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Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 10:15 AM
Was the CMS raised to Gears 1 speed?



I personally made the change [back to Gears 1 CMS] http://gearsforums.epicgames.com/member.php?tab=visitor_messaging&u=16&page=3#visitor_messaging
Thank you Joe and Epic! :)

Gears 3 MP (10/07/10): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNd1LcvHZS4


Gears of War Character Movement Speed comparison Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K5PO51IZRw

Gears of War CMS comparison supplementary Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4IXh2oP1sA
^Super, special thanks to SuperScot for the greatest vids about Gears ever:)




I personally made the change [back to Gears 1 CMS] http://gearsforums.epicgames.com/member.php?tab=visitor_messaging&u=16&page=3#visitor_messaging

NeMeSiS446
05-17-2009, 10:17 AM
Just give it a rest. He already told you you cant have any more cookies, so do as joe said and get your hand out of the cookie jar! =P

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 10:18 AM
What? lol...he didn't say anything bout which game.:)

I would love to have this in Gears 3.

blast
05-17-2009, 10:19 AM
this is a joke right?

hey Mario
05-17-2009, 10:23 AM
Hey, it could be possible.

Dormiglione
05-17-2009, 10:23 AM
Voted increase the CMS Speed for the next Gears of War Game. Joe stated that it cant be done within Gears 2, so lets hope that Gears 3 has then a higher pace.

M4RCU5
05-17-2009, 10:24 AM
I would love an increase, but not as fast as Gears 1.

C'mon get the developers here! And get this stickied!!
Wonderful idea Devy!

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Trickery
05-17-2009, 10:25 AM
I wouldn't mind getting the Gears1 speed back.

king-mark
05-17-2009, 10:26 AM
all i hope it that they fix the rolling is faster than running thing, unless its true then im going to try out for the olympics and beat everyone thats not smart enough to roll

M4RCU5
05-17-2009, 10:27 AM
unless its true then im going to try out for the olympics and beat everyone thats not smart enough to roll

lol..
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Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 10:29 AM
Voted increase the CMS Speed for the next Gears of War Game. Joe stated that it cant be done within Gears 2, so lets hope that Gears 3 has then a higher pace.

Agreed. Ok, Joe stated it cannot be done for Gears 2. Alrighty. Gears 3 then request.

No, it isn't a joke. You don't request something like this AFTER the game has been announced. That would be too late.

Are you being sarcastic M4rcu5? lol

M4RCU5
05-17-2009, 10:31 AM
Are you being sarcastic M4rcu5? lol


No, I hate how slow GOW2 is, damn.
I played Gow1 Yesterday, or friday (short term memory) and I was amazed.

No sarcasm. Truth.
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Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 10:34 AM
No, I hate how slow GOW2 is, damn.
I played Gow1 Yesterday, or friday (short term memory) and I was amazed.

No sarcasm. Truth.
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Oh ok. lol....Please rate the thread before you leave:) Good or bad, it is appreciated. :)

and of course, please post your thoughts or concerns.

NeMeSiS446
05-17-2009, 10:34 AM
I would like Gears 1 speed for gears 3. :)

blast
05-17-2009, 10:38 AM
i like it slow!!!!

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 10:44 AM
i like it slow!!!!

ok:) I'm glad you voted your opinion. Did you rate? No pressure, just asking:)

Vanir
05-17-2009, 10:46 AM
The main tactical difference faster movement creates is that it's harder to shoot roadie runners, which makes rushing more effective. Which in turn makes shottie dancing once again the name of the game. Not my style.

blast
05-17-2009, 10:47 AM
ok:) I'm glad you voted your opinion. Did you rate? No pressure, just asking:)

yes i did :)

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 10:49 AM
What would you say is the "name of the game" right now Vanir?

I'm sure there would be says to combat rushers than just having a slow CMS...like an improved version of stopping power? ;)

Awesome blast. :)

hey Mario
05-17-2009, 10:50 AM
Forgot to rate this 5 stars, good idea Devy! :]

blast
05-17-2009, 10:51 AM
What would you say is the "name of the game" right now Vanir?

I'm sure there would be says to combat rushers than just having a slow CMS...like an improved version of stopping power? ;)

Awesome blast. :)

stopping power is fine as it is. so is speed

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 10:55 AM
stopping power is fine as it is. so is speed

Thanks Saav:)

? You don't mind that if you run zig zag, you can still "avoid" stopping power?

blast
05-17-2009, 10:58 AM
Thanks Saav:)

? You don't mind that if you run zig zag, you can still "avoid" stopping power?

dont understand

Vanir
05-17-2009, 10:59 AM
What would you say is the "name of the game" right now Vanir?

I'm sure there would be says to combat rushers than just having a slow CMS...like an improved version of stopping power? ;)


Grenades are the name of the game now. But that has nothing to do with movement speed.

EDIT: Actually, I take that back. Having to look around every corner and scan surfaces for tagged grenades affects how fast I move around the maps moreso than CMS.

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 11:21 AM
dont understand

you don't mind that you can avoid stopping power, by NOT running in a straight line?

haha nades? and your cool with that? Yeah, your right, it doesn't. so, why not increase the speed? even just a tad?

hotcat101
05-17-2009, 11:22 AM
No thanks, I enjoy the fact that you can kill someone rushing you with a shotgun these days. Even though stopping power was implemented, it is too easy for players to wall bounce around the line of fire and all but negate its effect. If the CMS is increased it will simply become a rehashed GOW 1 with different weapons and different maps.

CoatedTrout
05-17-2009, 11:22 AM
If they said it didn't work in Gears 2, what will make it work in Gears 3?

o sniped o
05-17-2009, 11:23 AM
I loved in gears 1 u could wall bounce in 1v4 situations now if u try u just get melee'd.

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 11:24 AM
If they said it didn't work in Gears 2, what will make it work in Gears 3?

anything? if they used an updated verison of Unreal for this, why can't it just be updated again?

Vanir
05-17-2009, 11:26 AM
haha nades? and your cool with that? Yeah, your right, it doesn't. so, why not increase the speed? even just a tad?

No, I'm not cool with that at all. See my edit.

My view of CMS is that it's fine as is. I don't see the need for anything faster. You can RR from one side of almost any map to other in 30 seconds.

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 11:29 AM
No, I'm not cool with that at all. See my edit.

My view of CMS is that it's fine as is. I don't see the need for anything faster. You can RR from one side of almost any map to other in 30 seconds.

yeah, see it now.

Did you play the campaign? and Gears 1 at all?

Vanir
05-17-2009, 11:32 AM
yeah, see it now.

Did you play the campaign? and Gears 1 at all?

Both. (10 Carmines)

CoatedTrout
05-17-2009, 11:33 AM
anything? if they used an updated verison of Unreal for this, why can't it just be updated again?

I don't think they meant 'it broke so many things' as in so many glitches came up, rather that balance was 'broken' by the increased speed.

But would be nice for a private match option I'll give you that. I remember asking Epic to have a 'classic' option in custom games pre-release (having predicted the ****storm that would come after the changes had been realised) and fufu said 'It is something we are certainly considering'. What ever happened to that :rolleyes:

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 11:34 AM
Both. (10 Carmines)

What did you think of the moments of CMS increase during the Campaign?

Did you not enjoy the pure excitement of how fast pace and in your face it was? I know you don't enjoy rushers, nor do I.

CT: then i'm sure they can balance it now for a whole new game, no?

