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legacy-undrtakr
09-25-2003, 01:45 AM
I was at the Alien-ware site(got linked from "Athlon 64 Proccesor!" post), and they had this thing where they compare your current PC with one of thier new PC's. So I tried it out, and all I can say is.........

http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/83821/0.jpg

...........I need a new PC:haha::confused::cry:

Go HERE (http://www.alienware.com/system_pages/aurora_ddr.aspx) and click the How does this system perform? link.

EDIT: Make sure you do it against the "Area-51 Extreme" comp.
Here's how you get to it:
1st- open the 'Performance Comparison' window for the "aurora enthusiast"
2nd- click on "List All Systems" link to find the Area-51 Extreme(it'll be the one at the top;))
3rd- Click "Compare Individually"

legacy-Icarus4
09-25-2003, 02:08 AM
Alienware PCs are awesome but I think Overdrive PCs are even more l33t.

legacy-Annihilator2003
09-25-2003, 02:24 AM
A High-performance system detected!
The Performance Analyzer has detected that this new Alienware-system does not offer performance increasement compared to your current system. Please click "Continue" to view other Alienware-models!



Woo, my system is 1337 :D :p

legacy-therealvader
09-25-2003, 02:29 AM
Your current
System Performance 100%

Area-51 Extreme 345%


Component Comparison
Your system ---------------------------- Area-51 Extreme

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 2411 MHz-----------Intel Pentium 4 3200 MHz

Graphics Chipset: GeForce FX 5600 Ultra -GeForceFX 5900 Ultra

Memory: 512 MB-------------------------1024 MB

OS: Microsoft Windows XP----------------Microsoft Windows XP

only 3 and a half times faster than my system:(

legacy-therealvader
09-25-2003, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by Annihilator2003
A High-performance system detected!
The Performance Analyzer has detected that this new Alienware-system does not offer performance increasement compared to your current system. Please click "Continue" to view other Alienware-models!



Woo, my system is 1337 :D :p

against the a-51 extreme?!?!?!?!

what do you have in that system?

legacy-yewnuhtee
09-25-2003, 02:53 AM
Your current
System Performance
100%

Area-51 Extreme
$2645
Compare Individually
2157%


Your system --- Area-51 Extreme

CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1656 MHz --- Intel Pentium 4 3200 MHz

Graphics Chipset: S3 ProSavage --- NVIDIA GeForceFX 5900 Ultra

Memory: 96 MB --- 1024 MB

OS: Microsoft Windows XP --- Microsoft Windows XP

legacy-Arclite
09-25-2003, 02:59 AM
WTF?

"A High-performance system detected!
The Performance Analyzer has detected that this new Alienware-system does not offer performance increasement compared to your current system. Please click "Continue" to view other Alienware-models!"

All i have is 2Ghz, 1GB ram, and GF 3. :weird:

legacy-shawneboy
09-25-2003, 03:53 AM
A High-performance system detected!
The Performance Analyzer has detected that this new Alienware-system does not offer performance increasement compared to your current system. Please click "Continue" to view other Alienware-models!

legacy-Morba
09-25-2003, 04:53 AM
overpriced crap that the only thing i would want one for is the case.

can build what they have done for a lot less and prolly stick it in a vapochil and oc it like mad to make evern better performance for less money.

only fools buy things like this tbh :]

legacy-nicky_baby
09-25-2003, 05:01 AM
:bulb:

Your current System Performance 100%

Area-51 Extreme $2645 (!) 239%
» Add to Cart (no thanks!)


Component Comparison
Your system Area-51 Extreme

CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1740 MHz - Intel Pentium 4 3200 MHz

Graphics Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600 - NVIDIA GeForceFX 5900 Ultra

Memory: 1024 MB - 1024 MB

OS: Microsoft Windows XP - Microsoft Windows XP

------------------------------------

I don't think so Alienware. For that kind of spec I would expect my computer to be raped into the ground. 250% performance doesn't sound too incredible!

There is obviously a big difference in the system's raw power but I think with all the new tech to come out (and mature) eg. 64bit technology etc.. I will wait.

legacy-nuclearfusion
09-25-2003, 07:14 AM
Hmm, only 302%.... I could've SWORN my comp sucked more than that :P


Your current
System Performance 100%




Area-51 Extreme
$2645 302%
» Add to Cart





Component Comparison
Your system Area-51 Extreme

CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1603 MHz Intel Pentium 4 3200 MHz

Graphics Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 NVIDIA GeForceFX 5900 Ultra

Memory: 512 MB 1024 MB

OS: Microsoft Windows XP Microsoft Windows XP

legacy-therealvader
09-25-2003, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by nicky_baby
:bulb:
» Add to Cart (no thanks!)



:haha: :haha:

legacy-Tobbe
09-25-2003, 07:31 AM
A High-performance system detected!!!
Our alienware just got 0wn3d!We suck!
We humbly apologizes for have taken up your time and bow in awe and amazement over your l33t PC´s supernatural powers!
:D

Edit: Ok that wasnt the Area 51 extreme.253% improvement it says.
Your system
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1735 MHz
Graphics Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600
Memory: 512 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows 98

Area-51 Extreme
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 3200 MHz
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForceFX 5900 Ultra
Memory: 1024 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows XP

legacy-Happy_Hamburger
09-25-2003, 07:35 AM
alienware sucks
just build your own PC

legacy-Rotgutsnotnose
09-25-2003, 08:02 AM
Mine 100 %

Alienware 150%

Not too bad really , perhaps a better graphics card needed
currently Geforce Ti 4800.

Anyone recommend a card to improve my system

legacy-Zorlag
09-25-2003, 08:26 AM
I get 181% increase with Extreme, or so it says. However I doubt it, only thing that it really has above my system is double memory. Other components are only about 10% or so slower than ones listed... But no comparison possibility against that new Athlon FX Aurora, now that could be pretty powerful. :)

Z.

legacy-*Holy_Surfing*
09-25-2003, 09:37 AM
hm...

