Yes we will have PS3 keyboard and mouse support

**Raad11** · 08-04-2007, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Yurimasa

Yeah maybe it's OT, but you could think about that with the decision to have both SIXAXIS and kb/m on the PS3, it'd form two sets of communities on the PS3 only. It'd be foolish not to merge the kb/m community of the PS3 with the one on PC. In UT there has always been community problems after a while of the games life due to the many different gamemodes anyway. UT3 don't need to split it up to like, three times as many small gamemode communities. Which is what will happen if cross play isn't in it. ;f

Anyways. Thanks Epic! Great news!

Since PS3 will allow kb/m and controller players to play against each other, as soon as the controller players see how the keyboard/mouse players do, they'll disable the option on their hosts/servers and go out and buy their own keyboard/mice...

**Visceral** · 08-04-2007, 05:28 PM

As someone who wasn't really considering a PS3 until I saw the news about UT3 allowing custom mods and levels, I have to say that the addition of the ability to use a keyboard and mouse is almost enough to convince me it is indeed a viable platform.

However, any progress you may have made by allowing PS3 users to use a keyboard and mouse would be rendered useless if you do not allow cross-platform compatibility. If you block the ability of PS3 users to play against PC users, you're left with a PS3 UT community that even further splits itself when 75% of the people playing elect to block out mouse/keyboard users. That's fine and all, I understand it, but if I can't turn around and play against other PC users who are also using the mouse/keyboard combo, it becomes a totally useless feature, reduced to nothing more than an advertising sound byte. Don't make that mistake, let those of us who want to play against PC users as well as use their mods/levels do so.

**EatingPie** · 08-04-2007, 09:10 PM

The rumor made UT my single-most anticipated game for the PS3. Now that it's confirmed, I'm stoked!!

Thanks Epic!!!

-Pie

**TheDeviot** · 08-04-2007, 10:48 PM

Spiffy! Will the Game allow PS3 players to take advantage of higher ended mice?
Sorry if it's been asked already. Just curious to know if devoted UT3 fans armed with MX518's, G5's, Reapers, Razers, Fatal1ti35, and the like will retain any dpi advantage over those who just took the crummy mouse off of their abandoned doorstop computer in the basement for their PS3.

**Raad11** · 08-04-2007, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeviot

Spiffy! Will the Game allow PS3 players to take advantage of higher ended mice?
Sorry if it's been asked already. Just curious to know if devoted UT3 fans armed with MX518's, G5's, Reapers, Razers, Fatal1ti35, and the like will retain any dpi advantage over those who just took the crummy mouse off of their abandoned doorstop computer in the basement for their PS3.

tbh, as long as there's no mouse acceleration, there's no real advantage.

**DanB91** · 08-05-2007, 01:06 AM

i think there should be an option to allow some custom servers to allow controller vs k/m

there will be custom games on the ps3 version (not just dedicated servers), correct?

**Mort_Q** · 08-05-2007, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Phear

Originally Posted by Mark Rein

We'll also allow people to choose whether or not they want to allow mixed controller vs. keyboard/mouse games or not.

I think this should answer the question about games speed.

Really? What's the question? Answer?

**A_Spec** · 08-05-2007, 01:56 PM

This is great news, however the game will be quite hard to play on a 70" HD tv.

**xenofloyd** · 08-05-2007, 03:40 PM

Awesomeness of 70" and $5000 in audio > added difficulty.

**xenofloyd** · 08-05-2007, 03:43 PM

On the note of fast turns, is the PS3 version going to be running at 30 or 60fps?

**Phear** · 08-05-2007, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Mort_Q

Really? What's the question? Answer?

Originally Posted by Kronos

I have a question about this. Earlier Mark or Jeff said they'll slow down the game speed on the PS3/console version. But considering that keyboard and mouse support works with PS3 for UT3 now, we'll we see a change in that? I'd very much like the speed being the same on the PS3 and PC, if they were different it'll be difficult to build custom maps that would flow great on both for gameplay.

I'd be very thankful if the speed on the PS3 is as fast as the PC version, it'd make designing maps and mods alot easier if they were at the same speed.

This question... i guess i should have quoted it also.

