Scaleform UI to be included with UDK! (UPDATED)

[strangelet]

any word on how much its gonna cost us to use this in a commercial release?

im not expecting it to be quite as cheap as the Bink deal you guys secured, but i hear that Scaleform is expensive to license (from the point of view of a skint indie dev anyway)


EDIT - found the answer to this a few pages back. GFx to be included in the UDK license?! thats very generous! cheers epic and scaleform!

OMFG EPIC! WHILE YOU'RE ON A ROLL, GO ASK WILL WRIGHT IF WE CAN HAVE HIS PROCEDURAL CREATURE CREATION TECH FROM SPORE! YOU CAN DOO EET!

[Henrik]

yes.as westclif say.can we have trial version to make ui?

There's a trial version of Adobe Flash. 30 days.

[gausswerks]

Just chiming in to say I'm pretty excited to try out the new implementation. Since I'm just coming in on UDK, this is a good time for a changeover--guess I won't be focusing any of my time building a UI on the current system

[Hboybowen]

actually if you get really pro at Scaleform Gfx you can get a job just doing that. So keep that in mind.I get and hear of tons of UI jobs

[toxicpanther]

http://www.develop-online.net/news/3...e-free-for-UDK
That means it is free for non-commercial use, and included in the UDK commercial license terms for commercial use.

can i use scaleform for commercial purposes if i buy the $100 udk license?

[IllpIll]

Yes you can use it for your commercial game.

[Brexer]

Sweet..

Now (just to be greedy and annoying) we just need Lightsprint (http://lightsprint.com/) or similar for better realtime lighting, and Umbra for sweet *beep* occlusion culling, though oc is already pretty nice..

Real time global lighting has something to wish for still though..

[IllpIll]

Have you been using Lightmass?
if not then you should go read about it, That is Epic's Beast.

[Brexer]

Have you been using Lightmass?
if not then you should go read about it, That is Epic's Beast.

Sure have, but its not really "realtime" global lighting is it ?, last i checked it was lightmaps :P

Lightsprint (and few other sdks) is real time global illumination, for us who wish to use day/night cycles, tons of moving real time shadow objects and so on.

[Hboybowen]

Sure have, but its not really "realtime" global lighting is it ?, last i checked it was lightmaps :P

Lightsprint (and few other sdks) is real time global illumination, for us who wish to use day/night cycles, tons of moving real time shadow objects and so on.

yes Lightmass is good but if it was done in real time then no complaints here too

[elmuerte]

Can people please stop asking for additional middleware to be included for free in the UDK.

This thread is about Scaleform. So please stay on-topic.

[Brexer]

Can people please stop asking for additional middleware to be included for free in the UDK.

This thread is about Scaleform. So please stay on-topic.

Geez crybaby, you are not on topic too with that post aswell, it has nothing to do with scaleform, but rather people who are airing some idea's based on topic "type" of 3rd party middleware sdk's and complaining over them not being on topic.

Just ignoring it would have been alot easier for you (and us), but nooo, you have to sit and complain over a couple of post out of tons of post wich is on topic wich is the same as posting non topic related posts.

Basicly, your not better your self, isnt that somehow sad ?

Its like throwing a stone in a pond... see now im complaining over you complaining over us just putting out a quick idea for another 3rd party sdk out there wich would have ended there, and soon Epic dudes come yelling or deleting the post(s) and so on and so on...

[eAlex79]

UDK is full of possibilties yet people tend to dream about "more, more, more".

I second elmuerte's motion

[Brexer]

UDK is full of possibilties yet people tend to dream about "more, more, more".

I second elmuerte's motion

Okay, let me put it like this.

This scaleform thing is awesome as i said, and as i said, if UDK would have a good real time lighting system as i said earlier wich apparently is so bad for you guys, then it would be perfect in my eyes..

I can see, that its good to open a WHOLE new topic, just to say that in my oppinion:

"Scaleform in UDK = good"
"Scaleform AND a better real time lighting system = super good."

then just adding a simple reply since it IS ON TOPIC!!!!!, it just extends it a BIT, i can see how its worth crying about it and our wishes to see UDK become top dollar...

Edit: this is my last post on the subject, as i know im right, im not gonna spam my reason to anyone as im sure that would quickly become annoying to all sides, and complaining is not on topic

[eAlex79]

Yes Brexer, there is a lot of stuff that is super good if added. Yet switching from the informal to the emotional channel against elmuerte will not help you get it.

And I fear Epic will add what is on their agenda, certainly not what some dream of and some beg for, especially if those whishes come from people that do not deliver substance (with wich I don't want to say you or others here wouldn't or couldn't). I'm certain they do utterly interesting negotiations for all that middleware that comes with UDK.

You know that if you buy a source license that you almost get no middleware with it? You'd have to buy it seperatly.

So, that's really off topic and I'll stop.