My system's Performance = 100%
Area-51 Extreme = 227%

My System Specs:
Pentium IV @ 2.0 Ghz
512Mb DDR2100 RAM
Seagate 120Gb / 7200 RPM / 8 Mb cache
GeForce4 Ti4600
Sound Blaster Audigy
Windows XP Pro (SP1)

heh... mine's not that bad, i think =)

legacy-Khmer Spirit
09-25-2003, 10:01 AM
Alienware should be afraid of these guys:

http://www.go-l.com/desktops/machl38/features/index.htm

Mr. Brownstone
09-25-2003, 10:17 AM
Your current: 100%
Area-51 Extreme: 345%

Your system ------------------------ Area-51 Extreme

CPU: Unknown 2080 MHz ------------ Intel Pentium 4 3200 MHz

Graphics Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce3 -- NVIDIA GeForceFX 5900 Ultra

Memory: 1024 MB ------------------- 1024 MB

OS: Microsoft Windows XP ---------- Microsoft Windows XP

legacy-DarkBytes
09-25-2003, 10:18 AM
I got this answer compared to the aurora enthusiast


A High-performance system detected!
The Performance Analyzer has detected that this new Alienware-system does not offer performance increasement compared to your current system. Please click "Continue" to view other Alienware-models!



Alienware , Pwned :D
Dark out

legacy-Airjrdn
09-25-2003, 10:18 AM
A High-performance system detected!
The Performance Analyzer has detected that this new Alienware-system does not offer performance increasement compared to your current system. Please click "Continue" to view other Alienware-models!

I've got an AMS E-Cube with the following:

Intel 2.8Ghz 800Mhz FSB
ATI 128M Radeon 9700 Pro
Crucial XMS 512M DDR 400
120G ATA-133 HD

http://www.themintonfamily.com/galleries/albums/bill/aau.thumb.jpg (http://www.themintonfamily.com/modules.php?set_albumName=bill&id=aau&op=modload&name=../galleries&file=index&include=view_photo.php) http://www.themintonfamily.com/galleries/albums/bill/aav.thumb.jpg (http://www.themintonfamily.com/modules.php?set_albumName=bill&id=aav&op=modload&name=../galleries&file=index&include=view_photo.php)

legacy-!Wicked DUDE!
09-25-2003, 10:40 AM
some one post a direct link i cant find it o.O

EDIT: nvm found it lol

EDIT2:

CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1406 MHz -------- Intel Pentium 4 3200 MHz

Graphics Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 --------- NVIDIA GeForceFX 5900 Ultra

Memory: 512 MB -------- 1024 MB

OS: Microsoft Windows XP ----------- Microsoft Windows XP

its 301% better boo
:eek:

legacy-Shuri
09-25-2003, 10:48 AM
Your current System Performance 100%
Area-51 Extreme $2645 302%
» Add to Cart


Component Comparison
Your system Area-51 Extreme

CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1399 MHz Intel Pentium 4 3200 MHz

Graphics Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 NVIDIA GeForceFX 5900 Ultra

Memory: 512 MB 1024 MB

OS: Microsoft Windows XP Microsoft Windows XP

Woah... thought my system sucked much more :bulb:

legacy-!Wicked DUDE!
09-25-2003, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by Shuri

Your current System Performance 100%
Area-51 Extreme $2645 302%
» Add to Cart


Component Comparison
Your system Area-51 Extreme

CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1399 MHz Intel Pentium 4 3200 MHz

Graphics Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 NVIDIA GeForceFX 5900 Ultra

Memory: 512 MB 1024 MB

OS: Microsoft Windows XP Microsoft Windows XP

Woah... thought my system sucked much more :bulb:

same system :) i thought mine sucked aswell :( i wont have to upgrade so soon :)

legacy-Tropic
09-25-2003, 10:53 AM
Individual Gaming Performance Comparison
Here is a line-by-line comparison of your current system against an Alienware Area-51 Extreme system.




Your current System Performance 100%




Area-51 Extreme $2645 176% :haha:
» Add to Cart





Component Comparison
Your system Area-51 Extreme

CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 2163 MHz -------Intel Pentium 4 3200 MHz

Graphics Chipset: ATI RADEON 9800 Pro-------- NVIDIA GeForceFX 5900 Ultra

Memory: 512 MB------------------------ 1024 MB

OS: Microsoft Windows XP--------------------- Microsoft Windows XP


wow for $2645? now thats a total rip off:p I built mine for less then half that:haha:

legacy-Gaal Dornik
09-25-2003, 01:48 PM
My system: 100
Area-51 Extreme: 178

But every system equipped with an ATI R300 powered card is better then that nVidia Aliencrap

CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 2087 MHz
Graphics Chipset: ATI RADEON 9700 Pro
Memory: 512 MB
OS: Microsoft Windows XP

legacy-Crofty
09-25-2003, 02:00 PM
My system is more or less the same except for the cpu and memory speed.
Mine 100%
Alienware 143%

Ill stick with mine for at least anther 12 months I think..... or until Im happy about 64 bit processors and PCI express

legacy-Radeon285
09-25-2003, 02:03 PM
they should have a thing setup comparing how much it would cost to build a computer compared to buying an Alienware comp :p

lets see....

Alienware: $2400
Custom: Far less than ^

legacy-jatfield
09-25-2003, 02:13 PM
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1397 MHz ----------Intel Pentium 4 3200 MHz

Graphics Chipset: ATI RADEON 9700 --------------- GeForceFX 5900 Ultra

Memory: 384 MB ---------------------------------1024 MB

OS: Microsoft Windows XP ----------------------Microsoft Windows XP

288%

I have a 9500Pro, though. Stupid plugin! :p

legacy-Oddside
09-25-2003, 02:33 PM
Here is mine;

Your current System Performance 100%

Area-51 Extreme 520%

Component Comparison
Your system --------Area-51 Extreme

CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1477 MHz -------Intel Pentium 4 3200 MHz

Graphics Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX440-------- NVIDIA GeForceFX 5900 Ultra

Memory: 256MB------------------------ 1024 MB

OS: Microsoft Windows 98--------------------- Microsoft Windows XP

520% is less than i expected. I thought the difference would be much more for some reason!
Also, does this take into account any overclocking of the graphics card? (probably a daft question)

legacy-Toonces T. Cat
09-25-2003, 04:06 PM
Oh yes!


http://deadcats.teamut.com/640files/awperfcomp.jpg


Go here if you'd like to see the machine:


http://deadcats.teamut.com/DeadCatPC.html


-Toonces...:D

legacy-Ass2iN
09-25-2003, 04:32 PM
Your current System Performance -100%
Area-51 Extreme - 208%
$2645
Aurora Extreme - 136%
$2542
Area-51 Enthusiast -114%
pretty good
considering my system was $1200

legacy-DeathGoblinX
09-25-2003, 06:37 PM
I was owned!

