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    Originally posted by Tom@engineaudio View Post
    Well these are just opinions, but for me, its not an equivalent if it only runs windows programs.
    There's a couple of ways you can look at that...

    1) It is equivalent hardware.
    2) Linux and all the other non-DRM'd operating systems can run on that hardware.
    3) Hackintosh? (... if legal in your country... though turning on your Mac... the one you bought from Apple... is a felony according to the DMCA according to Apple lawyers and a judge. Apple just isn't bothering suing you because you bought it from them. Blizzard's lawyers agree.)

    But yeah, if Apple Care and Mac OSX is worth 1500$, then a Mac Pro is worth it... and yes, for some people, it is worth 1500$. Just be mindful... you are paying 1500$ (in the Mac Pro's situation, above).

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    Originally posted by Phopojijo View Post
    Well of course it stands to reason if you use Logic Studio, Aperture, Final Cut, etc. that you'll prefer the Mac.
    I use Logic and Final Cut, but I also use some windows only tools as well. So I need them both. Well its more of a want than a need, I think.


    Originally posted by Phopojijo View Post
    The question (that wasn't in the form of a question) was if you could get an equivalent PC for half the price of a Mac Pro. The answer is yes...
    Well these are just opinions, but for me, its not an equivalent if it only runs windows programs.

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    Foxconn was contracted by Apple for manufacturing and put pressure on maintaining complete secrecy of... everything they ever do. The company is ridiculous.

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    Well, Apple were obviously enabling and putting pressure on Foxconn, and that did happen.

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    Well of course it stands to reason if you use Logic Studio, Aperture, Final Cut, etc. that you'll prefer the Mac.

    The question (that wasn't in the form of a question) was if you could get an equivalent PC for half the price of a Mac Pro. The answer is yes... a little bit better performing (okay, more than a little bit for UDK)... for just a little bit more.

    Originally posted by UnspoiledWalnut View Post
    Not really. Even if it was, the company's policies lead to torture and suicide, not exactly something I would support.
    Yeah... firstly that was Foxconn, secondly -- yeah... no.

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    Not really. Even if it was, the company's policies lead to torture and suicide, not exactly something I would support.

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    Thanks for the advice everyone, I think I have my answer.

    The software and the way things work in the Apple OS makes it more than worth the extra money, for those of us who are Apple folk.


    Just my opinion.

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    Did you take into account the bags though? They probably drop a pretty penny on those bags....

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    Originally posted by Princess_Die View Post
    Please direct me to a dual socket workstation class windows machine that costs half as much as a comparable Mac Pro.
    All prices after shipping, because Apple gives free shipping. Mail in rebates are *NOT* counted. No bundle offers were used.

    CM Case
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119197
    90$

    Asus DualSlot Mobo
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131378
    270$

    Intel Xeon E5520
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819117185
    385$ x2 = 770$

    Rosewill 800W single-rail power supply
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182102
    100$

    6GB ECC fully buffered RAM (Faster FSB than Apple uses)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820161338
    230$

    Can't get the GeForce GT120... but it's a bit slower than a GeForce 7600GT
    http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/vi...GeForce+GT+120

    So I'll over-double your performance and install a GeForce 9800GT
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-186-_-Product
    80$

    640GB Harddrive
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-527-_-Product
    65$

    22X DVD Burner
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136168
    26$

    Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit Systembuilders
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116758
    140$

    May I assume you already have a mouse and keyboard?
    Monitor price not included, because Mac Pros are headless too.

    Total Price:
    1771$ (Doubled: 3542$)

    You could get someone to assemble it for ~50$, probably at a small-business (mama&papa) computer store. Most places I've seen are usually free... but that's if you buy the parts from them. For assembling other people's parts, I usually see ~35$ (CDN$)... so lets round up to 50$.

    Grand Total:
    1821$ (Doubled: 3642$)

    Cost of Equivalent Mac Pro:
    http://store.apple.com/us_smb_78313/...co=MTM3NDc3NjI
    3299$

    Difference of: 343$

    Pretty close... agree? Especially since I didn't count any mail-in rebates (which would be doubled), upgraded your graphics card to something useful, and added Windows 7 Professional instead of Home Premium for workstation backup reasons (... even though you would need to buy Windows for the Mac Pro anyway... but I said "Well you have OSX, might as well add in Windows"). Also I added fully-buffered RAM because Apple doesn't say whether they do or not... so I erred on the side of expensive for all cases.

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    What model is your Mac Pro? Apple -> About this Mac... -> More Info -> Model Identifier

    The ATI card you linked to only supports Early 2009 model machines or later.

    Edit: NM, it looks like it will work from the comments on that page.

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    The video card is the bottleneck. The 7300 GT has lower performance than the 6600GT which is the minimum recommended card for UT3.

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    I really don't see what would be causing a problem in this machine, I run UDK on a 4650 mobile without any problems. I also don't see why xeno would be bottleneck, they are still normal processors and are the same platform (you can't treat them as the itanium platform which would have this kind of probs). Just for the hell of it to check this theory i ran UDK on my server which also has a xeon processor and I threw in a lowprofile 4350 in just to test it out and it works without problems. Also I just tested it on a iMac with a bootcamp, just to make sure that wasn't causing the probs, and I also ran it without problems.

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    Originally posted by UnspoiledWalnut View Post
    Toss out the current video card and processor and get new ones. Or get rid of the Mac all together because it's basically the same thing as a PC only twice as much.
    Please direct me to a dual socket workstation class windows machine that costs half as much as a comparable Mac Pro.

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    Toss out the current video card and processor and get new ones. Or get rid of the Mac all together because it's basically the same thing as a PC only twice as much.

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    Originally posted by HavocInferno View Post
    a HD 4870 doesn't have GDDR5...only the new ATi HD 5000 series have GDDR5...
    Yes, it does have GDDR5.
    http://store.apple.com/us_smb_78313/...co=MTA4MzU2NTc

    I would love to replace the entire machine, but that wont be happening for a little while. For now, I am hoping that the graphics update might bridge the gap. I am running the map and getting a good amount of work done, but its hanging on by a thread. Hopefully, the new graphics will help out enough for the time being.

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