CoatedTrout
05-17-2009, 11:37 AM
CT: then i'm sure they can balance it now for a whole new game, no?

How would you suggest they balance it out?

(And btw, I would like an increase of RR speed, but only because it's stupid that rolling is faster)

Vanir
05-17-2009, 11:42 AM
What did you think of the moments of CMS increase during the Campaign?

Did you not enjoy the pure excitement of how fast pace and in your face it was? I know you don't enjoy rushers, nor do I.

CT: then i'm sure they can balance it now for a whole new game, no?

I didn't spend much time roadie running around during the campaign as I was hunting around for cog tags and whatnot much of the time.

I think the current CMS works well for the Gears multiplayer maps, which are the smallest of any game I know of.

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 11:48 AM
How would you suggest they balance it out?

(And btw, I would like an increase of RR speed, but only because it's stupid that rolling is faster)

I don't know honestly. I'm not a game creator. Surely there is a way, Gears 1 did it. I don't honestly remember anyone complaining, "OMG this game is way too fast...". I've said that about Unreal Turny, but never Gears.

??? It increased during moments of action A. lol...go and play the 1st level after the tank mission. The 1st part BEFORE you get on the boat has a great contrast between slow and fast.

Vanir
05-17-2009, 11:52 AM
(And btw, I would like an increase of RR speed, but only because it's stupid that rolling is faster)

Yeah this bugs me a little. It wouldn't be the end of the world if they increased movement speed a small amount. I just don't think its a big deal. Like I said, tagged grenades have affected the pace of the game far more than movement speed changes.

Tag@gears
05-17-2009, 12:03 PM
yes please,.. its a must for gow3.
well at least for me, game movement in gow1 was spot on!

M4RCU5
05-17-2009, 06:29 PM
Bump for Devy!
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Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 06:45 PM
Yeah this bugs me a little. It wouldn't be the end of the world if they increased movement speed a small amount. I just don't think its a big deal. Like I said, tagged grenades have affected the pace of the game far more than movement speed changes.

see! I knew it...a tad-bit increase is more than none. :)

thanx M4rcu5;)

Bizkitdoh
05-17-2009, 06:46 PM
I think an even balance to make the roll and rodie run same spped would be fine, try having cover based speed (sliding) about gears 1 speed.

Thoughts?

M4RCU5
05-17-2009, 06:49 PM
thanx M4rcu5;)


Anytime.....(To the sound of Predator)



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Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 06:53 PM
I think an even balance to make the roll and rodie run same spped would be fine, try having cover based speed (sliding) about gears 1 speed.

Thoughts?

Hmm...that would def be welcomed. Any increase, in any shape, would be very much appreciated. Would be great actually.

Haha, nice m4r

M4RCU5
05-17-2009, 06:54 PM
Haha, nice m4r


Now I have you and Skorge calling me "M4R"

Well he calls me Mr. M4R, but who cares???

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Snipershot94
05-17-2009, 06:57 PM
Lol devy your great. They rejected plans for cms increase in gears 2 so you've planned ahead. Classic :)

ELiCiT
05-17-2009, 06:57 PM
Gears 1 style all the way... but I can only dream of this until it actually happens...

RyderSyndicate
05-17-2009, 06:58 PM
Terrific thread ya got here buddy ol' pal!

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 06:58 PM
Lol devy your great. They rejected plans for cms increase in gears 2 so you've planned ahead. Classic :)

unsung hero baby...unsung hero:)

Gotta start now; start after its announce, is way too late.

Thanks Ryder....:D

Bizkitdoh
05-17-2009, 06:59 PM
I think for gears 3 they need to take their time.

Ill wait til 2012 for a perfect game ;)

PrinceOfAllSaiyans
05-17-2009, 07:01 PM
hell yea, devy's back! updating my sig to show this thread bud, good to have u back.

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 07:02 PM
I think for gears 3 they need to take their time.

Ill wait til 2012 for a perfect game ;)

me too, I don't mind at all....plenty of time to get plenty of votes to get SOME kind of increase. :)

Thanks Prince. Good to be back:)

M4RCU5
05-17-2009, 07:03 PM
I think for gears 3 they need to take their time.

Ill wait til 2012 for a perfect game ;)


I'd wait till 2015...(Maybe)
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Bizkitdoh
05-17-2009, 07:03 PM
me too, I don't mind at all....plenty of time to get plenty of votes to get SOME kind of increase. :)

If time is on... well.... time, by then maybe we could have a new engine ;)

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 07:04 PM
If time is on... well.... time, by then maybe we could have a new engine ;)

yeah, one that "can handle the speed" ;)

PrinceOfAllSaiyans
05-17-2009, 07:11 PM
yikes, joe really did burst the bubble there didnt he. o well, u know what, this game is still really fun when the connection is perfect. my friend recently upgraded his internet to 17mb down and 8 mb up. the speed seems faster, the movement are fluid, the shotty actually gibs within 8 ft. i know now why they think the gameplay isnt broken over at epic. but this is exactly why they need to make these kind of connections host all the time like halo does. i think that could bring everyone back to the game from gears 1, and greatly decrease the number of changes requested. u should have felt it devy, yes, i was actually sweating, i felt the rush from gears 1 again and im not gonna lie, i got a semi lol. if u have a friend with this kind of connection, i strongly suggest you force host, its no mystery, everyone knows how to do it, and u will see the game is really fun.

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 07:14 PM
actually, I don't know how, nor would I. I shouldn't have to "cheat" to enjoy the game in that degree. ya dig?

Dilaudid281
05-17-2009, 07:15 PM
You know you got my support Dev :D

Bizkitdoh
05-17-2009, 07:16 PM
Guess what?

At E3, flak has informed us that they will be showing off the latest unreal engine ;)

ill quote in a sec.

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 07:17 PM
You know you got my support Dev :D

Roger. :)

btw-i sent you a friends request on PS3:)

I gotta have SOME kinda of increase of CMS speed for the MP....

o jeez Bizk.....(hello possibly for increase CMS, along with countless possibilities. :D)

M4RCU5
05-17-2009, 07:17 PM
yeah, one that "can handle the speed" ;)


LOL...Can't unreal....It is one of the, (if not the) most advanced engines out there.

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Bizkitdoh
05-17-2009, 07:17 PM
It is June 2-4 at the Los Angeles Convention Center and we will indeed be there! We will be showing off the newest Unreal Engine features and tools. :)

At this time, nothing else has been announced, but you might want to keep your eye on G4TV as they are covering the event.

Hooray :D

schweet news.

Dilaudid281
05-17-2009, 07:21 PM
LOL...Can't unreal....It is one of the, (if not the) most advanced engines out there.

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From what Gears 2 has shown me, it's about on par with Valves Source Engine :p

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 07:22 PM
nice find Bizk. yeah.....luckily thats not too far...sweet...can't wait

PrinceOfAllSaiyans
05-17-2009, 07:23 PM
actually, I don't know how, nor would I. I shouldn't have to "cheat" to enjoy the game in that degree. ya dig?

oh i deffintly dig old friend. i totally agree, but when its between great gears and crappy gears, ill do what it takes. when all day everyday a poor host is selected who starts d/ling movies as soon as his team goes down 3-1, ill do what it takes. forcing host is only cheating when he has a crappy connection in my eyes because of this. used to, i would agree with u, i hate cheaters and every form of cheating, and still do, but when the game developers cant fix a problem that u can urself, u gotta do what u gotta do bud, ya dig?

pm me if u wanna know how, i know u wont abuse the power by doing it with a crappy connection.