http://www.photocountry.com/users/9505/Perfomance.jpg

legacy-Corosus
09-25-2003, 06:40 PM
I selected "my pc is better" because I didn't waste my money.

legacy-O27
09-25-2003, 06:47 PM
the alienware 51 extreme does 152% of mine

wewt, thats not bad :D

legacy-Powerslave666
09-25-2003, 06:48 PM
Cool system, but wouldn't it be cheaper if you built a rig like that one from scratch?

legacy-Corosus
09-25-2003, 06:58 PM
My Computer:
http://members.rogers.com/korosus/alienvsme.jpg

Coroserver:
http://members.rogers.com/korosus/alienvscoroserver.jpg

legacy-StaticZero
09-25-2003, 07:11 PM
Your current
System Performance 100%

Area-51™ Extreme $2645 159%

Component Comparison
Your system ---------------- Area-51™ Extreme

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 2533 MHz ---------- Intel Pentium 4 3200 MHz

Graphics Chipset: ATI RADEON 9700 PRO ----------- NVIDIA GeForceFX 5900 Ultra

Memory: 768 MB ----------------- 1024 MB

OS: Microsoft Windows XP ---- Microsoft Windows XP



I paid $2,400 for two computers several months ago.:bulb:

legacy-stoker6
09-25-2003, 09:30 PM
Wow! Thats really expensive for that extreme system. I built mine for under $1500 and that includes z680's and a SB audigy II! And that was over 7 months ago when the prices were higher.

Edit: I do need to clarify that I used the RAM, CD/RW, CD/ROM, floppy, 40G HD, and case from my old system.

http://www.fototime.com/733A7FFE36235BD/orig.jpg

legacy-CaptainZap
09-25-2003, 10:05 PM
A High-performance system detected!
The Performance Analyzer has detected that this new Alienware-system does not offer performance increasement compared to your current system. Please click "Continue" to view other Alienware-models!

Your current
System Performance
100%

Area-51 Extreme $2645
Compare Individually
171%

Aurora Extreme $2542
Compare Individually
112%

:o :up:

Edit: Nice system stoker6. :) :up:

legacy-A2597
09-25-2003, 10:32 PM
185% compared to mine...

prolly the processor and ram...and my card...

me specs:

Radeon 9800np
768 megs DDR 2100
2.1ghz Athlon 2600+
WinXP Pro

legacy-MandyLifeboats
09-26-2003, 12:01 AM
http://geordie69.users.btopenworld.com/alienware.JPG

:D

I don't think I'll upgrade just yet.

ML :)

legacy-undrtakr
09-26-2003, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by Arclite
WTF?

"A High-performance system detected!
The Performance Analyzer has detected that this new Alienware-system does not offer performance increasement compared to your current system. Please click "Continue" to view other Alienware-models!"

All i have is 2Ghz, 1GB ram, and GF 3. :weird:

Did you do it against the Area-51 PC?:bulb:

legacy-undrtakr
09-26-2003, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by Happy_Hamburger
alienware sucks
just build your own PC

Yeah, I know it would be cheaper to just build a PC yourself, but this is just a comparision post. Not a "OMFG you have to get this PC!" post, although with a 4000+% increase I wouldn't mind having it, lol:p

legacy-undrtakr
09-26-2003, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by DarkBytes
I got this answer compared to the aurora enthusiast


A High-performance system detected!
The Performance Analyzer has detected that this new Alienware-system does not offer performance increasement compared to your current system. Please click "Continue" to view other Alienware-models!



Alienware , Pwned :D
Dark out

No, you was suppose to do it against the Area-51 comp.

After you open the window comparision for the "aurora enthusiast", click on a link called List all, and at the top you will find the Area-51 comp.

legacy-undrtakr
09-26-2003, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by Oddside

Also, does this take into account any overclocking of the graphics card? (probably a daft question)

How do you overclock your graphics card? And how does it help your system?

Can I overclock my 32mb Radeon 7000?:bulb::up:

legacy-undrtakr
09-26-2003, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by DeathGoblinX
I was owned!

http://www.photocountry.com/users/9505/Perfomance.jpg

Not as bad as me:confused:

legacy-therealvader
09-26-2003, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by Radeon285
they should have a thing setup comparing how much it would cost to build a computer compared to buying an Alienware comp :p

lets see....

Alienware: $2400
Custom: Far less than ^

out of sheer boredom, i did a little comparison.

all prices off www.pricewatch.com (except for memory, which is from crucial). I also switched the mobo from the P.O.S. Intel D875RB7 to a decent ASUS P4C800. both boards are around the same price, so no huge difference.

Dragon mid-tower case--$77
(same case as the alienware dragon w/o alienware logo from www.colorcases.com)

Thermaltake 420w power supply--$47

3.2Ghz P4 800 FSB 512 L2--$598

Cooler master fan--$45

AsusP4C800--$170

2 sticks of Crucial 512MB PC3200--$188

FX5900 Ultra 256MB--$375

120GB ATA-100 Seagate barracuda 7200rpm 8MB cache--$97

Generic DVD-ROM(no specific model on alienware site)--$28

Lite-On 52x32x52 CD-RW--$39

SB Audigy 2 6.1--71

128MB USB flash drive(wtf??? i kept it in to be fair)--$47

3.5" Floppy drive--$9

XP Home(no pro?????)--$190
I would add pro so lets call it $290

Misc. fans/cables/bullsh@t--$47

Grand total= $2128

So is the Alienware woth the extra 500 bones? you get a kick ass case, proprietary cooling, a warranty and you dont have to deal with building/installing anything. For me, i like building systems, so id just go with my building my own.

legacy-soddingbollox
09-26-2003, 05:48 AM
105%.... dammit!!!!! so close..

legacy-CyberT
09-26-2003, 08:35 AM
Your current System Performance 100%
Component Comparison Area-51 Extreme 4328%

It's official... my work PC really sux ass.... :D

legacy-Oddside
09-26-2003, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by undrtakr
How do you overclock your graphics card? And how does it help your system?

Can I overclock my 32mb Radeon 7000?:bulb::up:

Yes you 'can' overclock your card using a utility such as
Rage3D Tweak (http://www.rage3d.com/r3dtweak)
or
Rivatuner (http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?page=rivatuner&menu=8)

Overclocking simply increases the Core clock speed and/or memory clock speed of your graphics card. In doing this the maximum possible throughput of the card will increase, this will make games run faster as long as the CPU can supply enough data i.e. can the CPU generate data as fast as the card can recieve it?
So basically if the CPU is the limiting factor overclocking will not help much. However, if the CPU isnt the limiting factor then it will help, how much it helps depends on how much you increase the clock speed(s).