**Phear** · 08-05-2007, 05:45 PM

@xenofloyd
That will depend if it supports 1080p (60fps) or just 1080i (30fps.) Dont remember what 720p runs at.

**SKaREO** · 08-05-2007, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Rein

Folks,

I checked with Steve Polge and he said that YES we are supporting keyboard and mouse in Unreal Tournament 3 on PS3. He is confident we are doing it in a way that will be balanced without feeling "gimped" for either side. We'll also allow people to choose whether or not they want to allow mixed controller vs. keyboard/mouse games or not.

This is good news for PS3 owners, its great to have a keyboard/mouse.

Originally Posted by Mark Rein

I think you guys are going to love UT3!

Of course we are, it looks amazing in the videos!

Originally Posted by Visceral

As someone who wasn't really considering a PS3 until I saw the news about UT3 allowing custom mods and levels, I have to say that the addition of the ability to use a keyboard and mouse is almost enough to convince me it is indeed a viable platform.

You can't create mods or maps on the PS3, it certainly can't replace the versatility a PC offers.

Originally Posted by Visceral

However, any progress you may have made by allowing PS3 users to use a keyboard and mouse would be rendered useless if you do not allow cross-platform compatibility.

The kb/mouse is good to have no matter what.

Originally Posted by Mark Rein

Cross platform play isn't decided yet. Please keep this thread about keyboard and mouse for PS3. There are other threads on cross platform.

I'm sure they are strongly considering it, we'll wait and see what happens.

Originally Posted by Mark Rein

More details to come later.

Thanks for your input Mark!

**ez_jamin** · 08-05-2007, 09:35 PM

I honestly don't know about this decision. It could really annoy allot of the pad players and either force them to get a M&KB or to stop playing all together.. which is something you don't want to happen. But as long as you can choose who you play against... It should be fine. (I just hope someone doesn't find a way around the filter or whatever.)

**toniglandyl** · 08-06-2007, 06:35 AM

great news, but don't you contradict yourself over here ?

What's the score with mouse and keyboard support for Unreal Tournament III on PS3?

Rein: I have no idea. You know what, Sony once said it would, totally unbeknownst to us. And we did support it on PS2. To be honest I have no idea if we're doing it or not. There's no technical reason why we shouldn't, it's just a question of is it a little unfair. It might be unfair to give people access to keyboard and mouse.

**Stiobhan** · 08-06-2007, 09:00 AM

this is going to be really interesting deciding to use the sixaxis when i just wanna mess around or just run people over in a vehac or get serious and use K/M

*hmm should i leave my K/M on my pc to use vent and get a FragFX or save my money but lose ventrilo.

*Itll be interesting to see if ingame voice will get bigger in the Ps3 communities and PC players stick to teamspeak and Ventrilo.--FYI no one in my clan has a ps3 so ill have to work out how to use vent

seems off topic but it all revolves around some one with 1K/M setup

**Mark Rein** · 08-06-2007, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by toniglandyl

great news, but don't you contradict yourself over here ?

Well the answer to "is it unfair?" is that users will be able to decide if they want to play against kb/m players or not so they can decide and make the appropriate choice. I think it will work out just fine. I've been playing the game with the Sixaxis and it plays wonderfully.

**intentsly** · 08-06-2007, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by toniglandyl

great news, but don't you contradict yourself over here ?

The start of the interview was on 7/31, so thats prolly why it appears to be contradicting. The part 2 of the interview was just a continuation of the first, and posted on the 8/5. The OP was posted 8/3. So, lets not jump too fast on things as such.

He obviously wanted to get an answer from Sony, since they seemed to be giving them sh*t about it for info.
Intentsly

**Stiobhan** · 08-06-2007, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Rein

Well the answer to "is it unfair?" is that users will be able to decide if they want to play against kb/m players or not so they can decide and make the appropriate choice. I think it will work out just fine. I've been playing the game with the Sixaxis and it plays wonderfully.

so the ps3 community will be split most likely more using sixaxis. So if the ps3 community already has the choice it seems reasonable to allow the K/M players fuller servers by allowing them to play with the PC users

*on a side note ps3 users need access to demos and ss if they wish to play CAL or other leagues--to my knowledge no playstation game is in cal and only gamebattles supports "be honest approach" to recording matches.

