Time to RE-UP: all the colours of the rainbow

[Artiodactyl]

Well, not literally. But I've had several thoughts about re-upping and how it might be implemented in GoWJ.

First of all, I personally like the re-up system. I enjoy the fact that even if I reach 100 I can have a go at it again, so I would like to see re-ups make a come back in GoWJ.

Second of all, I know that some people have an issue with not being able to differentiate between lvl 100 bronze wings and lvl 400 gold. Please don't argue over whether this is actually the case or not for you, but either way many people don't enjoy reaching lvl 400 because it's not unique enough for them to stand out from the lvl 100 and so they'd rather stay at green or red wings. If the current re-up system is kept for GoWJ, I think a simple solution (if graphically possible for that game) would be to make lvl 100 silver wings instead of bronze, which also works with the fact that the first 99 levels are white. This would definitely make gold wings stand out, even if for example they couldn't be made blue wings for whatever reason.

Finally, the number of times you can re-up. Having reached lvl 400 you kind of just sit there watching your xp points accumulate, while I would rather the levels would keep going up and up. Granted, (I assume) not a great amount of people have reached lvl 400 and many might find this an insignificant and worthless point but it would be nice if they did one of two things. Either they add a few more rounds of re-upping (of course, if possible) which would make sense if GoWJ were the last in the series (now, I don't know if this is the case) because you'd probably be playing that as a source of Gears for a long time if they don't come out with anything else. Alternatively, they might implement a looping system, so when you reach lvl 400 you can re-up to white level 1 again. That way you get the achievement but you can stick with the colour of wings you want to display as the next time you're re-upping you could stop at those. Or go in infinite loops your choice.

If they do add more lvls it wouldn't necessarily mean they'd have to add achievements and skins to unlock with each, though I understand some people might find it pointless to re-up otherwise. On the other hand, if you're just playing for achievements wouldn't you be happy getting your last achievement based on levels the same place as you do now and then not having to worry about leveling up?

Which re-up system would you prefer if any? If you'd add more re-up colours, how many more? Just wanted to see people's opinion on this.

Sorry, kind of turned out a bit long.



A suggestion by BlueDodger which I support:

I would like 4 prestiges (max rank level 500)

1-99
Bronze wings
101-199
Blue wings with silver trim
201-299
Red wings with gold trim
301-399
Onyx wings with gold trim




Then when you re-up to level 401, you would get this:






The number would increase until 499, the when you hit 500, it would be a star in the middle:




edit:

Also with every re-up, there should be an increase of experience needed to reach the next level. (lets say around 15%)

So lets say it takes 4 million exp to reach lvl 100

1-100 = 4,000,000

101-200 = 4,600,000

201-300 = 5,290,000

301-400 = 6,083,500

401-500 = 6,996,025

[ViiRuZ]

I personally like the re-up system as well but how the colors were for each re-up they were kinda random. For GOW J I believe the colors for each re-up would silver, gold, and onyx like the medal system.

[LoD FENIX]

Make level 100 take a little longer to achieve and add like 2 more Re Ups.

That would be good for me.

[TG47]

You're probably aware but I think the Re-Up system was added through a downloadable Title Update and the colors were limited to ones available in the Gears 3 menus. (Or something like that.) I'm sure a Re-Up system will be built into Judgment on the disc, and it will have a wider variety of color and emblems. I hope so! The artwork for Gears 3 achievements and ribbons is terrific and maybe there will be similar Re-Up emblems.

[Artiodactyl]

You're probably aware but I think the Re-Up system was added through a downloadable Title Update and the colors were limited to ones available in the Gears 3 menus. (Or something like that.) I'm sure a Re-Up system will be built into Judgment on the disc, and it will have a wider variety of color and emblems. I hope so! The artwork for Gears 3 achievements and ribbons is terrific and maybe there will be similar Re-Up emblems.

Oh, well that's good to know, thanks. Wasn't really sure why and how the colours were chosen. I was just trying to preempt people telling me a certain colour can't be done.

But even if they have a wider range, the question still remains how they'll set up the system. More re-up levels or slower xp gain as LoD Fenix mentioned.

Unique re-up medals would be interesting. They certainly did put a lot of effort into ribbons and medal and they do look nice.

[I Dark Knight I]

They grow up so fast. First thread FTW.

I support.

[II TH4 K1NG II]

Yea instead of making re ups make it to where getting to 100 is 4x as much xp so wings actually mean something like in gears 2

[Evol7n]

I just hope it doesn't make it happen none of this Re-Up ranked shenanigans its awful and annoying. How about a system 1-100 similar to Gears 2 and not 3 where it was super easy to achieve.

[xTZAx]

They will probably go with the bronze, silver, etc. scheme and it will be awesome. I'm sure they've already got this sorted out.