Though be Warned! the extra heat generated by the GPU/RAM can shorten the life of the card and if it gets too excessive it can damage the card permanently. Apparently a relatively safe overclock with standard cooling is 10% of the stock speed (or so i have read).
(oh and overclocking totally invalidates any warranty AFAIK)
IMO the best thing to do is read up on the subject (so you know exactly whats what) and then decide if you think it's worth it.:up:
oh and if i have made any mistakes feel free to correct them.




DISCLAIMER: I take no responsibility for any damage you cause to your PC (if any) from what i have told you.

legacy-rahsas
09-26-2003, 10:54 AM
Here are my scores on my little test machine.

http://www.rahsas.com/images/alienware.gif

Not too bad considering it has a crappy 5200 FX thrown in there.

legacy-zacharypike
09-26-2003, 11:11 AM
sorr man i dont mean to take your but yahoo wont enhance mine at all.mines the same as his its just that it has a768 DDR ram and a geforece 5600 256 video card and a AMD 1800.i got the sme score.

http://geordie69.users.btopenworld.com/alienware.JPG

legacy-undrtakr
09-26-2003, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by CyberT
Your current System Performance 100%
Component Comparison Area-51 Extreme 4328%

It's official... my work PC really sux ass.... :D

LOL, compared to mines it 4532% better, lol.

What 's your specs?

legacy-j00f00
09-26-2003, 07:25 PM
Main computer:
http://www.flying-panda.net/images/002/awextreme_vs_dellgx270.gif

It's has been on for a few days, so it doesn't represent how it would perform on a fresh boot.

IMO, it's not worth spending that much on a new rig when it's cheaper to just build another one in the first place.

I'll compare it to my game server. If I remember correctly, the older area-51 was in the hundred-thousand percent range. :D

legacy-octalc0de
09-26-2003, 07:35 PM
700% against a crappy system. :cool:

legacy-j00f00
09-26-2003, 07:38 PM
This was actually higher than I had expected, but here's the comparison of my soldat server (my old computer).

http://www.flying-panda.net/images/002/awextreme_vs_ghettoultra.gif

:bulb:

legacy-DarK
09-26-2003, 07:47 PM
yes my computer is worth 5000% of what a Alien ware is worth.

(sarcasme)

legacy-Blade0927
09-26-2003, 08:00 PM
lol u got a 700mhz celeron. what do u expect :haha:

legacy-FineWolf
09-26-2003, 08:03 PM
teh pics says it all:

http://finewolf.colute.net/forum/files/compare.jpg
http://finewolf.colute.net/forum/files/compare2.jpg

Also, for an unknown reason, it says I have a Quadro4 when I have a GeForce 4 MX 440

legacy-Sailor_Saturn
09-26-2003, 08:39 PM
Good god, $25,000 for this monitor, look at its specs!
http://www.sailorscoutsclan.com/media/omg.jpg

http://www.go-l.com/monitors/index.htm


I love these people!

http://www.go-l.com/desktops/index.htm

legacy-vhx
09-26-2003, 08:46 PM
Your current
System Performance 100%

Aurora™ Enthusiast
$1873 106%


Component Comparison
Your system Aurora™ Enthusiast

CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1820 MHz
-> AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 2167 MHz

Graphics Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
-> NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 Ultra

Memory: 512 MB
-> 512 MB

OS: Microsoft Windows XP Microsoft Windows XP

My specs are the top ones, lmao 2000 bucks for a 6% increase? errr no, I built this for like 500 bucks. Perhaps I should start a company called humanware and do the same thing they do... :D

edit:
Your current
System Performance 100%

Area-51™ Extreme
$2649 242%

Component Comparison
Your system Area-51™ Extreme

CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1820 MHz
-> Intel Pentium 4 3200 MHz

Graphics Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
-> NVIDIA GeForceFX 5900 Ultra

Memory: 512 MB
->1024 MB

OS: Microsoft Windows XP Microsoft Windows XP

Hmm bigger increase than 6%

legacy-[ada]Navi
09-26-2003, 09:59 PM
AMD 2200+ @ 1.83Ghz
FIC Radeon 9500 PRO 128MB
512MB Crucial PC2700 DDR333
Windows 2000

current:
100%

---

Area-51 Extreme:
231% :rolleyes:

Aurora Extreme:
151% :rolleyes:

Area-51 Enthusiast:
126% :rolleyes:

Aurora Enthusiast:
101% PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT

comment for all these systems:
yawn 5900 ultra? no thanks.
yawn win XP? no thanks.

alienware is overpriced crap gg paying $200-500 more than the comp is worth for a gay case.

legacy-BEG
09-26-2003, 10:50 PM
For some strange reason their site wanted me to downgrade both my browser and my OS before it would let me take the test. Must've been afraid or something. ;)


http://beg_ne.home.att.net/alienware_compare.jpg

http://beg_ne.home.att.net/about.jpg

legacy-j00f00
09-26-2003, 11:06 PM
"Downgrade"?



Nope :P

legacy-undrtakr
09-27-2003, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by Blade0927
lol u got a 700mhz celeron. what do u expect :haha:

:cry:

legacy-undrtakr
09-27-2003, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by Sailor_Saturn
Good god, $25,000 for this monitor, look at its specs!
http://www.sailorscoutsclan.com/media/omg.jpg


Nice!:eek:

Hey if you play with one of those screens will you be able to see more than you could than if you just had a single screen.
Like be able to look at another screen and it would show teammates on your left, right, etc. ANd doesn't it add extra stress to your video card?

Even if it doesn't that still a cool monitor:cool:

legacy-Val_Parthen
09-27-2003, 12:40 AM
http://kirby.colorado.edu/jrr/images/misc/alien.jpg

That's my PII-300, Voodoo 5 5500 AGP and 225 megs of ram.