**Stiobhan** · 08-06-2007, 05:08 PM

What about the other kids that will use FragFX to get around any k/m limitation set up by epic. as of now there are plenty of kids on RB6 Lasvagas and Resistance:FOM using a mouse to work other players.

by spliting it not that many kids will actually go threw the trouble to play with k/m and have less people to play against.
FragFX- no restrictions, still use a mouse, have fuller servers
K/M- less people, only playing a handfull of players that a squishes b/t ps3 and pc and further more you cant use Vent to keep in touch with pc clans

**Ramplayer3** · 08-06-2007, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Rein

Cross platform play isn't decided yet. Please keep this thread about keyboard and mouse for PS3. There are other threads on cross platform.

On gamespot.com it says that there is gonna be cross-platform play between the PC and PS3... Is this not true, or is it just a mistake???

**Ramplayer3** · 08-06-2007, 08:42 PM

Bump, I really need a response to this question please, preferably from Mark.

**toniglandyl** · 08-06-2007, 08:47 PM

bump ? this is stickied !
oh and he isn't gonna comment on that, trust me.

thanks for your answer, Mark Rein ! Be sure to pass by BU to get some truffles from time to time

**Ramplayer3** · 08-06-2007, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by toniglandyl

bump ? this is stickied !
oh and he isn't gonna comment on that, trust me.

thanks for your answer, Mark Rein ! Be sure to pass by BU to get some truffles from time to time

Ya but no one mentioned the fact that gamespot.com a pretty damn reliable source has posted this info in an official news story that is currently on their homepage. Oh and this wasent a sticky when I bumped it.

**Flak** · 08-06-2007, 09:21 PM

It hasn't been decided.

**Raad11** · 08-06-2007, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Rein

Well the answer to "is it unfair?" is that users will be able to decide if they want to play against kb/m players or not so they can decide and make the appropriate choice. I think it will work out just fine. I've been playing the game with the Sixaxis and it plays wonderfully.

Aside from losing the sixaxis tweaks like crosshair adhesion/acceleration, any other changes when plugging in a keyboard/mouse?

I guess that would bring some balance. It's not hard to aim a controller in a final version of a game with the aim assist. Keyboard/mouse would mean no help so it balances out in the end for most players.

**mischa316** · 08-06-2007, 11:40 PM

This is my 1st post here!! I cant wait to get UT3 for my PS3!! I usually play FPS's on my pc but since you can use KB & M on the PS3 I will definitely get it for that and play it in HD oh yeah!! I was kinda hoping the Darkness would have had KB&M support but it does not so I will not be playing that one.
Thanks for the awesome info!!
Mischa.

**Kronos** · 08-07-2007, 12:15 AM

I'd still like to know if epic still suggest slowing the game down on the PS3 now that it supports KB&M for UT3 on PS3.

**dozerking** · 08-07-2007, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by Stiobhan

What about the other kids that will use FragFX to get around any k/m limitation set up by epic. as of now there are plenty of kids on RB6 Lasvagas and Resistance:FOM using a mouse to work other players.

by spliting it not that many kids will actually go threw the trouble to play with k/m and have less people to play against.
FragFX- no restrictions, still use a mouse, have fuller servers
K/M- less people, only playing a handfull of players that a squishes b/t ps3 and pc and further more you cant use Vent to keep in touch with pc clans

These are excellent points. As a PC Gamer that's going to play the PC version of UT3, I have a PS3 as well and have been waiting for the wireless version of the FragFX for other non-supported K/M games, like the Darkness. I suppose there is nothing Sony or Epic can do to stop the FragX from being used in controller only games, and I would imagine in a game like UT, this will be quite obvious as to who is using the FragX and who isn't .

**Raad11** · 08-07-2007, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by Kronos

I'd still like to know if epic still suggest slowing the game down on the PS3 now that it supports KB&M for UT3 on PS3.

The PS3 comes default with a controller and most PS3 players will use controller so you can probably assume it will be the slowed down controller-tuned version.