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 07:27 PM
na, na....its all good mate. :)

I wanna know whats going down at E3...lol

DenyThisFlesh
05-17-2009, 07:29 PM
I would love to see the Gears 1 speed come back. I would also be happy with some middle ground that is faster than Gears 2, but not as fast as Gears 1.

PrinceOfAllSaiyans
05-17-2009, 07:30 PM
na, na....its all good mate. :)

I wanna know whats going down at E3...lol

hell yea, i got that chit set on the dvr. god i hope they annouce something to fix the current game, but it will definitly be cool to see what the future has in store :)

RyderSyndicate
05-17-2009, 07:35 PM
I would love to see the Gears 1 speed come back. I would also be happy with some middle ground that is faster than Gears 2, but not as fast as Gears 1.

This summarizes my vote completely. Any increase in speed for Gears 3 would prove to be a positive. This is of course provided they design the game with this in thought, not after.

Bizkitdoh
05-17-2009, 07:36 PM
hell yea, i got that chit set on the dvr. god i hope they annouce something to fix the current game, but it will definitly be cool to see what the future has in store :)

nice idea.
Ill do that :D

shagaboopon
05-17-2009, 07:41 PM
I like the current speed but would adapt for a slightly tweaked increase just perhaps not as far as Gears 1 please.

Bizkitdoh
05-17-2009, 07:44 PM
I like the current speed but would adapt for a slightly tweaked increase just perhaps not as far as Gears 1 please.

QFT
10char

M4RCU5
05-17-2009, 08:01 PM
Keeps on falling; bump for Devy!
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Gnar Killington
05-17-2009, 08:04 PM
i voted for an increase in the speed but not till its at gears 1 speeds, just a bit slower than gears 1 because it wouldn't balance out if it were the same speeds in gears1 in gears of war 3.

Jake2320
05-17-2009, 08:11 PM
Either of the three would work for me.

Fazed
05-17-2009, 08:20 PM
NO!!! Then we'd have to get re-used to a new shotgun.....AGAIN!!!

LobotiCasta+ion
05-17-2009, 09:26 PM
You are determined Devy, and yes I want it increased to gears 2 Campaign speed. Go check it, its faster than multiplayer CMS.

Bizkitdoh
05-17-2009, 09:32 PM
I think gears 3 should have gears 2 shotgun.

Im so used to it now.

Any other changes that change 'shotgun duels' should deal with movement.

LocustQueen
05-17-2009, 09:38 PM
Well, I'm not going to play Gears 2's MP since this won't be changed but I hope it gets implemented in Gears 3. At least Epic tried it.

Dilaudid281
05-17-2009, 09:53 PM
I think gears 3 should have gears 2 shotgun.

Im so used to it now.

Any other changes that change 'shotgun duels' should deal with movement.

Eh, the shotgun in Gears 1 was fine. Only people that had a serious problem with it, were the ones that got killed over and over again by its users. Much like now, I'm sure alot of people are tired of the Hammerbursts God Like status.

Bizkitdoh
05-17-2009, 09:59 PM
Eh, the shotgun in Gears 1 was fine. Only people that had a serious problem with it, were the ones that got killed over and over again by its users. Much like now, I'm sure alot of people are tired of the Hammerbursts God Like status.

I used the shotgun fine, but i like the balance of it in gears 2 better.

I would rather it be like it is now than like it was.
Don't feel like re-adjusting AGAIN.

Ive killed hammerbursters plenty of times with all weapons, if every person in Gears 2 pretty much has the most kills with their shotgun, it should stay like it is.

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 10:08 PM
You are determined Devy, and yes I want it increased to gears 2 Campaign speed. Go check it, its faster than multiplayer CMS.

cuz I work out. To this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqyc37aOqT0

kool M4rcu5. i didn't understand your post btw(im a little drunk;p)

M4RCU5
05-17-2009, 10:09 PM
Well hope your thread goes well. I'm getting of to Double xp it up.

Sir Psycho Sexy
05-17-2009, 10:23 PM
Good Luck Devy. Good Luck.

By the Way Peter Gabriel FTW!

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 10:26 PM
Good Luck Devy. Good Luck.

By the Way Peter Gabriel FTW!

hells yeah...and if you don't agree, don't make me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oaSZxd9jOY

thanx bud. add my 2 friends if we aren't

MegaShot419
05-17-2009, 10:28 PM
Even though I never supported the CMS speed change, I'm not greedy. I voted for the 2nd option because I'm sympathic.

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 10:30 PM
Even though I never supported the CMS speed change, I'm not greedy. I voted for the 2nd option because I'm sympathic.

thanx. I (and we) love you:)

aND BECAUSE OF THAT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yaw7qX_ZDNE&feature=channel cuz you need one. probably. ;)

Bizkitdoh
05-17-2009, 10:34 PM
Dev, stopping power is fine.

Don't be stupid and sprint towards a wall of bullets waiting to happen.

Be shneeky.

Sir Psycho Sexy
05-17-2009, 10:34 PM
hells yeah...and if you don't agree, don't make me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oaSZxd9jOY

thanx bud. add my 2 friends if we aren't

Lol. (10 charizards)

And blitz, stopping power is fine. Just want RR shot back to get out of tight spots. We can deal with the wall of bullets.

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 10:36 PM
Dev, stopping power is fine.

Don't be stupid and sprint towards a wall of bullets waiting to happen.

Be shneeky.

doesn't mean it couldn't be improved, no? besides, this isn't about that at all. lol

I was just trying to persuaded one member. ya know? like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNrO-FAHcdI&feature=channel

Bizkitdoh
05-17-2009, 10:43 PM
WTF?!!??!?!?!?!
My name is

BIZKITDOH

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 10:44 PM
WTF?!!??!?!?!?!
My name is

BIZKITDOH

wha??? lmao...;

Giltakeover
05-17-2009, 10:51 PM
Pleaseeeee EPIC PLEASSEEEE!

Hive_Node
05-17-2009, 10:52 PM
Let's have the true Gears of War 2 and not Gears of War .5! I fully support.

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 10:54 PM
Let's have the true Gears of War 2 and not Gears of War .5! I fully support.

yeah, eayh.....that sounds great. :) hell, it can be Gears 45 1/2....as long as it has some increase in CMS, i'll be happy......like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfNluQ888g4

Hive_Node
05-17-2009, 10:56 PM
So Devy, what is altering your mind tonight? You don't seem quite yourself...

Your Devastator
05-17-2009, 11:00 PM
So Devy, what is altering your mind tonight? You don't seem quite yourself...

uhh.....bourbon and coke...but I'm always a funny guy. well, till I do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgBpv1nJdug&feature=related

Dormiglione
05-18-2009, 12:29 PM
I think gears 3 should have gears 2 shotgun.

Im so used to it now.

Any other changes that change 'shotgun duels' should deal with movement.

A change of the shotgun is not a problem. We learned to use the gears 1 shotgun, we learned to use the gears 2 shotgun and we will learn to use the gears 3 shotgun.

Your Devastator
05-18-2009, 12:51 PM
A change of the shotgun is not a problem. We learned to use the gears 1 shotgun, we learned to use the gears 2 shotgun and we will learn to use the gears 3 shotgun.

Agreed.

The slow movement is the issue....mostly of preference too honestly...and looking at the polls, it makes me :)

Kvo Sparkz
05-18-2009, 12:52 PM
What I don't get is, why is rolling faster than running?

