The greatest threat to quality MP games: parties

[Wardog313]

And Epic has already said specifically that they will never restrict people from being in Party Chat if they so wish to be.

Not going to happen.

you also forgot to mention that people will find other ways to talk to their friends, if party chat was disable whether it be skype or cell phones, so it wouldn't make a difference.

[upsmadman]

Quit blaming party chat and ghost cam. Put on ur backpack and do some work. In the end the better man will be standing irregardless of circumstances. Put up or shut up.

[upsmadman]

U didn't die because someone told me where u where. U died cause ur inferior. Lol. I roll solo a lot with mic off. Don't want to hear u guys complaining. I triumph over parties all day. 2.7 kd like a 7.0 w/l. At the end of the day only thing to blame is urself

[Gnashes]

U didn't die because someone told me where u where. U died cause ur inferior. Lol. I roll solo a lot with mic off. Don't want to hear u guys complaining. I triumph over parties all day. 2.7 kd like a 7.0 w/l. At the end of the day only thing to blame is urself

If you played my friends and I, and more than one of us were alive and you were solo, I promise you wouldn't win.

We don't go gung-ho and try for the 1v1, we wait and make sure there's nothing you can do to win. A good player doesn't stand a chance against good teamwork.

[III OXYGEN III]

party chat doesn't matter in gears, as you can talk to your dead teammates out of party anyway.

Ghost cam? Don't care about it. Cool feature. useful at times. Doesn't really matter one way or the other in the end.

then what do say about this I was in a clutch situation on trenches and had both ink and digger against a four man party and I went up high (above ink) and I was sure I could take them out (or at least tow of them) when ghost cam does it magic and all three of them rushed with their retros and downed me!!!! so ghost cam ruined my clutch for me. I'd say removing the ghost cam for parties would b great.

[III OXYGEN III]

If you played my friends and I, and more than one of us were alive and you were solo, I promise you wouldn't win.

We don't go gung-ho and try for the 1v1, we wait and make sure there's nothing you can do to win. A good player doesn't stand a chance against good teamwork.

well said!!!

[SgtReed24]

Honestly, I'd rather sit in a chat with friends rather than in game chat and hear all the trash people spew about each other .. whether it be the other team or teammates. Granted there are those who actually want to communicate to win but again .. I cannot deal with the idiocy and it outweighs the cooler people nine times outta 10. When it comes to Gears all I play is KOTH and sometimes Guardian so the ghost cam is not really an issue for me.

I remember the days in Gears 1 where I could join a lobby and almost everyone would have a mic. I could easily find 1 person in the lobby that communicated during the match and was pretty cool. We'd team up and head into another match where we could pick up a couple more lonewolves and end up making a team that ran together the rest of the night.

Now, with players having your mindset... you can't really form a team that way anymore. It's either stacked team in a party vs randoms... or randoms vs randoms with no one having a mic.

It sucks.

[SgtReed24]

If you played my friends and I, and more than one of us were alive and you were solo, I promise you wouldn't win.

We don't go gung-ho and try for the 1v1, we wait and make sure there's nothing you can do to win. A good player doesn't stand a chance against good teamwork.

If I could like posts... I'd like yours... SO HARD. lmao

[TH3 ZomBifiieD]

If you played my friends and I, and more than one of us were alive and you were solo, I promise you wouldn't win.

We don't go gung-ho and try for the 1v1, we wait and make sure there's nothing you can do to win. A good player doesn't stand a chance against good teamwork.

Yes indeed, cornering someone with rifles, so they have no chance to win is one of the many reason's this game is very little in the way of "skillbased"

Watching your matches you guys are mediocre just like everyone else. but Ah Ha! you can position yourselves over time to give yourselves a zero % chance of losing. Unless of course, against a more skilled group of "Stacked Tryhards" overall.

Me= "clapping for you"

Tis why in general (Stacked Tryhards) with no significant skill will always dominate a mixed set of individually skilled players. Aswell as a core reason why Ranked populations dwindle...

(wait a sec... did i just say skill in gears 3? that's almost an Oxy-Moron xD) It is aside from your induvidual Wallbouncing proficiency anyway.

NOT ME BTW, Im Still only an intermediate level bouncer. No real reason to master it in gears 3, Rifles are a waaay better choice by a mile, if you want to win consistently that is.

[SgtReed24]

Yes indeed, cornering someone with rifles, so they have no chance to win is one of the many reason's this game is very little in the way of "skillbased"

LOL.

That actually does take skill. If you don't want them to control a certain spot on the map... then you gotta stop them from doing so. Get out of your closed mind way of playing gears of war and attempt to use other strategies than...

"wallbouncing".

For example, last night I was playing with a group of people on clocktower (god, I love that map) and the opposing team has us spawn trapped with a boomshot and multiple rifles after the initial rush for the boom. We lost that round getting only one kill.

What did we do? We decided we weren't going to let that happen again and we took control of the boomshot and grenade spawns after the initial rush (which, btw, is when shotty's should take precedence) and they had to come to us. We did that two rounds straight and won the game.

We adapted, something MOST of you "wallbouncers" don't want to do.

[TH3 ZomBifiieD]

LOL.

That actually does take skill. If you don't want them to control a certain spot on the map... then you gotta stop them from doing so. Get out of your closed mind way of playing gears of war and attempt to use other strategies than...

(Proficiency with Tactics does not = an Induvidual's Skill, they are not even related IMO).

"wallbouncing".

