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    Default CLAW - Necessary time to learn how to play

    About one month ago, I switched to alternate control scheme.
    It took me about two weeks to adapt to this new playstyle, but I got it (Thanks Nicodemux0 ).

    Now I want to play using the CLAW style, because I heard that is better for wallbouncing:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1KD3nHhmic

    I want to know from the people who play with the claw, how much time is needed to adapt to it?

    I would like to know the pros and cons.
    Actualy, I don't see any cons, but I just CAN'T play using claw now. Does it get better with the time?

    I would like to know if would be possible to play using the alternate control scheme + CLAW.
    People who play with CLAW, usually play in the default or alternate control scheme?

    Please, Share your experiences CLAW users. It would help me a lot.
    And remember to say if you play on the default or alternate control scheme
    Thanks for the help my fellow gears.

    UPDATE:
    Yes, sometimes I try it for 5 minutes, but it hurts a little and I give up.
    I would like to know if it gets better and the pain goes away when you get used to it.
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    More about the CLAW with a video in the end:
    http://www.rawtalentgaming.com/2011/...ears-of-war-3/

    As you can see, he can slide to the cover while aimming.
    But it looks like he uses the ring finger to shoot.

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    claw just seems unnecessary to me, i like my fingers to be non-dislocated.
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    yeah I would like to not suffer from RSI after 20 mins of gaming...
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    Claw and Alt is by far the best method...

    I tried switching...but I'm lazy...so gave up
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    I play Claw.

    I don't have any finger problems either, and I've been playing Claw since GoW1 lml.

    - To be honest I'm not sure how to long it takes to get adjusted, I started playing claw as soon as I played Gears cause' I found it easier to maneuver that way. I didn't know I was playing claw until last month, lol.

    - Now, for Claw I recommend the regular settings. IMHO, Regular Layout > Alternate. I understand why some people play alternate, but grabbing walls is harder on alternate. (I've been playing Gears for a long while, and I can assure you this is true. Try wallbouncing on regular then on alternate, it's easier on regular / faster.)

    - To my belief it does get better with time, I can't really tell you cause I've been playing claw since way back and I forget lol. It probably does though.

    - You can play Claw - Alternate, I recommend Regular though.

    - In my experience of playing claw, people always ask me how do I wallbounce so fast. Ez, claw. "You turn the corners so quick ; I love it when this guy goes crazy ; you're hurting my eyes dude" . With claw I can wallbounce really fast. A button, grab wall ; thumb on left thumbstick point to wall ; Right thumb moving camera ; Pull back once grabbed ; ez. You'll be a superb wallbouncer once you get claw down, seriously. In a tight space, your going for the clutch, and you wallbounce all of them, it's really fun.

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    Good luck man. I gave up on it. I'm too used to the normal way.
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    Claw ftw
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    Im going to try to get used to Alt + claw at the same time. Whooo!
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    AtMo (arguably one of the best players to play Gears of War) plays CLAW and uses Alternate Controls. His movement is ridiculous, however, I've seen others move just as well and they use Default Controls.

    I tried playing CLAW+Alternate, but I just couldn't get used to it. So now I'm just using Alternate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riiiicky View Post
    AtMo (arguably one of the best players to play Gears of War) plays CLAW and uses Alternate Controls. His movement is ridiculous, however, I've seen others move just as well and they use Default Controls.

    I tried playing CLAW+Alternate, but I just couldn't get used to it. So now I'm just using Alternate
    I can't get use to alternate . The wall-bouncing angles are different.
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    I would have been impressed if you started that video of you with a claw like Dr. Claw from Inspector Gadget and then transitioned into the actual thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riiiicky View Post
    AtMo (arguably one of the best players to play Gears of War) plays CLAW and uses Alternate Controls. His movement is ridiculous, however, I've seen others move just as well and they use Default Controls.

    I tried playing CLAW+Alternate, but I just couldn't get used to it. So now I'm just using Alternate
    yeah i've watched atmo play and his movement is something else. but i've also seen his teammate FLAMEZ (i think is his gt) and his movement is crazy as well and he apparently plays default without claw so practice makes perfect i guess.

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    I use claw if I need to press mutliple buttons at once. Like if I try to bounce while also doing a melee, or switching weapons I will claw.