EPIC is funny.

Your Devastator
05-18-2009, 12:54 PM
Yeah, that blew my mind hazard when i first started playing.....a couple people starting rolling, and I was like "retards, that just slows you down a tad"...."wait, why are you beating me now!?!"

Kvo Sparkz
05-18-2009, 12:55 PM
Yeah, that blew my mind hazard when i first started playing.....a couple people starting rolling, and I was like "retards, that just slows you down a tad"...."wait, why are you beating me now!?!"

HAHAHA LMFAO "wait, why are you beating me now!?!"

Tom W
05-18-2009, 12:57 PM
this is a joke right?
No, this is Devy's dream!
Along with many others, including me:)

Your Devastator
05-18-2009, 12:57 PM
HAHAHA LMFAO "wait, why are you beating me now!?!"

hahaha, yeah, like that. ;)

right on Tom;)

Majik BUTTER
05-21-2009, 04:57 PM
It has too be increased. I love Gears 1 CMS. I do roll and take two steps and roll in Gears 2, but it just feels stupid. If they can't change it for Gears 2 already, they can hopefully look into it for Gears 3. I hope Epic takes a look at this again.

EXTREME NOOBHUNTER
05-21-2009, 05:00 PM
Make it for Gears 3!!!

Carmine_3
05-21-2009, 05:06 PM
Bring GoW1 Speed!!

Your Devastator
05-21-2009, 06:48 PM
this should be in the old school event this weekend.....:D

EXTREME NOOBHUNTER
05-21-2009, 06:49 PM
this should be in the old school event this weekend.....:D

Good point. :):)

Simburgur
05-21-2009, 06:52 PM
/Agree etc.

RyderSyndicate
05-21-2009, 06:59 PM
Anyone care to explain the ''oldschool'' event this weekend?

EDIT: WOOP! Just saw da sticky.

Your Devastator
05-21-2009, 06:59 PM
read the sticky homme :)

EXTREME NOOBHUNTER
05-21-2009, 07:00 PM
read the sticky homme :)

lol That's one way to put it. :D

RyderSyndicate
05-21-2009, 07:09 PM
read the sticky homme :)

Whoo yeah! This is gonna be greaaat weekend I reckon' :D

All the more reason why I have faith in Epic and your thread.
Now they're taking more action.

EXTREME NOOBHUNTER
05-21-2009, 07:09 PM
Whoo yeah! This is gonna be greaaat weekend I reckon' :D

All the more reason why I have faith in Epic and your thread.
Now they're taking more action.

I think they've realised how representative the forum really is of the Gears population at large.

Gandalf
05-21-2009, 07:11 PM
Who can argue with this? Makes the gameplay so much more intense.

Scorp Zero
05-21-2009, 07:11 PM
PLEASE OH PLEASE Bring the shooting out of roadie run back lol i mean i thought thats the reason stopping power was added lol EPIC IS NERFING THE WHOLE DAMN GAME lol

dogsinthecity
05-21-2009, 07:17 PM
Now this i actually find reasonable, in gears 2 i really don't expect epic to do **** to the running speed but gears 3 is a different story.You got my vote.

Your Devastator
05-21-2009, 10:13 PM
thanks Dog:)

Bizkitdoh
05-21-2009, 10:16 PM
They should play around with it for another event.
Sorry i got DC while i was pwning dev :p
xbox red ring sucks :/

Your Devastator
05-21-2009, 10:24 PM
They should play around with it for another event.
Sorry i got DC while i was pwning dev :p
xbox red ring sucks :/

psh you wish:p

M4RCU5
05-26-2009, 09:31 PM
(((Bump For Devy)))

Falloutt
05-27-2009, 10:10 PM
completely agree, I hope they do this.

Lonebutterfish
05-27-2009, 10:11 PM
I could care less about the speed. I just would like the glitches to be fixed

Your Devastator
05-27-2009, 10:11 PM
A buddy of mine is creating a video showing the cms "issue". should be up soon.

The Bizkit
05-27-2009, 10:12 PM
It needs to be faster.. So yes. For several reasons. A fast 5v5 game would be sweet.

Lonebutterfish
05-27-2009, 10:13 PM
A buddy of mine is creating a video showing the cms "issue". should be up soon.

i dont believe there is an "issue" with the cms. I think its fine, what they should fix is the glitches, lag, and CSHD

Your Devastator
05-27-2009, 10:14 PM
i dont believe there is an "issue" with the cms. I think its fine, what they should fix is the glitches, lag, and CSHD

K.

Then stop posting in here. lol

Falloutt
05-27-2009, 10:15 PM
A buddy of mine is creating a video showing the cms "issue". should be up soon.yeah, I think the main problem is people have no idea what the hell you are even talking about. a video that would express the difference from the cms in gow1 to gow2 would really help.

hell, i didn't even know what cms was until you finally said the full name later in the post :O

Your Devastator
05-27-2009, 10:16 PM
yeah, I think the main problem is people have no idea what the hell you are even talking about. a video that would express the difference from the cms in gow1 to gow2 would really help.

hell, i didn't even know what cms was until you finally said the full name later in the post :O

lol....yeah....the video will help a lot. :)

AgentPlatypus
06-01-2009, 12:08 PM
WTF is CMS?

Milky Pirate
06-01-2009, 12:11 PM
character movement speed

AgentPlatypus
06-01-2009, 12:17 PM
Okay, thanks. :)

I think its fine the way it is.

TheMuffinMan
06-01-2009, 12:18 PM
If they just remade gears 1 with all the annoying glitches fixed and all the new stuff from gears 2 added in, wall tagging, moving when down, weapons, game types etc, then I'd probably buy it lol :D

Usedtable
06-01-2009, 12:21 PM
WTF is CMS?
It's spelled out if the first post of the thread. Wow.

highflyer626
06-01-2009, 12:34 PM
How about you stop complaining and just play the game. If you dont like it then stop playing it simple as that. If you were a real Gears fan you would accept the game, adapt, and kick a**. So why dont you stop wasting your time with posts like this. EPIC is doing a great job.. I mean if this game sucked so much why do people complain but STILL play it despite their whining. Exactly...

Usedtable
06-01-2009, 12:36 PM
How about you stop complaining and just play the game. If you dont like it then stop playing it simple as that. If you were a real Gears fan you would accept the game, adapt, and kick a**. So why dont you stop wasting your time with posts like this. EPIC is doing a great job.. I mean if this game sucked so much why do people complain but STILL play it despite their whining. Exactly...

You. Back in your cage. And you better make sure you like it while you're in there, because that is how the cage was made and all.

AgentPlatypus
06-01-2009, 12:37 PM
It's spelled out if the first post of the thread. Wow.
No need to be an ass.

wolfnemesis75
06-01-2009, 12:47 PM
I played on Saturday night and had a ball in the MP for the first time. I really think that they've ironed out a lot of bugs and stuff. The game played really fun. I whined a little when I was playing, but it is always tough being sent to the sidelines, but that is what also makes it fun to play. I like how the new smokes don't blow you all over the ground like a big ole leaf too. And the smoke really does provide cover and the explosion looks cool now. The speed is about 5% slower if I had to guess, and it works smoother. That is my two cents, that's all.

