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BeardedVillain
10-21-2011, 07:17 PM
I notice that it says "Reading skill level's of all party members" yet it is making me go against a full party of level 80-100's with 2.0 ratios with a team that is level 10-30 and them having no more then a 0.6 ratio. I am level 37 myself with only a 1.2 ratio so there should be no reason that i would be paired up against that
high of levels. Is this ever going to be fixed or does it lie to you about reading skill level?

Billy Hoke
10-21-2011, 07:19 PM
Ever since "true skill" the matchmaking has been terrible.

Waffle_Melon
10-21-2011, 07:20 PM
I went against a team today with 3 100 ranked players. Guess the outcome?

NFI
10-21-2011, 07:22 PM
Trueskill is an MS formula and it sucks. Everyone has to use it.

However I am going to point something out - that number by your name is not your skill level, that is a "number" you dont see. It is entirely possible for a level 5 to have a higher trueskill rating than a 90. So your post is not entirely correct.

Shaunyowns
10-21-2011, 07:23 PM
I went against a team today with 3 100 ranked players. Guess the outcome?

You kicked their asses because they weran't legit?

Waffle_Melon
10-21-2011, 07:26 PM
You kicked their asses because they weran't legit?

http://i55.tinypic.com/2gxlcfd.jpg

BeardedVillain
10-21-2011, 07:26 PM
Well, i came back from a vacation and the last 8-10 matches i have been doing terrible, So if there was a hidden skill rank it would have gone down significantly.

Xenokai
10-21-2011, 07:27 PM
ive been noticing it been forcing me into a game against full teams for the past 2 days. I asked joe about it but apparantly nothign was chnaged so i dnno.

Shaunyowns
10-21-2011, 07:28 PM
http://i55.tinypic.com/2gxlcfd.jpg

Damm they got lucky!

Master Roshi
10-21-2011, 07:33 PM
Yeah. The mathmaking in this game is terrible. You should just use a calculator.

Xsevendust
10-21-2011, 07:34 PM
dude the matchmaking is horrendous. You hit it on the head. Idk how epic does it but its like "lets make the most unbalanced games possible k?"

I play alone 85% of the time and its always teams of five level 65+ and all their KDs are 2.0 and above. Then ill go in with a party of five and its all randoms that are usually no higher than 50. So annoying. Really ruins the game sometimes when you keep getting crapped on game after game because the teams are so unfair.

Master Roshi
10-21-2011, 07:40 PM
Moral of the story: Don't be a loner Rambo wannabe, play with and as a team!

This problem wouldn't be so extreme if randoms started using their damn mics.

umbrage
10-21-2011, 07:47 PM
but it does match you with players with the same .5 w/l ratio as you. the catch? they're on your team.

i hate the true skill. it truly fails.

umbrage
10-21-2011, 07:59 PM
bump. it fails.

it's like... either you play with your friends online or you're going to get noobified going solo.

Hartenbergg
10-21-2011, 08:03 PM
mathmaking. i have no idea why, but this made me laugh for 3 straight minutes. :)

But trueskill doesn't work 95 percent of the time.

umbrage
10-21-2011, 08:09 PM
true skill sucks. i'm tired of playing against bots in quick matches.

KeshOnHend
10-21-2011, 08:16 PM
I went against a team today with 3 100 ranked players. Guess the outcome?

you emerged victorious?

Xsevendust
10-21-2011, 08:18 PM
Moral of the story: Don't be a loner Rambo wannabe, play with and as a team!

This problem wouldn't be so extreme if randoms started using their damn mics.

Not everyone has teammates all the time or even wants teammates to play with. We should be able to go in alone like every other game on the market and have fun. Not be obliterated by "mlg" teams and the like.

umbrage
10-21-2011, 08:26 PM
Not everyone has teammates all the time or even wants teammates to play with. We should be able to go in alone like every other game on the market and have fun. Not be obliterated by "mlg" teams and the like.

yes i second that.

i have friends, but they don't like this game.

Xsevendust
10-21-2011, 08:51 PM
yes i second that.

i have friends, but they don't like this game.

Ya i mean i had a slew of friends on now that its been out a month. There is 10 at best. Normally its like 3 people.

Nexus_
10-21-2011, 09:24 PM
http://i55.tinypic.com/2gxlcfd.jpg Im not sure if he is sad or angry

NFI
10-22-2011, 03:35 AM
ive been noticing it been forcing me into a game against full teams for the past 2 days. I asked joe about it but apparantly nothign was chnaged so i dnno.

This. I have been getting this a TON lately. I drop into a game and its against a full squad.

NFI
10-22-2011, 03:36 AM
dude the matchmaking is horrendous. You hit it on the head. Idk how epic does it but its like "lets make the most unbalanced games possible k?"

I play alone 85% of the time and its always teams of five level 65+ and all their KDs are 2.0 and above. Then ill go in with a party of five and its all randoms that are usually no higher than 50. So annoying. Really ruins the game sometimes when you keep getting crapped on game after game because the teams are so unfair.


Do people actually listen. They use MS Trueskill formula, all games on XBOX that utilize matchmaking do. Blame MS for their absolutely atrocious formula. You should take a look at it sometime it is flawed on multiple levels.

BLACKOUT in HDV
10-22-2011, 03:48 AM
I could care less about that its more in quick match matchmaking that chaps my ass. How you get matche din a gmae that just ended and you get the loss/win for it. Or when you join a match that is over half way through. garbage.

alby13
10-22-2011, 04:10 AM
the microsoft trueskill invisible ranking looks like it will work on paper (you might say it is overcomplicated) in practice it sucks. it's too slow to figure out the ranks (read: skill) and doesn't match teams well.