacy-Sir Spankalot]

Right.

What sargon said.

[legacy-Devilshotrod]

Ok, I must be missing something else. I have mapvote running on my listen server, so i don't know if that is affecting why the mutators are not working. I am using the "built-in" mapvote, not ut2vote.

My server's ini looks like this:

[XInterface.MapListDeathMatch]
MapNum=0
Maps=DM-1on1-Albatross
Maps=DM-1on1-Alpu2
Maps=DM-1on1-Crash?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav
...

[xVoting.DefaultMapListLoader]
bUseMapList=False
MapNamePrefixes=

But when I play the 1on1 Crash board there is NO low grav. Any more ideas? I will gladly post any part of my server ini.
Thanks, really want to get this working.
DHR

[legacy-sargon]

Originally posted by Devilshotrod
Ok, I must be missing something else. I have mapvote running on my listen server, so i don't know if that is affecting why the mutators are not working. I am using the "built-in" mapvote, not ut2vote.

My server's ini looks like this:

[XInterface.MapListDeathMatch]
MapNum=0
Maps=DM-1on1-Albatross
Maps=DM-1on1-Alpu2
Maps=DM-1on1-Crash?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav
...

[xVoting.DefaultMapListLoader]
bUseMapList=False
MapNamePrefixes=

But when I play the 1on1 Crash board there is NO low grav. Any more ideas? I will gladly post any part of my server ini.
Thanks, really want to get this working.
DHR

as far as I know you have to use bUseMapList=True.

Send me your sever.ini without passwords to sargon@odclan.org and I'll look at it tomorrow and send it back with the changes you need.

I'm calling it a night..

[legacy-MaxPower]

I don't know if what you want to do will ever work... But one thing is sure, you must definitely change the map list. [XInterface.MapListDeathMatch] is for Instant Action and has no effect for online play. You must also set bUseMapList=True for this to work.

Here's the maplist on my server for DeathMatch:

[DefaultDM MaplistRecord]
DefaultTitle=Default DM
DefaultGameType=XGame.xDeathMatch
DefaultActive=0
DefaultMaps=DM-CBP2-Achilles
DefaultMaps=DM-CBP2-Archipelago
DefaultMaps=DM-CBP2-Azures
DefaultMaps=DM-CBP2-Griffin
DefaultMaps=DM-CBP2-Kadath
DefaultMaps=DM-CBP2-Khrono
DefaultMaps=DM-CBP2-Masurao
DefaultMaps=DM-CBP2-Reconstruct
DefaultMaps=DM-CBP2-Summit
DefaultMaps=DM-CBP2-TelMecoMEX

You can create such map list for all gametypes with UT2004 WebAdmin.

[legacy-sargon]

Originally posted by MaxPower
I don't know if what you want to do will ever work... But one thing is sure, you must definitely change the map list. [XInterface.MapListDeathMatch] is for Instant Action and has no effect for online play. You must also set bUseMapList=True for this to work.

Here's the maplist on my server for DeathMatch:

[DefaultDM MaplistRecord]
DefaultTitle=Default DM
DefaultGameType=XGame.xDeathMatch
DefaultActive=0
DefaultMaps=DM-CBP2-Achilles
DefaultMaps=DM-CBP2-Archipelago
DefaultMaps=DM-CBP2-Azures
DefaultMaps=DM-CBP2-Griffin
DefaultMaps=DM-CBP2-Kadath
DefaultMaps=DM-CBP2-Khrono
DefaultMaps=DM-CBP2-Masurao
DefaultMaps=DM-CBP2-Reconstruct
DefaultMaps=DM-CBP2-Summit
DefaultMaps=DM-CBP2-TelMecoMEX

You can create such map list for all gametypes with UT2004 WebAdmin.

Not true, you need both, it does have an effect on online play, I use it for three servers and it allows me to select the mutators for each map.