For example, last night I was playing with a group of people on clocktower (god, I love that map) and the opposing team has us spawn trapped with a boomshot and multiple rifles after the initial rush for the boom. We lost that round getting only one kill.

What did we do? We decided we weren't going to let that happen again and we took control of the boomshot and grenade spawns after the initial rush (which, btw, is when shotty's should take precedence) and they had to come to us. We did that two rounds straight and won the game.

We adapted, something MOST of you "wallbouncers" don't want to do.

Who is a wallbouncer? anyone attempting to use that against rifles is an "Idiot" for lack of a better word. Rifles will dominate your feeble attempts at using such a useless tactic, Especially against a team.

Only viable option take a Nap as you kill everyone with a Retro Lancer "from any range", especially on Clocktower. I Love that map too btw!

[AndJusticeForMe]

It needs to stay. Sorry but the only reason I play video games is so I can play with my pals.

[REBORNvision316]

honestly, i'd rather sit in a chat with friends rather than in game chat and hear all the trash people spew about each other .. Whether it be the other team or teammates. Granted there are those who actually want to communicate to win but again .. I cannot deal with the idiocy and it outweighs the cooler people nine times outta 10. When it comes to gears all i play is koth and sometimes guardian so the ghost cam is not really an issue for me.

this, this, this.

[7V i c k]

go make some friends and stop trying to talk order about randoms like a military sergeant

[Tonyth]

I think most people dont understand what the OP is getting at. Ghost cam is great for like quick match and stuff but it shouldnt be there in RANKED.
The fact that a fallen teammate, can just scout round the map and find the last few guys is stupid and destroys any form of clutch factor.

In quick match who cares.
Also kinda agree with what your saying about party chat but thats not going anywhere so its not really worth discussing.

[Gnashes]

I think most people dont understand what the OP is getting at. Ghost cam is great for like quick match and stuff but it shouldnt be there in RANKED.
The fact that a fallen teammate, can just scout round the map and find the last few guys is stupid and destroys any form of clutch factor.

In quick match who cares.
Also kinda agree with what your saying about party chat but thats not going anywhere so its not really worth discussing.

I'm sorry, but Ghost Cam doesn't kill any kind of clutch factor in this game.

Rifles kill any form of clutch factor in this game.

[Eridanis Nadir]

I always play alone and I still get some clutches and able to clean a hill. It doesn't really matters.

[LadyNemesis21]

Honestly, I'd rather sit in a chat with friends rather than in game chat and hear all the trash people spew about each other .. whether it be the other team or teammates. Granted there are those who actually want to communicate to win but again .. I cannot deal with the idiocy and it outweighs the cooler people nine times outta 10.

This right here^ I completely agree. Either people don't put forth the effort to communicate or they trash talk way to much.

[SgtReed24]

It needs to stay. Sorry but the only reason I play video games is so I can play with my pals.

And you can't do that in... in-game chat? lol

[xTUFFxGONGx]

I couldn't agree any more when you face a party of 5 n its just you n randoms its so dumb

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[Killateral DMG]

I agree, no matter the games, (CoD, BF, Halo, Max Payne 3, any competitive team vs. team game) is almost impossible to lose while in a full party unless the skill level of the party is extremely low and they play someone good, or another party. I play every game by myself now (1-2 people max) because it is much more challenging.

[LordOfDeath]

The greatest threat?

Not by a long shot. It's far more concerning that all of the attention the casual market is getting, is what's killing good MP games. This franchise is practically dead now because of it. It's getting easier and easier in games to just pick up an overpowered weapon....or spawn with one, for the sake of "attracting new gamers", and dominate with them for a win. Multiplayer games are becoming a watered down experience. We've all heard that BS line companies tell people

"We think that this will attract some new gamers, while still maintaining that hardcore, and original aspect of the previous games" (or to some degree). Gears now spawns you with retro lancers and sawed offs, and at least 5 power weapons to blow people up with in 1 shot, on every single map. Gears 2 had the "feature" of smoke grenades knocking you to the ground for an undefined amount of time, as well as the 2 piece, and a plethora of other things to get new, temporary players to buy the game. COD has their noob cannon, "perks" and "killstreaks", don't even get me started on those. Street Fighter x Tekken has Gems that boost stats, and less strict timing. Marvel vs Capcom 3 is a joke for how easy the timing is, and how strong the top characters are.

It's such a shame that companies would rather make a game for complete noobs to make a quick buck, instead of making a solid all around and balanced game that people will play for years to come. MP games like Assassins Creed, Gotham City Imposters, or even Bionic Commando, is a welcome breath of fresh air.

Sadly,this is very true. In gears3 there is maybe 4-5maps that doesnt feature boomshot,but instead have still nades. Also,watering down MP is true. for excample comparing how different MP black ops and MW3 are. In black ops killstreaks didnt add more to killstreak,in MW3 they do,MW3 also has lot more "noob" friendly stuff than black ops ever had. Whole gaming has been watered down,almost every game has been changed either more action oriented(new Resident evil games) or easier(skyrim button mashing champions unite!) to attract more "casual" gamers. Dark Souls was breath of fresh air to me,no hand helding BS what every game nowdays has, Of course many gamers gave it 1/10 2/10 because it was unfairly hard.

For topic itself, party chat is pretty much only reason why i own xbox360 not ps3. So no, party chat isnt "greatest threat" of quality mp.

[Shmehh]

None of this would matter if the game had TRUE SKILL MATCHMAKING. It says it does, but it doesn't. Halo 2 and 3 had it, and COD Blops 2 is going to have it, hopefully Gears J gets it.