My P1 266 Laptop with 64 ram is coming next. :D

Edit://

Wow, I'm surprised that it beats the AMD 500 Mhz. Hah, take that. What a difference 12 megs of ram and a newer operating system will make INSTEAD OF 233 MHz.

http://kirby.colorado.edu/jrr/images/misc/alien2.jpg

legacy-st_trooper
09-27-2003, 04:40 AM
lol, funny as hell.

legacy-BTCOMM
09-27-2003, 05:09 AM
I think that thing is smoking some drugs. I have a 2800+ CPU running at above a 3200+ CPU, 9800 pro, 1024 mem and because of the way my CPU is clocked it says it's an unknown CPU. So it tells me that

AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 2167 MHz

NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 Ultra

512 MB of ram.

Is 133% better.

LOL :haha: :haha: :haha:

legacy-JaFO(JBE)
09-27-2003, 06:04 AM
Given that they use the FutureMark-database to compare the systems I'm guessing that it just picks the 'wrong' system to compare against the Alienware-system.

/me vs their 'Performance' = 'High performance system detected'
(Given that I've got a R8500LE and 1Gb memory compared to their FX5200 & 512 Mb memory tells me that GeFarce card must be real crappy performer)



Component Comparison
Your system 100%
Area-51 Extreme 310%

CPU: Unknown 2080 MHz Intel Pentium 4 3200 MHz

Graphics Chipset: ATI RADEON 8500 Series NVIDIA GeForceFX 5900 Ultra

Memory: 1024 MB 1024 MB

OS: Microsoft Windows 2000 Microsoft Windows XP

(somehow it couldn't read the AMD 2800+ XP Barton I've got)

legacy--ProXImus-
09-27-2003, 06:06 AM
133% better then mine

legacy-Mullins1060
09-27-2003, 06:40 AM
Your current
System Performance 100%

Area-51™ Extreme
$2649 295%
» Add to Cart

Component Comparison
Your system Area-51™ Extreme

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 1793 MHz Intel Pentium 4 3200 MHz

Graphics Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 NVIDIA GeForceFX 5900 Ultra

Memory: 512 MB 1024 MB

OS: Microsoft Windows XP Microsoft Windows XP


lol and i thought i had a really really bad pc

legacy-Jun2
09-27-2003, 08:54 AM
Performed a lot better than I expected. I should've used all my RAM (1.5GB). I thought it was gonna be 3000% or something. Windows ME sux!!! :down:

http://www2.hawaii.edu/~otibar/UH/comp1.jpg
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~otibar/UH/comp.jpg

legacy-MikeSobe
09-27-2003, 08:58 AM
187% Better..... not that bad. Its not even double.

legacy-Sailor_Saturn
09-27-2003, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by undrtakr
Nice!:eek:

Hey if you play with one of those screens will you be able to see more than you could than if you just had a single screen.
Like be able to look at another screen and it would show teammates on your left, right, etc. ANd doesn't it add extra stress to your video card?

Even if it doesn't that still a cool monitor:cool:


lol, look at the stuff on their website, amazing "personal supercomputer" :D "professional Overclocking" 3.8ghz, 930mgzfsb:D:D

lol, guess ill havta start saving up my lunch money lol. They ship with 9800pro btw, tho i think theyre setup in a special way to allow for a second video card. one is like used for windows and another is used for 3d? i dont think ut2003 would run at a resolution like that (the 92inch grand canyon one had a max res of like 5200x1200) so it would probably be better to play ut2003 in a window with a resolution like that.

legacy-BabyNuke
09-27-2003, 09:16 AM
516% compared to the Area-51 Extreme

Component Comparison
Your system Area-51 Extreme

CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1526 MHz Intel Pentium 4 3200 MHz

Graphics Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS/Pro/Ti NVIDIA GeForceFX 5900 Ultra

Memory: 256 MB 1024 MB

OS: Microsoft Windows XP Microsoft Windows XP

legacy-Sailor_Saturn
09-27-2003, 09:22 AM
http://www.sailorscoutsclan.com/media/woah.jpg
http://www.sailorscoutsclan.com/media/heh.jpg

legacy-DarK
09-27-2003, 09:55 AM
It's 1337% better than my comp I run my server on.:p

legacy-undrtakr
09-27-2003, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by DarkMatrix
It's 1337% better than my comp I run my server on.:p

Hey do you have to pay to run servers?

Cause I remember before when me and my friends try to play Ureal or UT, I would make a server, and they never could find it(vis versa for them). Even when they entered my IP address they still couldn't connect. So we just had to join a server that was already made.

SO do you have to do something special if you wanna host a server and have outehr people see it online?:bulb:

legacy-!Wicked DUDE!
09-28-2003, 04:57 AM
you have to not have a ruter oO

legacy-[FSB]Med
09-28-2003, 06:13 AM
Surprise, surprise :rolleyes:

http://www.dyonisis.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/extreme2.jpg

The only cool thing about Alienware is the Case :)

That test doesnt take into account my Peltier/water cooled 9800Pro, Pioneer 106 DVR and modded Vapochill case ;)

legacy-st_trooper
09-28-2003, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by [FSB]Med

The only cool thing about Alienware is the Case :)
It doesn't have a window.

Window = must have!;)

legacy-Scoshi_Tiger
09-28-2003, 09:01 AM
Me Them
Intel Pentium 4 2666 MHz Intel Pentium 4 3200 MHz

ATI RADEON 9600 Series NVIDIA GeForceFX 5900 Ultra

512 MB 1024 MB

Microsoft Windows XP Microsoft Windows XP


71% increase

legacy-information21
09-29-2003, 03:24 AM
Originally posted by [FSB]Med
Surprise, surprise :rolleyes:

http://www.dyonisis.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/extreme2.jpg

I was waiting for you to post knowing you would either match or beat it. :p

512 RAM in a machine like that? :confused:

Either you didn't care to have more ... or you couldn't afford it cause everything else cost out the ass. ;)

legacy-Scoshi_Tiger
09-29-2003, 05:01 AM
Originally posted by Scoshi_Tiger
Me Them
Intel Pentium 4 2666 MHz Intel Pentium 4 3200 MHz

ATI RADEON 9600 Series NVIDIA GeForceFX 5900 Ultra

512 MB 1024 MB

Microsoft Windows XP Microsoft Windows XP


71% increase

oh yeh, the best thing about this; I only spent £460 on my comp :haha:

legacy-P3nT4gR4m
09-29-2003, 05:01 AM
Will somone post a link? I've been trying to find it for half an hour now.

legacy-Own3ed
01-09-2005, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by FineWolf
teh pics says it all:

http://finewolf.colute.net/forum/files/compare.jpg
http://finewolf.colute.net/forum/files/compare2.jpg

Also, for an unknown reason, it says I have a Quadro4 when I have a GeForce 4 MX 440

I can't see these pictures.:confused:

Flak
01-09-2005, 11:52 AM
OMG that company is crazy!
You could build this yourself for around 600 bucks and they want 1249??