Dormiglione
06-01-2009, 12:52 PM
How about you stop complaining and just play the game. If you dont like it then stop playing it simple as that. If you were a real Gears fan you would accept the game, adapt, and kick a**. So why dont you stop wasting your time with posts like this. EPIC is doing a great job.. I mean if this game sucked so much why do people complain but STILL play it despite their whining. Exactly...

Nobody says that Gears 2 is a bad game. Gears 2 evolved from Gears 1 and i love Gears 2 much more than Gears 1.
I played Gears 1 since it was out of the shelf. I played it through all Patches and TU's they made.
And i play Gears 2 since its out in the shelf and i never stopped playing. I didnt care how many flaws it had. EPIC made a great job through all their TU's in fixing glitches and improving the gameplay.
And now guess how? Who brought all the input about the glitches? Who gave EPIC all the Feedback they need to improve the gameplay?

Exactly, this community, this Forum. If we dont were "real" gears fan, we didnt care about the glitches, put the disc back in the cover and never played it again. But this is not the case. Its this "whining" community who gives EPIC the Feedback needed to improve Gears.

CMS cant be increased in Gears2. This was stated. So many players are asking for a higher pace in Gears3.

Usedtable
06-01-2009, 01:00 PM
No need to be an ass.

Sorry. I guess expecting someone to read the first post of a thread they clicked on is being an ass. Will make note for future reference ;)

Your Devastator
06-03-2009, 11:55 PM
How about you stop complaining and just play the game. If you dont like it then stop playing it simple as that. If you were a real Gears fan you would accept the game, adapt, and kick a**. So why dont you stop wasting your time with posts like this. EPIC is doing a great job.. I mean if this game sucked so much why do people complain but STILL play it despite their whining. Exactly...

i'm a real boy! i love whatever is given! :)

haha......please find a way to increase it for Gears 3.....if there will be such a game:)

Your Devastator
06-14-2009, 06:02 PM
I'm not gonna sleep till this comes back, IM GONIN ON SAFARI...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmWNYpQDyy0

xhambonex
06-14-2009, 06:21 PM
again with these threads, what gears3? I rather they fix gears2. After spending $100+ on this game, I want it to work.

Your Devastator
06-14-2009, 06:22 PM
again with these threads, what gears3? I rather they fix gears2. After spending $100+ on this game, I want it to work.

been around for awhile......no harm looking toward the possible future.

xhambonex
06-14-2009, 06:26 PM
been around for awhile......no harm looking toward the possible future.

When I play gears1 it is slower movement wise. It also is a super sticky environment and movement in general is not as fluid as gears2. The only thing that makes that game faster is the lack of stopping power and action out of the RR, and no planted grenades.

Your Devastator
06-14-2009, 06:26 PM
When I play gears1 it is slower movement wise. It also is a super sticky environment and movement in general is not as fluid as gears2. The only thing that makes that game faster is the lack of stopping power and action out of the RR, and no planted grenades.

wait.....you think the CMS is SLOWER in Gears 1?

xhambonex
06-14-2009, 06:35 PM
wait.....you think the CMS is SLOWER in Gears 1?

Technically no it is probably a little faster, a minor percentage. But the game had some serious movement issues. Like the delay between running and rolling, the sticky environment, just basically a lot of delays between certain actions. I think Gears2 players move much more fluidly, though they may actually be running slightly slower.

But the reason the game feels slower is because in Gears1 you could just run around without worry. There was nothing to look out for except the other person. Now in Gears2 you have to be cautious of the HB from any range, stopping power, and planted grenades.

If you were to remove the planted grenades from this game, Gears2 MP would speed would dramatically increase. If you removed stopping power, it would be a lot like gears1.

But as an indivdual CMS, I don't really notice a huge difference since the gameplay is so different. I'm not looking to just run around full speed like I did in gears1.

Your Devastator
06-14-2009, 06:39 PM
Technically no it is probably a little faster, a minor percentage. But the game had some serious movement issues. Like the delay between running and rolling, the sticky environment, just basically a lot of delays between certain actions. I think Gears2 players move much more fluidly, though they may actually be running slightly slower.

But the reason the game feels slower is because in Gears1 you could just run around without worry.

there was no delays.

it felt faster, cuz it was.

yea, the environment was sticky and needed to be fixed.

TRELON
06-14-2009, 06:39 PM
no

no f-ing way. stop changing irrelevant details in GOW2. Movement speed doesn't define GOW2. I work out:o. Get some skillz.

xhambonex
06-14-2009, 06:44 PM
there was no delays.

it felt faster, cuz it was.

yea, the environment was sticky and needed to be fixed.

there are delays...its between rolling and RR. The characters pauses every single time.

basically I don't see a CMS increase as a big deal. I don't sit back and complain that I can't physically run as fast. I think its more about I choose not to run around because there are more things that stop me than there were in Gears1. Its a completely different gameplay style.

I bet you the CMS speed is pretty minimal of a change between the 2.

Mr Shredderr
06-14-2009, 06:55 PM
yes increase it

Your Devastator
06-15-2009, 03:16 AM
no

no f-ing way. stop changing irrelevant details in GOW2. Movement speed doesn't define GOW2. I work out:o. Get some skillz.

I got more skillz in my left foot then you do completely. :p


there are delays...its between rolling and RR. The characters pauses every single time.

basically I don't see a CMS increase as a big deal. I don't sit back and complain that I can't physically run as fast. I think its more about I choose not to run around because there are more things that stop me than there were in Gears1. Its a completely different gameplay style.

I bet you the CMS speed is pretty minimal of a change between the 2.

lmao....no, there isn't. I'm about to post a vid. Its pretty obvious dude.

KENKRANK
06-15-2009, 03:52 AM
The CMS is so slow on Gears 2. Especially when you're host. It's like slow motion. Is that why they made the Roll faster than Running. So you could Roll to stay awake while Running on a map like Gridlock???

xhambonex
06-15-2009, 11:13 AM
lmao....no, there isn't. I'm about to post a vid. Its pretty obvious dude.

Go for it. I was going to do the same, but instead I just put in Gears1 and played it. They even talked about it before the release of Gears2 when they were discussing how they tuned character movement. Its not a big pause but it is a lot less fluid than gears2.

Your Devastator
06-15-2009, 11:15 AM
Go for it. I was going to do the same, but instead I just put in Gears1 and played it. They even talked about it before the release of Gears2 when they were discussing how they tuned character movement. Its not a big pause but it is a lot less fluid than gears2.

how did this get into "fluid"-ness? I just want it faster. lol

posted the prototype video. not the final product.

xhambonex
06-15-2009, 11:20 AM
how did this get into "fluid"-ness? I just want it faster. lol

Because its part of CMS. If that slight delay was taken out it would seem much faster. Just like I feel that I can move around much quicker in close quarters in gears2 than I can in Gears1 because you can interrupt swat turns, and interrupt going into cover and all those things. Flat out running is slower, but is was also slower to run in Gears1 than to run and roll.

I guess I really don't care either way if your speed is increased or not, because in the end its not the factor that determines the speed of gameplay. It would just make initial rushes from spawn faster.

Your Devastator
06-15-2009, 11:22 AM
but is was also slower to run in Gears1 than to run and roll.



no, it isn't. if your in front, you stay in front. rolling doesn't do anything. if it does, it slows you slightly down.

xhambonex
06-15-2009, 11:26 AM
no, it isn't. if your in front, you stay in front. rolling doesn't do anything. if it does, it slows you slightly down.

Sorry yeah I was thinking moving through cover is faster, or so Epic claimed, just like rolling is faster in Gears2.