**prograham** · 08-07-2007, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by Visceral

As someone who wasn't really considering a PS3 until I saw the news about UT3 allowing custom mods and levels, I have to say that the addition of the ability to use a keyboard and mouse is almost enough to convince me it is indeed a viable platform.

However, any progress you may have made by allowing PS3 users to use a keyboard and mouse would be rendered useless if you do not allow cross-platform compatibility. If you block the ability of PS3 users to play against PC users, you're left with a PS3 UT community that even further splits itself when 75% of the people playing elect to block out mouse/keyboard users. That's fine and all, I understand it, but if I can't turn around and play against other PC users who are also using the mouse/keyboard combo, it becomes a totally useless feature, reduced to nothing more than an advertising sound byte. Don't make that mistake, let those of us who want to play against PC users as well as use their mods/levels do so.

I think this is a really great comment. However, having read through this thread, and reading about FragFX for the first time, I think the two relate to each other. In essence, I think FragFX might be a great thing actually. It will force the issue with FPS on the console in the future that k/m support is the standard which should be used. The same will go with with RTS games.

It's the only way I can see consoles really taking over the PC for all games. And really, isn't the controls the only real thing separating them now?

**Rasstar** · 08-07-2007, 10:09 AM

This represents Sony's strategy to take over PC gaming.

**epicexlover** · 08-07-2007, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Rasstar

This represents Sony's strategy to take over PC gaming.

I agree, sony president said ''Ps3 will replace PC'', sounds like another dirty plan from sony to take over pc gaming with their POS3.

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/200...replace-pc.htm

**Rasstar** · 08-07-2007, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by ULTRAVISITOR

This represents your ignorant fanboyism.

Oh yea? Didn't Sony say the PS3 is more powerful than a super Computer and will take over PC gaming? Only time will tell but if developers realize they can make a lot more in the console market I wouldn't be surprised if the focus is switched to them. It's already happening.

**toniglandyl** · 08-07-2007, 10:30 AM

Mark Rein, I'd like an official rectification (or confirmation) concerning this : http://n4g.com/gaming/News-57365.aspx apparently cross-plateform is confirmed ?
it surprises me alot, not that it's true, but that it's just on that site, without any warning over here or on other sites. thanks

EDIT : ooooh, very stupid ! sorry for this post.

yeh over 9000% fake

**ULTRAVISITOR** · 08-07-2007, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by epicexlover

I agree, sony president said ''Ps3 will replace PC'', sounds like another dirty plan from sony to take over pc gaming with their POS3.

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/200...replace-pc.htm

It sounds like you need to be banned for creating a profile to spam the forums with mindless anti-Sony rhetoric because you're not happy about UT3's temporary exclusivity to the PC an PS3.

**epicexlover** · 08-07-2007, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by ULTRAVISITOR

It sounds like you need to be banned for creating a profile to spam the forums with mindless anti-Sony rhetoric because you're not happy about UT3's temporary exclusivity to the PC an PS3.

I need to get banned just because u're a sony fanboy and u don't like the ps3 bashing

?

**ULTRAVISITOR** · 08-07-2007, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Rasstar

Oh yea? Didn't Sony say the PS3 is more powerful than a super Computer and will take over PC gaming?

I don't recall Sony ever making any such claim. Source?

Regardless, it was the guys over at Epic Games that were considerate enough to include mouse and keyboard support for PlayStation 3 owners, and I appreciate them giving me that option. It has nothing to do with Sony attempting to "take over PC gaming."

**aaquib** · 08-07-2007, 11:23 AM

I read on PSU.com that you guys confirmed that it will have cross platform play. Is that true?? Here's the link:

http://www.psu.com/PS3-UT-III-To-Hav...s--a894-p0.php

**ULTRAVISITOR** · 08-07-2007, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by aaquib

I read on PSU.com that you guys confirmed that it will have cross platform play. Is that true?? Here's the link:

http://www.psu.com/PS3-UT-III-To-Hav...s--a894-p0.php

I'm sure they'll announce whether or not cross-platform play will be possible when they're ready, but for the time being:

Originally Posted by Mark Rein

Cross platform play isn't decided yet. Please keep this thread about keyboard and mouse for PS3. There are other threads on cross platform.