[xTZAx]

Yea instead of making re ups make it to where getting to 100 is 4x as much xp so wings actually mean something like in gears 2

The aim of this type of system is to get people to play the game more. This is why COD has ten million prestiges, because it gives the player a constant sense of achievement and validation.

The Gears 2 system was fine for Gears 2 but the landscape of gaming has changed a lot since then so it doesn't make sense to stick with that anymore.

[Yamato Kakashi]

It was hard enough for me to get to rank 134.....

[BlueDodger]

I would like 4 prestiges (max rank level 500)

1-99
Bronze wings
101-199
Blue wings with silver trim
201-299
Red wings with gold trim
301-399
Onyx wings with gold trim




Then when you re-up to level 401, you would get this:






The number would increase until 499, the when you hit 500, it would be a star in the middle:




edit:

Also with every re-up, there should be an increase of experience needed to reach the next level. (lets say around 15%)

So lets say it takes 4 million exp to reach lvl 100

1-100 = 4,000,000

101-200 = 4,600,000

201-300 = 5,290,000

301-400 = 6,083,500

401-500 = 6,996,025

[II TH4 K1NG II]

The aim of this type of system is to get people to play the game more. This is why COD has ten million prestiges, because it gives the player a constant sense of achievement and validation.

The Gears 2 system was fine for Gears 2 but the landscape of gaming has changed a lot since then so it doesn't make sense to stick with that anymore.

I see... So thats why I felt good about myslef when I reduped for the first time.

[Artiodactyl]

They will probably go with the bronze, silver, etc. scheme and it will be awesome. I'm sure they've already got this sorted out.

They might have sorted it out, but as not much has yet been revealed we don't know. But it never hurts to see what people think.

Some would obviously prefer a slow rank up like GoW2, some would go with a GoW3 style fast re-up. Personally, I like the second one better because as you said it gives a sense of achievement watching that bar go up quicker.

I would like 4 prestiges (max rank level 500)

You've obviously thought a lot about this Blue. I personally like it. Also the accumulation of xp needed is a good idea. Even the first 100 level requires more xp than the current amount to reach lvl 100.

@Dark Yes, it's my first thread. ^^

[BlueDodger]

You've obviously thought a lot about this Blue. I personally like it. Also the accumulation of xp needed is a good idea. Even the first 100 level requires more xp than the current amount to reach lvl 100.

It was just an estimation to show how each re-up level would be "harder" to level up

and i love how you shortened my quote to 9 words then say "You've obviously thought a lot about this..."

If I was a random person who didn't see the other post I would think you were being a mean person

[I Dark Knight I]

I would think you were being a mean person

I shortened even more lol

@Arti Keep threads coming.

[BattleSlushie]

Yeah I like it too, but what I'd really like to see is when you reach level 400 the wings you get are onyx that would be sick!

[Artiodactyl]

It was just an estimation to show how each re-up level would be "harder" to level up

and i love how you shortened my quote to 9 words then say "You've obviously thought a lot about this..."

If I was a random person who didn't see the other post I would think you were being a mean person

Errr, well. It's really close above it so I thought the pretty pictures would catch the eye as obviously people would scroll through it and didn't want to requote the whole thing. ^^; Not trying to be mean.

Well, for me, who plays quite a bit the longer it takes for me to reach the very final level the better. Of course this is my opinion but that's why I like the idea.

In fact, if you don't mind I'd add it to the OP.

Yeah I like it too, but what I'd really like to see is when you reach level 400 the wings you get are onyx that would be sick!

If you read Bluedodger's post he included the last wings to be onyx with gold trim.

[BlueDodger]

In fact, if you don't mind I'd add it to the OP.

I wouldn't mind at all

[RoboSeal1]

How about no REUP? Rank 100 was fine in gears 2, no colors needed.

Why epic decided to make ranking up so easy i have no idea, gears 2 only ranked up public multiplayer and later on horde
Gears 3 ranks u up campaign/arcade, beast, horde, mp private or not, wings should have just been harder :/

[Artiodactyl]

How about no REUP? Rank 100 was fine in gears 2, no colors needed.

Why epic decided to make ranking up so easy i have no idea, gears 2 only ranked up public multiplayer and later on horde
Gears 3 ranks u up campaign/arcade, beast, horde, mp private or not, wings should have just been harder :/

I really should've made a poll to see what people really prefer.

Well, I play multiplayer 90% of the time so the bulk of my xp comes from there, and I still found leveling up easy. Granted I probably play more than the average gears player. However, some people might prefer to play horde or beast over multiplayer so that's probably why they get xp too, why should they get no reward at all for playing something other than multiplayer. If you want to get all the medals, you are still forced to play multiplayer in the sense that weapon kills only count for that and not horde or campaign.