AFTER rebate? Do people really buy pcs from them?

Processor
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor
with HT Technology 2.8GHz
Operating System
Microsoft® Windows®
XP Home Edition
Memory
512MB Dual Channel DDR
PC-3200 SDRAM 400MHz
Hard Drive
80GB Seagate® SATA
with 8MB Cache
Graphics Processor
ATI RADEON™
9550SE 128MB DDR
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster®
Audigy® 2 ZS 7.1 HD Audio

Processor
AMD Athlon™ 64
3500+ Processor
Operating System
Microsoft® Windows®
XP Home Edition
Memory
1GB Dual Channel DDR
PC-3200 SDRAM 400MHz
Hard Drive
160GB Seagate® SATA
with 8MB Cache
Graphics Processor
ATI RADEON™
9550SE 128MB
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster®
Audigy® 2 ZS 7.1 HD Audio
Starting at:
$1,249.00
After $350 Mail-In Rebate.

legacy-TheDeacon
01-09-2005, 01:40 PM
The only nice thing about Alienware is their cases....

Does anyone know if it's possible to purchase cases that look like Alienware's or really, if there's a really good place to order decent looking (i.e. - something stylish, not a big box) cases from?

Heh, I'm actually working on an alienware computer right now that was brought into my shop. They aren't much special....

This particular system has a busted hard drive due to poor construction. The video card is pressing so hard against the sata cable the it broke the controller. The guy paid 7000 bucks for the system a year ago...7000 BUCKS!!!

Out of curiosity, I priuced out what it would have cost me to build the system a year ago and how much I would have sold it for....keep in mind Alienware has a lower parts cost than my company.

I came up with a figure of like $3500 bucks, which is how much I would have sold it for.....I just have a hard time believing that people will pay an extra $3500 for hype :p

P.T. Barnum said "there's a sucker born every minute"...

legacy-TheDeacon
01-09-2005, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by [NBS]Flak
OMG that company is crazy!
You could build this yourself for around 600 bucks and they want 1249??

AFTER rebate? Do people really buy pcs from them?

Processor
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor
with HT Technology 2.8GHz
Operating System
Microsoft® Windows®
XP Home Edition
Memory
512MB Dual Channel DDR
PC-3200 SDRAM 400MHz
Hard Drive
80GB Seagate® SATA
with 8MB Cache
Graphics Processor
ATI RADEON™
9550SE 128MB DDR
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster®
Audigy® 2 ZS 7.1 HD Audio

Processor
AMD Athlon™ 64
3500+ Processor
Operating System
Microsoft® Windows®
XP Home Edition
Memory
1GB Dual Channel DDR
PC-3200 SDRAM 400MHz
Hard Drive
160GB Seagate® SATA
with 8MB Cache
Graphics Processor
ATI RADEON™
9550SE 128MB
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster®
Audigy® 2 ZS 7.1 HD Audio
Starting at:
$1,249.00
After $350 Mail-In Rebate.

They actually want $1549 :D Mail in rebates take something like 6 weeks to infinity to arrive. I'm expecting a $10 rebate back from Linksys sometime around judgment day, maybe a little afterwards.

Slainchild
01-09-2005, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by CaTdAeMoN
cant find the button (cant be bothered, too much work :p)
I want a button too :D

legacy-Xerus
01-09-2005, 04:04 PM
Why the hell was this topic dug up? I just spent a long time looking for the god damn link, only to find its probably not even there anymore because this thread is from september of 2003

legacy-marshdabeachy
01-09-2005, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by Own3ed
I can't see these pictures.:confused:

You suck. You can't see the pictures because they were deleted a year and a half ago, back when this thread actually had a point.

legacy-S3Y3N
01-09-2005, 06:09 PM
lol, i cant believe someone would bring this thread back up. Why not just start a new one since the test doesnt even exist anymore.

Anyhow, my opinion on Alienware is that they are way overpriced, but people still buy them mainly because of a few sensible reasons 1)TIME - not everyone has time to build there on computer in this day and age(or want to bother figuring it out), probably because a lot of people hate computers to begin with and just want to use them for what theyre worth, especially with fast paced lives of the average working adult or college kid taking a full load of hours, or do the research to get the perfect computer and still save money( even though thats easy to do these days) 2)WARRANTY - Their warranty and 24/7 customer support is excellent and you cant beat tech support that you know they will fix a problem easily and quickly, which is good when youre in a crunch and you arent tech-saavy. 3)RESELLABILITY - Alienware computers honestly have the best resales in the industry, perfect for investing towards that next computer or when you need money fast and you know youre gonna get it. Alienware computers are known to be built with quality control which matches what you pay for, although it can make the customer support cheaper for Alien-ware because most of their problems will not be hard-ware related (assuming flaws in the hardware are not due to the build of the system).

Those reasons alone will prove why they sell so well, and of course its always going to be cheaper to build your own computer, but that means dealing with problems along the way and maybe even frying a motherboard or two, learning whats not compatible with what the hard-way, and trouble-shooting problems without always knowing if you are going to have to spend some money fixing them. With that said, the community will always be divided but as time passes I believe more and more will switch over to the do-it-your selfer.

GLHF

legacy-TheDeacon
01-10-2005, 03:27 AM
Originally posted by S3Y3N
[B]lol, i cant believe someone would bring this thread back up. Why not just start a new one since the test doesnt even exist anymore.

Anyhow, my opinion on Alienware is that they are way overpriced, but people still buy them mainly because of a few sensible reasons 1)TIME - not everyone has time to build there on computer in this day and age(or want to bother figuring it out), probably because a lot of people hate computers to begin with and just want to use them for what theyre worth, especially with fast paced lives of the average working adult or college kid taking a full load of hours, or do the research to get the perfect computer and still save money( even though thats easy to do these days)

Takes under an hour to assemble a system and begin an unattended windows xp installation. This includes wire ties and other beautifications.



2)WARRANTY - Their warranty and 24/7 customer support is excellent and you cant beat tech support that you know they will fix a problem easily and quickly, which is good when youre in a crunch and you arent tech-saavy.