    Otherwise you don't need it. With enough practice you can press A and move back to the stick before you slide to the wall. Just takes a lot of speed.
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    would someone have a video of this atmo playing?
    I have already seen some videos of the infinity team playing. But I would like to see some videos of this guy in particular.
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by rafaeltaua View Post
    would someone have a video of this atmo playing?
    I have already seen some videos of the infinity team playing. But I would like to see some videos of this guy in particular.
    thanks
    check his twitch/jessebronson

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    keep in mind he's been playing for a while now so his movement is more "complex".

    you should also check out his teammate j ribs. he plays claw but no alternate. idk if he streams anymore though.

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    Claws awesom i just used it and got three people in four gnasher shots
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    J ribs movement>>>>
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    hey if LikeButter plays without alt or claw, I can too :P and hopefully play like
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    but to each their own

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    I just used it again and wallbounced so fast the people didnt see me right behind them at bloodrive by the pistol spawns. I was playing guardian by the way and killed three people including there leader
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    With the claw, it looks like youre playing with arthritis.
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    My hand hurts when I do it. D:
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    Quote Originally Posted by sB Torque View Post
    My hand hurts when I do it. D:
    Mine do too! I started learning it a couple days ago and I can play more than a few games because of hand pain. Does this go away?

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    Personally I don't think claw's really necessary to learn, more about personal preference but it doesn't make you a better player just because you use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyDangleDown View Post
    Mine do too! I started learning it a couple days ago and I can play more than a few games because of hand pain. Does this go away?
    Im sure it does because your muscles are not used to doing that so they'll need time to adjust to it.
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    Hey so I actually play with the claw and I didn't even realize it until I saw the vids u posted. My friends always thought it was weird the way I played with my hand in that position. I couldnt tell you much because learning to play games my by itself put itself in the claw position and that is how I learned to play with the claw. I used the claw before playing gears also, even the older 360 games like Cod 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyDangleDown View Post
    Mine do too! I started learning it a couple days ago and I can play more than a few games because of hand pain. Does this go away?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phenom23 View Post
    Get duct tape and tape your hand like that before you go to sleep. Youll have it down if a few days if you do it every night!
    Just tape my hand in the claw position?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sB Torque View Post
    Just tape my hand in the claw position?
    Yeah, like dancers do with their feet! It really works, but it might morph your bones if you do it for too long. i.e. years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sB Torque View Post
    Just tape my hand in the claw position?
    Yeah! It works great!
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    I might give this a shot, seems simple enough. I hope.
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    I remember I tried learning to do this back when I first starting playing Halo 3. I got used to it, but after a while I got lazy and switched back to normal. I'm not sure how easy it would be for me to go back now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bchaps View Post
    Claw and Alt is by far the best method...

    I tried switching...but I'm lazy...so gave up
    It is effective if you can push the pain outta your mind. It takes a long time before you ring and index finger stop hurting after a good session. I guess maybe after a lot of playtime the pain would get better, but its hard for me to keep my hands like that for more than 20, 25 mins. When I first read about clawing I figured long fingers would help me out, seems like I was mistaken.

    But my hands always hurt when Im done playing I wish......

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    Quote Originally Posted by viperousamoeba View Post
    It is effective if you can push the pain outta your mind. It takes a long time before you ring and index finger stop hurting after a good session. I guess maybe after a lot of playtime the pain would get better, but its hard for me to keep my hands like that for more than 20, 25 mins. When I first read about clawing I figured long fingers would help me out, seems like I was mistaken.

    But my hands always hurt when Im done playing I wish......

    Epic would give me a Gnasher controller and lets by Gears duck hunt style. Haven't figured out how to move yet, but let's start with what I'm holding. Rock bands got drums, Gears needs a Gnasher.
    I thought it too, but now, I think that the claw is made for people with smaller hands.

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    im sorry guys but this is really silly IMO...it's a freaking game, you're trying to relax..."hey let's risk potentially screwing up my bone structure so i can have a higher K/D ratio"...congrats to you guys who are successful at this CLAW business, but no thanks.

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    I will start using the Claw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riiiicky View Post
    AtMo (arguably one of the best players to play Gears of War) plays CLAW and uses Alternate Controls. His movement is ridiculous, however, I've seen others move just as well and they use Default Controls.

    I tried playing CLAW+Alternate, but I just couldn't get used to it. So now I'm just using Alternate
    He doesn't use Alternate, but he does claw; same with every member of Infinity.

    I don't play claw because my index finger starts feeling really weird after. So I just stick to normal.
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