[legacy-Sir Spankalot]

If that map comes up as a normal function of map rotation, it should load with all listed mutators.

If you vote for it, it'll load with nothing.

I've been running a variable game type, mutating, per-map score goal, bot-populated server since UT2003 came out and I've never seen bUseMapList in my UT200*.ini

What Devilshotrod has pasted below is exactly what I'd have him do.

[XInterface.MapListDeathMatch]
MapNum=0
Maps=DM-1on1-Albatross
Maps=DM-1on1-Alpu2
Maps=DM-1on1-Crash?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav

Try removing the voting for a while and let the maps cycle normally. See what happens.

Wait, might it make a difference if I'm talking about the Linux stand alone? Wait, I don't see bUseMapList in my Windows ini either. Where'd you get that?

[legacy-Devilshotrod]

I got it by enabling the "built-in" mapvote, and by doing so here are some of the sections created in my ini:

[xVoting.xVotingHandler]
VoteTimeLimit=120
ScoreBoardDelay=2
bAutoOpen=False
MidGameVotePercent=50
bScoreMode=True
bAccumulationMode=False
bEliminationMode=False
MinMapCount=2
MapVoteHistoryType=xVoting.MapvoteHistory_INI
RepeatLimit=0
DefaultGameConfig=0
bDefaultToCurrentGameType=True
bMapVote=True
bKickVote=True
bMatchSetup=False
KickPercent=51
bAnonymousKicking=False
MapListLoaderType=xVoting.DefaultMapListLoader
ServerNumber=1
CurrentGameConfig=2
GameConfig=(GameClass="Onslaught.ONSOnslaughtGame" ,Prefix="ONS",Acronym="ONS",GameName="Onslaught",M utators=,Options=)
GameConfig=(GameClass="XGame.xDeathMatch",Prefix=" DM",Acronym="DM",GameName="DeathMatch",Mutators=,O ptions=)
GameConfig=(GameClass="XGame.xCTFGame",Prefix="CTF ",Acronym="CTF",GameName="Capture the Flag",Mutators=,Options=)
GameConfig=(GameClass="UT2k4Assault.ASGameInfo",Pr efix="AS",Acronym="AS",GameName="Assualt",Mutators =,Options=)
GameConfig=(GameClass="XGame.xBombingRun",Prefix=" BR",Acronym="BR",GameName="Bombing Run",Mutators=,Options=)
GameConfig=(GameClass="BonusPack.xMutantGame",Pref ix="DM",Acronym="MUT",GameName="Mutant",Mutators=, Options=)
GameConfig=(GameClass="XGame.xVehicleCTFGame",Pref ix="VCTF",Acronym="VCTF",GameName="Vehicle CTF",Mutators="APVerIII.AirPowerMutator",Options= )
AccInfo=(Name="Devilshotrod",VoteCount=1)

[xVoting.DefaultMapListLoader]
bUseMapList=True
MapNamePrefixes=

Here is a link to the tutorial I followed to enable the "built-in" mapvote.

[legacy-MaxPower]

Originally posted by sargon
Not true, you need both, it does have an effect on online play, I use it for three servers and it allows me to select the mutators for each map.

Half true. UTVote42 has an option to use only maps configured with webadmin. I assumed MapVote was doing the same but I was wrong. I'll do better next time.

[legacy-Sir Spankalot]

This would suggest to me that if you continue using the vote and/or maplist, you'll be forced to apply mutators on a per-game type basis instead of per-map:

GameConfig=(GameClass="XGame.xDeathMatch",Prefix=" DM",Acronym="DM",GameName="DeathMatch",Mutators=,O ptions=)

Have you tried disabling the vote handler yet?

[legacy-Devilshotrod]

I don't think I fully disabled the vote handler, what I did was simply set bmapvote=false. And when I did that, of course, the mutator still was not active. I'm desperately trying different stuff and hope to hit the problem soon, I'm still wide open to suggestions.
DHR