But sure speed it up, I just don't see it changing anything but the initial rush from spawn. Gears2 gameplay will always be slower because of other features in its MP.

Your Devastator
06-15-2009, 12:04 PM
Sorry yeah I was thinking moving through cover is faster, or so Epic claimed, just like rolling is faster in Gears2.

But sure speed it up, I just don't see it changing anything but the initial rush from spawn. Gears2 gameplay will always be slower because of other features in its MP.

with a fast character rate, the MP will be faster. lol duh.

nade plating and stopping doesn't stop the character from moving at a faster rate period.

thanks. speed it up!!!

AND WATCH THE VID IN THE OP!!!!!!!!!!!! AND VOTE!!

Snipershot94
06-15-2009, 12:05 PM
Oi! Devy! Have you voted on the tac com thread? i need 4 more voters ;) thanks a lot bud :p

http://gearsforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=677216

xhambonex
06-15-2009, 12:20 PM
with a fast character rate, the MP will be faster. lol duh.

nade plating and stopping doesn't stop the character from moving at a faster rate period.

thanks. speed it up!!!

AND WATCH THE VID IN THE OP!!!!!!!!!!!! AND VOTE!!

We'll just have to disagree. I only think the player will move faster when you want to go to a certain point on the map. But overall I don't run around like I did in Gears1. Nade planting and stopping power stops you from choosing to run directly at people which slows down gameplay, not the character. Though stopping power does slow down the character.

The MP may be slightly faster, but it won't be anything like the speed in Gears1.

Dirtyspatz
06-15-2009, 01:55 PM
cant shoot after running feels like a bug,
game feels so slow,
u roll faster then u run, LOL
epic just dont know what they are doin!
i'd need only an one hour conversation with epic, one update then the game would be way better then GOW1 and triblebillion times better then GOW2.

Walter Lebowski
06-15-2009, 02:45 PM
More important Devy is that roadie run again becomes faster that jumping.

If I have to jump all the way through GOW3 i'll be Uber pissed...;.)

mwoelfel13
06-15-2009, 02:47 PM
is there for sure gunna be a gears 3?

Your Devastator
06-15-2009, 03:34 PM
Oi! Devy! Have you voted on the tac com thread? i need 4 more voters ;) thanks a lot bud :p

http://gearsforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=677216

Taken care of. :)


We'll just have to disagree. I only think the player will move faster when you want to go to a certain point on the map. But overall I don't run around like I did in Gears1. Nade planting and stopping power stops you from choosing to run directly at people which slows down gameplay, not the character. Though stopping power does slow down the character.

The MP may be slightly faster, but it won't be anything like the speed in Gears1.

did you watch the vid? you can move much quicker through the maps.

Your confusing, being stupid & rushing with simply having a faster CMS. Different topics.


More important Devy is that roadie run again becomes faster that jumping.

If I have to jump all the way through GOW3 i'll be Uber pissed...;.)

very true. This is quite annoying.


is there for sure gunna be a gears 3?

nothing has been confirmed as of June 15th, 2009.

xhambonex
06-15-2009, 10:46 PM
Yeah thanks for the insult I don't care either way, the only speed difference that bothers me is the gameplay speed and tactics, not how fast I run. But sure knock yourself out talking about Gears3, I rather have some issues in Gears2 solved.

gnxROUGE
06-15-2009, 11:28 PM
There is no difference to me, so why change if it is no different

Your Devastator
06-16-2009, 12:19 PM
Yeah thanks for the insult I don't care either way, the only speed difference that bothers me is the gameplay speed and tactics, not how fast I run. But sure knock yourself out talking about Gears3, I rather have some issues in Gears2 solved.

I didn't insult you. lmao


There is no difference to me, so why change if it is no different

did you play Gears 1? did you watch the video in the OP?

How can you say such a false statement?

hey Mario
06-16-2009, 12:21 PM
Yo devy check me out :cool:

o sniped o
06-16-2009, 12:22 PM
How many times did u have to ask flak to change ure name ?

Your Devastator
06-16-2009, 12:22 PM
Yo devy check me out :cool:

lmao, how'd you do that?

stay on topic though....

what you think about the speed and the video in the OP?

hey Mario
06-16-2009, 12:25 PM
Yea it would be cool if they upped the speed a little

Ugalde
06-16-2009, 12:42 PM
I would love to have Gears 1 speed. Reboot the franchise back to what it should be.

hey Mario
06-16-2009, 12:45 PM
^ Devy junior :D

Bizkitdoh
06-16-2009, 12:45 PM
i think as long as they balance out the roll>run, im happy.
the speed in the video.... is.... weird.

الوحش السعودي
06-16-2009, 01:14 PM
what CMS & MP mean ?

TRELON
06-16-2009, 01:32 PM
what CMS & MP mean ?

CMS is Character Movement Speed

MP is Multi-Player

Your Devastator
06-16-2009, 06:55 PM
^ Devy junior :D

lol no, that ain't me. I've been busy.


i think as long as they balance out the roll>run, im happy.
the speed in the video.... is.... weird.

weird???


CMS is Character Movement Speed

MP is Multi-Player

QFT....(quoted for truth:))

feyri
06-19-2009, 12:46 PM
faster. but not as fast as gears 1

Your Devastator
06-19-2009, 01:00 PM
faster. but not as fast as gears 1

thats better than nothing. :)

Nitewalkar
06-19-2009, 01:31 PM
hey devy you can edit the thread title now lol. looks like its going to be made.

Your Devastator
06-19-2009, 03:02 PM
hey devy you can edit the thread title now lol. looks like its going to be made.

cuz of that Cliff interview? you think I should, really?

Mclov7N
06-19-2009, 03:03 PM
cuz of that Cliff interview? you think I should, really?

WHAT Cliff interview, is it happening ?

Your Devastator
06-19-2009, 03:04 PM
WHAT Cliff interview, is it happening ?

let me find the link for ya

http://gearsforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=686749 here it is.

Mclov7N
06-19-2009, 03:05 PM
let me find the link for ya
Can't watch videos, on the phone :(

-Raven-
06-19-2009, 03:06 PM
Answer me this and Ill support, what do you gain from returning the speed?

Your Devastator
06-19-2009, 03:08 PM
Can't watch videos, on the phone :(

it isn't a video.


Answer me this and Ill support, what do you gain from returning the speed?

Game moves at a more fluid pace with the increased speed. Why do you think the speed increases during battles in the Campaign?

It makes it more intense and increases your mobility.

Mclov7N
06-19-2009, 03:09 PM
it isn't a video.

Sweet, post the link ;)

Izemann
06-19-2009, 03:10 PM
Gears 3 is happening. Cliff said it basically in that interview.

Your Devastator
06-19-2009, 03:11 PM
Sweet, post the link ;)

lol i DID. I posted it in that other post. lol

alright. i'll edit the title.

Gun
06-21-2009, 10:31 PM
Buuuuummmppp

EmbraceTheOne
06-21-2009, 10:32 PM
Wont happen


:(:(

king-mark
06-21-2009, 10:34 PM
you should get a vid of a player running in the flashback maps in gears 1 and 2

Your Devastator
06-22-2009, 04:52 PM
you should get a vid of a player running in the flashback maps in gears 1 and 2

like I say in the OP, it isn't the finished product.....should be up by tomorrow night.

DauntlessScourg
06-26-2009, 01:18 AM
DEFINITELY back up to GOW1 speed.