Their tech support is as awful and incompetant as any phone tech support. Rule of thumb: If you can't see it, you can't properly fix it. When phone tech support actually DOES fix something, I equate it to blindfolding a man, giving him a gun and telling him to shoot something....eventually he'll get a hit, but more often than not a miss.

Strange that phone tech support is preferable to having a technician come to your home and fix it.....and wow, shipping on a 70 pound computer (I swear they stick lead weights in their cases lol) isn't fun....neither is being without your computer for weeks.


3)RESELLABILITY - Alienware computers honestly have the best resales in the industry, perfect for investing towards that next computer or when you need money fast and you know youre gonna get it. Alienware computers are known to be built with quality control which matches what you pay for, although it can make the customer support cheaper for Alien-ware because most of their problems will not be hard-ware related (assuming flaws in the hardware are not due to the build of the system).

I agree. Most system builders don't put any thought into the parts or the cases they use. All they care about is using the cheapest parts possible, maximizing their profits. You're left with a cheap looking and cheap feeling computer.


Those reasons alone will prove why they sell so well, and of course its always going to be cheaper to build your own computer, but that means dealing with problems along the way and maybe even frying a motherboard or two, learning whats not compatible with what the hard-way, and trouble-shooting problems without always knowing if you are going to have to spend some money fixing them. With that said, the community will always be divided but as time passes I believe more and more will switch over to the do-it-your selfer.

This is true, but that doesn't make Alienware the optimal solution. the *ONLY* advantage they have is that kickass case. Again, DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A NICE CASE DISTRIBUTOR? :p

by "Nice" I mean, exotic, fun looking cases. A square metal box painted red is still a square metal box....

legacy-Zygar
01-10-2005, 03:45 AM
This (http://www.stylespc.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=3000&cat=398&page=1) is a very Alienware-ish looking case. Personally though, I prefer to have a good looking simple case (such as a Lian-Li) to something like that.

legacy-*Area-51*
01-10-2005, 12:57 PM
I own an Alienware laptop. I've owned many Dell and Sony laptops and have been frustrated with every one of them. My experience with Alienware has been wonderful, and until you own one, you have no right to bash the company. My two cents. :mad:

legacy-MrScruff
01-10-2005, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by *Area-51*
two cents. :mad: <---his bank balance after buying alienware. Make your own. way cheaper + better.

legacy-LittleDonny
01-10-2005, 04:24 PM
Definitely my dual CPU Powermac outperforms it in digital video editing/rendering tasks. No doubt about it.

AmericanWoman
01-10-2005, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by *Area-51*
I own an Alienware laptop. I've owned many Dell and Sony laptops and have been frustrated with every one of them. My experience with Alienware has been wonderful, and until you own one, you have no right to bash the company. My two cents. :mad:
http://tinypic.com/17yd0n
:bulb:

legacy-MajikMyst
01-10-2005, 06:54 PM
I built my PC. It looks awsome. Not that looks has anything to do with performance. It owned any Alien PC on the market at the time I built it. Give me unlimited funds and I will upgrade my computer continiously and constantly own the latest Alien PC.

If your computer doesn't compare. No worries. Your PC is out of date. It doesn't suck. Take a peek at how often the top of the line Alien PC changes specs. They constantly upgrade it as new technology is available. I don't have $600 to buy the latest video card every few months.

Alienware is nothing more than a flashy name to allow them to charge more for a computer. I will build my PC from hand picked components. It costs less to buy the parts and build it than it does to let someone else build it. There is nothing serviceable in a computer. If it breaks then it needs to be replaced. If your problem is software then reformat your hard drive and reinstall windows. That fixes everything. There is 90% of being a computer tech. in one paragraph.

Another thought is how much does Alienware charge for the flashy colors and custom case that looks cool but doesn't absolutely nothing for the performance of your computer? Whether your case is painted blue at a factory or your cut loose with a can of spray paint. Your computer will run the same. The biggist issue to consider in a case is cooling and upgradeability. Cooling being the most important. :cool:

legacy-TheRealPlayer
01-10-2005, 07:03 PM
I have an Alienware laptop, but that is only because when I shopped around, they had the best gaming laptops. If I knew how to build my own LAPTOP, I would have :(

KriLL3.8™
01-10-2005, 09:52 PM
Could someone provide a direct link? I read his instructions and there are no links nor buttons named even something remotly like the once he's talking about.

legacy-Xerus
01-10-2005, 10:18 PM
Maybe because this topic is A YEAR OLD

KriLL3.8™
01-10-2005, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by Xerus
Maybe because this topic is A YEAR OLD

OMG LIKE DUH! :bulb:

legacy-Esproc
01-10-2005, 10:54 PM
i cant find it :cry:

legacy-TheDeacon
01-10-2005, 11:48 PM
Sorry, but if I got a laptop, it'd be a mac.

Building my own is too pricey, even with my reseller discounts and I have serious issues with giving money to hp/compaq, dell or especially gateway and toshiba (the latter is absolutely horrible. Customer of mine purchased 5 toshiba laptops and has had problems with 3 in the 1 month that they've own them).

I deal with these companies all the time, so I know how utterly incompetant they are.

But the truth of the matter is that I wouldn't buy a laptop at all, pure waste of money. Replacement parts are ridiculous and like a PC, they're flimsy and break down often. Silly crap like $1200 for a replacement screen or motherboard shows how much the manufacturers really care about their customers. They give you an inferior product and then charge you out the ass when it breaks down. Warranty? Aside from Dell (who I admit doesn't hassle as much as gateway), they'll usually try to weasle their weay out of honoring it. No thanks.

legacy-S3Y3N
01-11-2005, 05:08 AM
I see your points Deacon, but mind you, not everyone in the world has the TIME to build their own systems. And you saying it takes under an hour to build a system is going on the fact you know what youre doing every step of the way and dont run into any problems. Most people who are doing it for the first time do not succeed in under an hour unless they have done exponential research and/or have someone to help them. I remember building my first one and I had to stop and work on it the next day after spending atleast 2-3 hours on it. Main problem was the case I was using was using torx screws and made for a meticulous task of putting the motherboard in, not to mention the cpu backplate had to come off and be replaced with the one for my heatsink, which was also a pain in the ass to put on and took atleast 20 minutes. No one remembers everything they are suppost to do when they put a pc together the first time, so Id say the time for research plus time to put it together can be worth more to someone thats busier with other things and has the cash to burn.

