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    Having To Download Maps Beef!

    Well I have a beef with the way UT2004 users have to downlaod maps to play them. I just dont understand why unless there are using custom maps. If the maps are using the defualt textures and meshes and what ever why does the users have to downlaod the maps .... what a waste of time and effort.

    Now here is a good example.

    In Tribes and Tribes2 the client does not need the map to play the game. If a Map maker made a map with all the default mesahes and textures an what not the client does "NOT" need to downlad the map "WHY?" becuase the map was made with the default meshes and textures. Now... If a map was made with with a custom textures , meshes and what not then yes the user would have to go downlaod the map to play the map. No need to worrie an about slow redirections or have to pay for a redirection service ETC ETC.

    But there are 1000's of maps on http://www.tribesmaps.com that an admin can put on his/her server and the user "DOES NOT" have to download the maps to play them. Wish the developers of UT2004 would adopt the same concepts of the Developers of Tribes2 as far as map making It would be better for both admins and the users for a better game play.

    Guess I was just spoiled with Tribes2. O'well Tribes Vengeance will be out in December ... UT2004 will have to do till then.

    CYa
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    Whine whine whine

    There is an easy way to remove map downloads...

    DONT USE ANYTHING BUT STOCK UT2004 MAPS!

    Its quite simple...

    There is nothing wrong with setting up a redirect... Or running your own... Its part of being an admin...


    You cannot just run a server with a custom map and expect nothing to be downloaded... I never played Tribes, so I am not familiar with that game.. I assume they just send basic land layout info...

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      #3
      Use a redirect so it doesnt affect the perfomance of your server..
      If you run the server, there isnt really anything that you need to worrry about as you should already have the maps that you would be playing anyway

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        #4
        Originally posted by Psy[11]
        Use a redirect so it doesnt affect the perfomance of your server..
        If you run the server, there isnt really anything that you need to worrry about as you should already have the maps that you would be playing anyway
        Well anyway to called it "USERS" have to download the maps to play them if they are not the default maps that game with the game period! Unlike Tribes and Tribes2 Users did not have to download maps the did not come with the game!

        Not A good concept

        Cya

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            #6
            Originally posted by xpguy
            Well anyway to called it "USERS" have to download the maps to play them if they are not the default maps that game with the game period! Unlike Tribes and Tribes2 Users did not have to download maps the did not come with the game!

            Not A good concept

            Cya
            No not really...

            Its not hard to have a redirect!!!! Most games will require you to download some kind of map.. Even tribes had you download a map but it is different then a ut2 map...

            But its still a map that is pushed to the client...

            EDIT:
            Now it all makes sense.. You are complaining because you are hosting on a cable modem!!!! LOL

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              #7
              Originally posted by CA-Colossus
              No not really...

              Its not hard to have a redirect!!!! Most games will require you to download some kind of map.. Even tribes had you download a map but it is different then a ut2 map...

              But its still a map that is pushed to the client...
              HEHHEHEHEHEE NO FRICKIN WAY DID THE USERS HAVE TO DOWNLOAD THE MAPS TO PLAY THEM!!!!!! I RAN A TRIBES 2 SERVER FOR 4 FRICKIN YEARS!!!! AND NEVER DID I PUT ON A MAP ON MY TRIBES2 SERVER THAT A USER HAD DOWNLOAD A MAP TO PLAY THEM AND I HAD OVER 250 CTF MAPS ON MY SERVER!!! MAPS WERE NEVER PUSHED ON ANY CLIENT PERIOD! ROFLMFAO!

              CYA :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

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                #8
                Originally posted by xpguy
                HEHHEHEHEHEE NO FRICKIN WAY DID THE USERS HAVE TO DOWNLOAD THE MAPS TO PLAY THEM!!!!!! I RAN A TRIBES 2 SERVER FOR 4 FRICKIN YEARS!!!! AND NEVER DID I PUT ON A MAP ON MY TRIBES2 SERVER THAT A USER HAD DOWNLOAD A MAP TO PLAY THEM AND I HAD OVER 250 CTF MAPS ON MY SERVER!!!

                CYA :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
                You must not know how game servers work....