Gun
06-26-2009, 01:22 AM
Broke what?
The effectivness of the melee?

Vevion
06-26-2009, 01:27 AM
Yes, I support this! :)

And hi, Devy!

Your Devastator
06-26-2009, 09:09 AM
Broke what?
The effectivness of the melee?

who you talking in response to?


Yes, I support this! :)

And hi, Devy!

Yes......

whats up V? how ya doing? Good playing with ya last night. that was fun......did it lag bad for you at all?

Falloutt
06-26-2009, 09:40 AM
I really don't see why anyone wouldn't support this, it'd make the game 20x better=\

Your Devastator
06-26-2009, 09:43 AM
indeed it does Falloutt!:)

Vevion
06-26-2009, 10:38 PM
Nah, dude. Wasn't laggy for me. :P

Mclov7N
06-26-2009, 10:40 PM
Nah, dude. Wasn't laggy for me. :P
Vevions best-friend is Adversity. Just gonna get that out there :rolleyes:;)

Vevion
06-26-2009, 10:52 PM
Vevions best-friend is Adversity. Just gonna get that out there :rolleyes:;)

LOL, WOW!

I know you have your eyes set on him. :D

Mclov7N
06-26-2009, 10:53 PM
LOL, WOW!

I know you have your eyes set on him. :D
:o Maybe i do :rolleyes:

Your Devastator
06-27-2009, 11:55 AM
Nah, dude. Wasn't laggy for me. :P

alright, sweet. that was the 1st time I hosted a Gears 1 match on my connection since moving. lol:)

lmao....lovin lovin....

< Profess >
06-27-2009, 11:57 AM
If they increase the speed they have got to implement the same leadless CSHD of the game for the Gnasher. With the high latency and warping, the same server side setup with faster players is going to be ridiculous.

Your Devastator
06-27-2009, 11:58 AM
If they increase the speed they have got to implement the same leadless CSHD of the game for the Gnasher. With the high latency and warping, the same server side setup with faster players is going to be ridiculous.

i still don't fully grasp CSHD....and High latency honestly. lol:o

BaLLiN_BG
06-27-2009, 12:31 PM
I really don't see why anyone wouldn't support this, it'd make the game 20x better=\

Thats what I'm saying.

Gun
06-28-2009, 05:41 PM
Bump.
Old speed for me plS

< Profess >
06-28-2009, 05:54 PM
i still don't fully grasp CSHD....and High latency honestly. lol:o

It's like those old cameras with low frame-rates, everything looks fast because you are playing back a 30fps recording at say 60fps.

Same principle with increasing the CMS in Gears, faster characters with the same connection update speed just means what you see is less and less accurate to what is going on, since you can't update (record^^) what is happening fast enough to display it accurately.

LiquidNitr0
06-28-2009, 05:57 PM
faster is indeed better

Gun
06-28-2009, 05:58 PM
It's like those old cameras with low frame-rates, everything looks fast because you are playing back a 30fps recording at say 60fps.

Same principle with increasing the CMS in Gears, faster characters with the same connection update speed just means what you see is less and less accurate to what is going on, since you can't update (record^^) what is happening fast enough to display it accurately.

Bbbuu..buuu..but prooofeessss!!!!
It worked fine in gears 1! Why wouldn't it work again for a sequeal?

< Profess >
06-28-2009, 06:04 PM
It's what made the shotgun inconsistent for clients in Gears1. Imagine what it would be like when the shotgun is as bad as it is now with slow moving players.

I like the idea of CMS+, but they have to sort the CSHD out for the shotty if they do.
That's all my concern is.

Your Devastator
06-29-2009, 08:07 AM
just make it work like it does for Gears 1.....at least thats better what Gears 2 does. lol

xhambonex
06-29-2009, 08:58 AM
how bout just fix MP...

Its a shame how well Gears1 worked in comparison to gears2 considering the 1 month spent on Gears1 and the 2 years on Gears2.

Your Devastator
06-29-2009, 09:07 AM
how bout just fix MP...

Its a shame how well Gears1 worked in comparison to gears2 considering the 1 month spent on Gears1 and the 2 years on Gears2.

the answer is in your words....

just make it like Gears 1 Gameplay with stopping power. The end :)

< Profess >
06-29-2009, 09:10 AM
Even though that sounds really crude, it is kinda hard to deny how much truth there is to it. I mean there isn't a whole lot beyond stopping-power, slide cancels and a few of the other minor touches worth keeping.

Most the big changes (like the weapons) didn't really work out at all.

Your Devastator
06-29-2009, 09:12 AM
Even though that sounds really crude, it is kinda hard to deny how much truth there is to it. I mean there isn't a whole lot beyond stopping-power, slide cancels and a few of the other minor touches worth keeping.

Most the big changes (like the weapons) didn't really work out at all.

oh yeah. my bad......

keep slide cancels, along with stopping-power......and nade tags, IF THEY EXPLODE FROM 1 BULLET FROM ANY GUN. :) n course, don't get stuck on a lot of stuff.

anything else profess?

xhambonex
06-29-2009, 09:17 AM
the answer is in your words....

just make it like Gears 1 Gameplay with stopping power. The end :)

yeah I don't really want that. But its a step in a better direction.

Your Devastator
06-29-2009, 09:18 AM
yeah I don't really want that. But its a step in a better direction.

what do you want? if thats a step in the better direction, what do you want?

xhambonex
06-29-2009, 10:50 AM
what do you want? if thats a step in the better direction, what do you want?

I want Gears2 with the solid connections and ease that I find in CoD4. I loved Gears1, played it way to much. :)

I really like how Gears2 plays without lag. I could do without wag tags...but most of my complaints with this game is how incredibly inconsistent it is in online MP, off host.

This game has so much potential to be amazing, 3rd time's the charm?;)

Your Devastator
06-29-2009, 10:51 AM
I want Gears2 with the solid connections and ease that I find in CoD4. I loved Gears1, played it way to much. :)

I really like how Gears2 plays without lag. I could do without wag tags...but most of my complaints with this game is how incredibly inconsistent it is in online MP, off host.

This game has so much potential to be amazing, 3rd time's the charm?;)

even with host, in your own room, it has issues......lagless won't make it perfect.

xhambonex
06-29-2009, 10:55 AM
even with host, in your own room, it has issues......lagless won't make it perfect.

It won't be perfect. It has issues sure, but they don't bother me.

You love gears1 obviously (so do I), but that game was indeed broke. Even with all the issues it was still a great game. So all I am saying is Gears2 would be better if it was always played on a great connection.

Your Devastator
06-29-2009, 10:57 AM
It won't be perfect. It has issues sure, but they don't bother me.

You love gears1 obviously (so do I), but that game was indeed broke. Even with all the issues it was still a great game. So all I am saying is Gears2 would be better if it was always played on a great connection.

gears 2 is broke even with host and no lag.

gears 1 isn't.

xhambonex
06-29-2009, 11:05 AM
gears 2 is broke even with host and no lag.

gears 1 isn't.

Yeah Gears1 was perfect.:rolleyes:

And based on the opinions I've seen you give, you seem to be content with Gears1. And I was not. The only thing that still isn't an issue in this game is the party system. Host advantage, the shotgun, CMS or simply character mechanics are all still issues across both games.

< Profess >
06-29-2009, 11:20 AM
It won't be perfect. It has issues sure, but they don't bother me.