And about laptops....saying they are a complete waste of money is not true at all. You should keep in mind that when you buy a notebook, you are getting both a computer and a display. If you buy, say, a $1,400 PC and a $500 monitor, you're approaching the price range that will start to get you a decent notebook. But there is no standard design for notebooks. Every company that makes portable PCs has its own ideas about how to do it right. And every company feverishly competes to come up with new designs that pack more features into less space.

That's not easy. It requires lots of money invested in research and development.

On top of that, the market for portables is not as big as that for desktops. There aren't the economies of scale that come with a massive, commodity-like market.

Finally, the cost of active-matrix color LCD screens can be quite high. They cost more than passive-matrix screens, which are dimmer and don't refresh the image as quickly, but they're worth it.

With that in mind maybe you will understand why many people buy laptops, especially for work, and when they dont need them anymore they are recyclable, as in you can pass them on to your kids, which can really make them go a long way.

legacy-WoW Punisher
01-11-2005, 08:15 AM
mine is fast with the software renderer, no lag but the graphics seem N64-ish though. otherwise uber fast compy.

The5thviruz
01-11-2005, 08:20 AM
Can someone link me to a laptop case with nothing in it...then i'll stick the components inside. :o

legacy-MrScruff
01-11-2005, 08:38 AM
I RECKON THE PERSON HO SUG UP THIS THREAD SHOULD GET A WL, same as i did:

MrScruff,


You are being warned for making this post: http://ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=5927343#post5927343

i got 3 so should he/she/that dumbass. :mad:



:D

but still....

legacy-MajikMyst
01-11-2005, 03:52 PM
You all talk about how long it takes to build a computer. Sheeesh. Take an hour or two of your gaming time and build a computer.

Also, I just priced out the top machine at Alienware. They still don't have the complete specs that I wanted. I never saw where you can select ECC ram over non ECC ram. Where can you specify hard drive manufacturer? Can you have the 4 drives set up as a raid? Non of these options were available to me at their website.

Ok for the numbers. Their system was over $3000+shipping.

I priced out the same system with a few unavialable extras, like choosing my own mainboard. $1800 and no shipping. These are all top of the line components. Configured how I want with the brand of components I want. Not bad for a do it yourself computer.

legacy-TheDeacon
01-11-2005, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by MajikMyst
You all talk about how long it takes to build a computer. Sheeesh. Take an hour or two of your gaming time and build a computer.

Also, I just priced out the top machine at Alienware. They still don't have the complete specs that I wanted. I never saw where you can select ECC ram over non ECC ram. Where can you specify hard drive manufacturer? Can you have the 4 drives set up as a raid? Non of these options were available to me at their website.

Ok for the numbers. Their system was over $3000+shipping.

I priced out the same system with a few unavialable extras, like choosing my own mainboard. $1800 and no shipping. These are all top of the line components. Configured how I want with the brand of components I want. Not bad for a do it yourself computer.

THANK YOU!!!!

People can play ut for 6 hours on end, but don't have time to build a comp? :p

First comp I built was in the early to mid 80's and I was about 9 years old at the time. Granted I always had an unusual knack with electronics, but it didn't seem overly hard at the time....Except for the fact that the junk computer I was building from scrap parts had a bad capacitor and a severed lead on the motherboard. I still have the scar from my first soldering iron hehe.

Also keep in mind that back in the 80's, everything was set up by jumpers and dip switches....of course that first comp had no hard drive, modem, cd-rom and was running....what was it called? CP/M? The precursor to DOS...it's been so long I don't remember.

These days you have plug n play, jumperless motherboards.....seriously, today's computers are pathetically easy to set up. So much so that I often feel useless as a technician :(

As for the laptop issue, laptops would be nice, but like any computer, they break down often and the parts for them are ridiculously overpriced. Not to mention I'd be purchasing a computer that I could not work on, for fear of voiding my warranty. Imagine a computer technician having to call a poorly trained technical support kid from India that barely speaks English and arguing with him for 3 hours about the problem a machine is having? I have to do this all the time, but I'll never do it for my own machines :p

legacy-MajikMyst
01-12-2005, 02:50 AM
Simple words of wisdom on building your own computer.

First: If you can put a jigsaw puzzle together you can build a computer.

Every component in a computer will only fit in the place they are supposed to be. A stick of ram will not fit where the CPU goes. If it doesn't fit then it doesn't go there. Video cards for the most part are all AGP. There is only one AGP slot in a computer. Anyone guess what goes there? The Video card. DUH! :noob:

You all make it sound like it is rocket science to build a computer. It isn't that hard.

Someone mentioned that it takes a pro 1 hour to build a computer. Actually 1 hour is the time it would take a noob. A pro can build 40+ computers in an 8 hour period. That would be me. Given the space I could build more than that. Just stream line the process.

Mount all the mainboards in their cases. That would be about 45 minutes and the slowest part to accomplish. Install all the CPU's, that is about 5 minutes. Install the ram, another 5 minutes. Install all the video cards, another 5 minutes. Install all the soundcards, another 5 minutes. Mount all the drives in their cases. Basic config is one HDD and one CDROM. (Systems are starting to not come with floppy drives as CROMS are bootable now.) That also takes about 30 to 45 minutes. Spend about 5 minutes on each system plugging in all the cables and making sure everything is seated properly. Plug them in and turn them on. Set the bios and start installing windows. BAM! 40 computers in 8 hours. :o

You really can't screw up building a computer. Pay attention to what your doing and read the owners manual for the mainboard. That will tell you all you need to know about plugging everything in. If something doesn't quite fit then don't force it. It probably doesn't go there. :cool:

Folk
01-12-2005, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by undrtakr
Go HERE (http://www.alienware.com/system_pages/aurora_ddr.aspx) and click the How does this system perform? link.

EDIT: Make sure you do it against the "Area-51 Extreme" comp.
Here's how you get to it:
1st- open the 'Performance Comparison' window for the "aurora enthusiast"
2nd- click on "List All Systems" link to find the Area-51 Extreme(it'll be the one at the top;))
3rd- Click "Compare Individually"

I can't find any of those links?

Renegade
01-12-2005, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by Folk
I can't find any of those links?

Same

legacy-huh
01-12-2005, 01:35 PM
Probably because they don't exist.

Look at the date this thread was posted...

Folk
01-12-2005, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by huh
Probably because they don't exist.

Look at the date this thread was posted...

Damn, there's 30 minutes of my life wasted. :D