                Even if there is NO file to direct download.. The server still REQUIRES to send out data to each client on how the world is designed... Which can be real time instead of a map download...

                Yet, it is STILL downloading coordinates and other required data..

                So if you had that for 4 years, then you were not a good admin to not know such a thing..

                Try another one!

                EDIT:
                Yawn: http://www.tribes2maps.com/autodownload/

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by CA-Colossus
                  You must not know how game servers work....

                  Even if there is NO file to direct download.. The server still REQUIRES to send out data to each client on how the world is designed... Which can be real time instead of a map download...

                  Yet, it is STILL downloading coordinates and other required data..

                  So if you had that for 4 years, then you were not a good admin to not know such a thing..

                  Try another one!

                  EDIT:
                  Yawn: http://www.tribes2maps.com/autodownload/
                  hehehehehehe Well if were so smart about Tribes2 that fricken link you have above is for servers that "RUN" CUSTOM MAPS ONLY DUDE!!!!! so yes a user would have to download the frickn map!! but not for maps that use the "DEFAULT" textures meshes and what ever. Man I love it when ppl reply and dont know what the hell they are freakin taking about ROFLMFAO!!!!!!

                  Cya :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by xpguy
                    hehehehehehe Well if were so smart about Tribes2 that fricken link you have above is for servers that "RUN" CUSTOM MAPS ONLY DUDE!!!!! so yes a user would have to download the frickn map!! but not for maps that use the "DEFAULT" textures meshes and what ever. Man I love it when ppl reply and dont know what the hell they are freakin taking about ROFLMFAO!!!!!!
                    Like you?

                    You are still ignorant to what I said... Even with the default Textures, meshes and other items.. There are still a decent amount of info downloaded about the map.. It may NOT be a whole map like in ut.. But data is STILL downloaded..

                    You seem to avoid that comment from before...

                    When you growup and maybe pass 16 years old.. Then get back to me

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by CA-Colossus
                      Like you?

                      You are still ignorant to what I said... Even with the default Textures, meshes and other items.. There are still a decent amount of info downloaded about the map.. It may NOT be a whole map like in ut.. But data is STILL downloaded..

                      You seem to avoid that comment from before...

                      When you growup and maybe pass 16 years old.. Then get back to me
                      anyway you look at it a UT user has to download maps to play it if the server has a map on its server that the user does not have on his computer. Tribes Users Dont have to go download maps to play if they were made using the Deafult Meshes and Textures PERIOD!

                      as far as you statement above:


                      Ok! rofmfao :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

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                        #12
                        either way, UT needs the map to either be in the user's maps directory or in the cache folder, user needs to download it one way or another, no way around it.

                        options:

                        1) only run standard maps (no download)
                        2) leave file pushing on (take the performance hit to the server)
                        3) turn file pushing off (less players join your server if they can't get the map)
                        4) set up a redrirect to a server that hosts the needed files

                        and I guess it is entirely up to you 5) go back to tribes and don't worry about it

                        Only here for the help, not for a fight

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Psy[11]
                          either way, UT needs the map to either be in the user's maps directory or in the cache folder, user needs to download it one way or another, no way around it.

                          options:

                          1) only run standard maps (no download)
                          2) leave file pushing on (take the performance hit to the server)
                          3) turn file pushing off (less players join your server if they can't get the map)
                          4) set up a redrirect to a server that hosts the needed files

                          and I guess it is entirely up to you 5) go back to tribes and don't worry about it

                          Only here for the help, not for a fight
                          No Problem Tribes Vengeance will be out in December!!

                          Cya

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by xpguy
                            No Problem Tribes Vengeance will be out in December!!

                            Cya
                            you have to be kidding me right?

                            apparently you have absolutely no idea how the internet and/or computers work do you

                            where do you think the person playing tribes2 gets the map data from? magic?

                            :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by woohah
                              you have to be kidding me right?

                              apparently you have absolutely no idea how the internet and/or computers work do you

                              where do you think the person playing tribes2 gets the map data from? magic?

                              :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
                              you sure in the hell dont have to install the map on the client thats for sure or have it redirected to the server or any of the B... S... ROFMFAO

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