You love gears1 obviously (so do I), but that game was indeed broke. Even with all the issues it was still a great game. So all I am saying is Gears2 would be better if it was always played on a great connection.

It's just a shame that those parts of Gears1 I found to be fine where the parts 'broken' for Gears2. Was much really fixed for Gear2 from Gears1? Really the lag and the inconsistency is worse than before, along with the weapon balance and focus.

The shotgun to melee for example. What a no-brainer, I mean it's a bit dodgy off-line, nevermind on.

xhambonex
06-29-2009, 11:27 AM
It's just a shame that those parts of Gears1 I found to be fine where the parts 'broken' for Gears2. Was much really fixed for Gear2 from Gears1? Really the lag and the inconsistency is worse than before, along with the weapon balance and focus.

The shotgun to melee for example. What a no-brainer, I mean it's a bit dodgy off-line, nevermind on.

Yeah I like most of the new features in Gears2. But as far as it being a solution to the problem that were in Gears1, things weren't any better and arguably worse.

The only working solution is the party system. Which still isn't perfect.

Drwster
06-29-2009, 02:08 PM
I would love an increase, but not as fast as Gears 1.

C'mon get the developers here! And get this stickied!!
Wonderful idea Devy!

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Yea.... Perfect!!!!!!!!!

Taffer
06-29-2009, 03:02 PM
I'm not quite sure what it is about Gears 2. I don't think it's the movement speed that really bothers me, but everything just feels kind of HEAVY and laggy, doesn't it? Like it doesn't quite feel like actions happen the SECOND that you press them, and the aim is so finicky that in shotgun strafe battles players are generally encouraged to just mash the B-button.

I went out and rented Gears 2 again (I can rent it for $1, still don't have enough to buy it unfortunately) and it is indeed tons of fun, but something about the way aiming works just doesn't feel quite right.

Something is up with this game (I'm not sure, I don't think it's just purely connection lag but perhaps control lag as well), but I don't think that the movement speed needs to be upped.


Really the lag and the inconsistency is worse than before, along with the weapon balance and focus.

I've been playing the game all today and last night, and while matchmaking is a pain, lag is pretty much a non-issue (I'm not kidding, there was one match with standbying but all of the rest have ran flawlessly connection-wise). Weapon balance also seemed pretty fair, with a pretty even number of people using the shotgun as there were using the hammerburst and lancer. There is that over-reliance on the two-piece that is quite baffling that they have not removed, of course, but the weapon balance itself is MUCH more focused than in the first game.

Oh, and grenades plants are still far too powerful as well, but it's really the only way to counter-act a boomshot at the moment unfortunately. In order to balance the grenades they would need to do so with the boomshot as well, otherwise either one or the other would become ridiculous.

Your Devastator
06-29-2009, 03:50 PM
Yeah Gears1 was perfect.:rolleyes:

And based on the opinions I've seen you give, you seem to be content with Gears1. And I was not. The only thing that still isn't an issue in this game is the party system. Host advantage, the shotgun, CMS or simply character mechanics are all still issues across both games.

I didn't say Gears 1 was perfect. However, it is leaps and bounds ahead of Gears 2, in my POV.

shotty and CMS aren't issues in Gears 1.

Omnios
06-29-2009, 03:59 PM
I would love to see the movement speed go back to Gears 1 speed. The way the game plays now feels dumb. You know you are moving too slow when you run when people are rolling past you when you're in a dead sprint.

Your Devastator
06-29-2009, 04:00 PM
I would love to see the movement speed go back to Gears 1 speed. The way the game plays now feels dumb. You know you are moving too slow when you run when people are rolling past you when you're in a dead sprint.

lmao, thats true....

xII Morgoth IIx
06-29-2009, 04:05 PM
I swear GOW players are the whiniest bunch of users I've come across...You want to change the game so badly, send a resume to Epic and get a job there.

Your Devastator
06-29-2009, 04:07 PM
thats nice morgoth. you may go now.

lol

Omnios
06-29-2009, 04:08 PM
I swear GOW players are the whiniest bunch of users I've come across...You want to change the game so badly, send a resume to Epic and get a job there.

maybe because Gears of War two should have honestly had another 6 months of work done on it. I've never seen so many changes made to a console shooter ever.

Izemann
06-29-2009, 04:30 PM
Gears 3 will be awesome.

Mclov7N
06-29-2009, 04:38 PM
Gears 3 will be awesome.
It will be rushed again, i bet.

Izemann
06-29-2009, 04:47 PM
It will be rushed again, i bet.

It don't matter. It will be sick.

I Get IvIilfs I
06-29-2009, 04:51 PM
Im tierd of rolling then running doesnt make any sense rolling is faster then running ?

Gun
06-29-2009, 04:58 PM
Yea i mean wtf. Were not dung beetles
Rolling shouldn't be faster

awesomestephen
06-29-2009, 05:26 PM
maybe CMS was lowered so your character wouldn't lose his breath

Imploding Whale
06-29-2009, 05:26 PM
I honestly don't care about the speed except for the fact that jumping is faster than running in Gears two. What's up with that? What was going through their minds when people like Joe Graf decided that jumping should be faster than running!?!?

LiquidNitr0
06-29-2009, 08:38 PM
it is pretty slow for gears 2 :\

xhambonex
06-29-2009, 08:42 PM
I didn't say Gears 1 was perfect. However, it is leaps and bounds ahead of Gears 2, in my POV.

shotty and CMS aren't issues in Gears 1.

Good I'm glad you recognize its just a POV. Gears1 had its issues and still has many. It was mainly a 2 weapon game, shotty, snipe. Hence the change for Gears2.

Your Devastator
06-29-2009, 10:21 PM
Good I'm glad you recognize its just a POV. Gears1 had its issues and still has many. It was mainly a 2 weapon game, shotty, snipe. Hence the change for Gears2.

I'm not retarded dude.

not really.....I'll kill you with any weapon.

a lot of weapons are overpowered in Gears 2.....

Dilaudid281
06-29-2009, 10:35 PM
Good I'm glad you recognize its just a POV. Gears1 had its issues and still has many. It was mainly a 2 weapon game, shotty, snipe. Hence the change for Gears2.

Actually, that's not right. Torque, Boom, Snipe, Nades, Lancer, Shotgun and Boltok were widely used in Gears of War 1. The ONLY weapon that wasn't used much was the Hammerburst...which is reasonable, seeing as the Lancer variant was a Starting Weapon, and was powerful enough to get the job done.

Gun
06-29-2009, 10:40 PM
80.64%/19.33%
Increase/remain ratio.
6/29/09

xhambonex
06-30-2009, 12:26 AM
Actually, that's not right. Torque, Boom, Snipe, Nades, Lancer, Shotgun and Boltok were widely used in Gears of War 1. The ONLY weapon that wasn't used much was the Hammerburst...which is reasonable, seeing as the Lancer variant was a Starting Weapon, and was powerful enough to get the job done.

Yeah and every weapon is used in Gears2. But in comparison the shotgun/snipe was overly used in Gears1. The rest of those weapons are used about the same. The only exception is the boltak which is used way more in Gears2.

Your Devastator
06-30-2009, 12:27 AM
Yeah and every weapon is used in Gears2. But in comparison the shotgun/snipe was overly used in Gears1. The rest of those weapons are used about the same. The only exception is the boltak which is used way more in Gears2.

now you need to state that is just your pov. what is or isn't "overly" used. which is a joke in itself. lol