I'm sure you'll be able to get xp for the new overrun gametype too.

But you can also look at re-up as bench marks along the way to the final medal. Whether slow re-up to 100 or faster re-up to 400, the time period should technically be the same (however I didn't play much MP in GoW2 so I don't know the actual time frame I would've needed to reach lvl 100 but I know leveling up with horde was really slow unless there was an event). I know your concern was towards things other than multiplayer (and perhaps horde) getting xp, but they probably will all receive xp. However, how much is up to the game developers to balance.

[BlueDodger]

I really should've made a poll to see what people really prefer.

You can make a poll, click "Thread tools" at the top right of your OP

[Artiodactyl]

You can make a poll, click "Thread tools" at the top right of your OP

Why, thank you. This is my first thread, so I'm learning here.

[BlueDodger]

Why, thank you. This is my first thread, so I'm learning here.

*tips hat*

no problem.


First vote!

[DaRkNeSs]

I like Blue Dodger's idea, that sounds good

[123MAN]

I actually like this idea. In the beginning I was against Re-up and in favour of a level 100 that was harder to reach, but now I have grown fond of levelling up and after months of being level 400, I have got bored. I am in favour of the system you proposed, it sounds interesting.

[Rainbow Dash]

I would like Rainbow Wings who cares about onyx when I could have Rainbows

[DenyThisFlesh]

I would like Rainbow Wings who cares about onyx when I could have Rainbows

If you're going that route it should be a unicorn instead of wings. Lol

[GoW 3 Killa]

I would like it to be just like in Gears 3 but I would like different colours but to add the 4th re-up ...(RE-UP 1 BRONZE RE-UP 2 SILVER RE-UP 3 GOLD RE-UP 4 ONYX)

[Artiodactyl]

I actually like this idea. In the beginning I was against Re-up and in favour of a level 100 that was harder to reach, but now I have grown fond of levelling up and after months of being level 400, I have got bored. I am in favour of the system you proposed, it sounds interesting.

Agreed, it gets boring sitting on your xp after level 400.

@Dash I knew the thread title would eventually draw you. Rainbow wings, haha, like a rainbow pegasus. Not sure many would support that though, maybe they could make you a special one.

[123MAN]

Agreed, it gets boring sitting on your xp after level 400.

@Dash I knew the thread title would eventually draw you. Rainbow wings, haha, like a rainbow pegasus. Not sure many would support that though, maybe they could make you a special one.

Maybe a Rainbow Unicorn skin?

[Rattlecat23]

Couldn't give a monkeys if they have XP and levelling up tbh. Doesn't mean anything. Just gives people who can't play games simply because they are fun a reason to play.

[Matt S]

I dig the re-up system if it keeps people playing. I am a green 73 now, and personally, don't mean jack squat to me. I voted keep re-up but with different color options

[Artiodactyl]

Couldn't give a monkeys if they have XP and levelling up tbh. Doesn't mean anything. Just gives people who can't play games simply because they are fun a reason to play.

I would have to disagree. I very much enjoy the game but I find it fun to level up too. Even after I was reset from blue 43, I continued playing till white 63, then I found a backup to red 84. Either way, even if it wasn't there I'd still play. Though I would have to agree that some people might not do it with 'oh, this is fun' in mind. However, I never purposefully ranked up, it just happened as I played but I don't know what it is but I liked the gauge bar going up personally. However, you're entitled to your opinion.

@123man Well, I hope to at least see some of NP473L's skins make it in, like quartz.

[Anthony*Carmine]

do no re-ups and make it harder to level up

[Rattlecat23]

I would have to disagree. I very much enjoy the game but I find it fun to level up too.

Yeah man, i appreciate that XP and levelling up has to be present in every game under the sun nowadays. Otherwise the game would have a lifespan of 2 months tops for most people. It's fake longevity. Games used to be rated on their longevity which came from the quality of the gameplay, not the amount of monotonous things you have to do to get 100% done. I just think it's a shame that the punters have become that fickle. It also means developers are getting less and less original with each release. Weapons skins, xp, levelling up, medals, ribbons. I would trade the lot for solid dependable and consistant gameplay.

[I Dark Knight I]

Voted.

[BFW Wolf]

Id like to see bronze, green, silver, red, gold, blue then onyx. with the current wings youve earnt showing with your number on top of it

[Jim Tuna]

I don't really care too much. Rank doesn't indicate skill.

[YiffYiff Hooray]

I actually was talking about this with some friends the other day, they should have 1000 ranks white-red-orange-yellow-green-blue-violet-silver-gold-onyx

I left out indigo mainly because it would look too much like violet, I mainly like this idea so I can have any color star I want lol