I have been getting so annoyed with the Gnasher...

[He Bridish]

It seems like no-one wants to engage in a shotgun battle anymore. The amount of times I have been hard aimed from almost medium range and being forced to take cover due to the range an active has is beyond stupid for a close range weapon. You can't even run from someone using a Gnasher if they are closing in on you. You end up getting downed in 2 or 3 shots.

Look at 7:45 in this video. This is pretty much my opinion on the Gnasher.

People have actually got the first hit with a hard-aimed, active Gnasher from medium range and decided to close in because they knew it took like 1/4 of my health. I hope none of you guys have felt like this.

[theassman007]

That's why I play old school.

But anyways, I'd rather get full red than play against a team of all-out relentless rifles. Especially retros. At least with the gnasher, there is a chance for a comeback if you make the guy miss his next shot or 2.

Play old school. It's amazing.

[He Bridish]

That's why I play old school.

But anyways, I'd rather get full red than play against a team of all-out relentless rifles. Especially retros. At least with the gnasher, there is a chance for a comeback if you make the guy miss his next shot or 2.

Play old school. It's amazing.

What is old school again?

[Doctor Ico]

What is old school again?

A lancer fest.

[Gnashty NaS]

A lancer fest.

Hahaha, this sometimes but usually it's good.

[MasterShake]

That's why I play old school.

But anyways, I'd rather get full red than play against a team of all-out relentless rifles. Especially retros. At least with the gnasher, there is a chance for a comeback if you make the guy miss his next shot or 2.

Play old school. It's amazing.

Old school is good however I find that to be BS. Face anyone with a 1.3 k/d+ and chances r they will rarely miss that second shot. It's situations like this that make it almost impossible to rush on the left side of a wall.

[gold charro]

It seems like no-one wants to engage in a shotgun battle anymore. The amount of times I have been hard aimed from almost medium range and being forced to take cover due to the range an active has is beyond stupid for a close range weapon. You can't even run from someone using a Gnasher if they are closing in on you. You end up getting downed in 2 or 3 shots.

Look at 7:45 in this video. This is pretty much my opinion on the Gnasher.

People have actually got the first hit with a hard-aimed, active Gnasher from medium range and decided to close in because they knew it took like 1/4 of my health. I hope none of you guys have felt like this.

yes this game in general its super mega OP all weapons are ,including my loved gnasher and with actives its just sad. But remember EPIC whanted a more casual game so more people come, play and stay its realy a shame how this turn on for GOW i havent play a serius competitive game in months its starting to feel like GTA hahahah i just walk around in maps chating with my friends not even putting attention to the game because the moment you get into it some random new player comes with the super ARS and destroy you in less than a sec ,ending in me raging like a mad man .that allmoust never hapend in GOW 2 a gud players will 95 out of 100 times win now i think its more like 70 out of 100 i hate that.
GOW have sell their soul
Plz excusse my super poor english

[He Bridish]

yes this game in general its super mega OP all weapons are ,including my loved gnasher and with actives its just sad. But remember EPIC whanted a more casual game so more people come, play and stay its realy a shame how this turn on for GOW i havent play a serius competitive game in months its starting to feel like GTA hahahah i just walk around in maps chating with my friends not even putting attention to the game because the moment you get into it some random new player comes with the super ARS and destroy you in less than a sec ,ending in me raging like a mad man .that allmoust never hapend in GOW 2 a gud players will 95 out of 100 times win now i think its more like 70 out of 100 i hate that.
GOW have sell their soul
Plz excusse my super poor english

It does seem like the gnasher is much easier to use. In Gears 1 you couldn't hard aim from so far.

[gold charro]

It does seem like the gnasher is much easier to use. In Gears 1 you couldn't hard aim from so far.

i dont think that its easier to use,the problem is the high power all weapons have in compare to the HP your caracter have.
In my opinion the game will be expectacular giving more HP to players then you wont see so many luky kills from casuals but that again its not what EPIC whants

[Doctor Ico]

Hahaha, this sometimes but usually it's good.

I guess I just have bad luck.

[He Bridish]

i dont think that its easier to use,the problem is the high power all weapons have in compare to the HP your caracter have.
In my opinion the game will be expectacular giving more HP to players then you wont see so many luky kills from casuals but that again its not what EPIC whants

I do, considering the power of an active hardaimed gnasher, which a noob will probably start off doing anyway.

[gold charro]

I do, considering the power of an active hardaimed gnasher, which a noob will probably start off doing anyway.

exactly but the gnasher is the same the problem is the power it has

[theassman007]

Yeah, ranked old school is a lancer fest, I admit. I don't get how a rate of fire increase is a nerf exactly. It's a shame they didn't actually make it a proper old school playlist. At first, I loved it. But I guess people figured out how powerful the lancer was after a few days and started abusing it. Quick match is a lot more fun than ranked I find.

[G3T GNASHTY]

Many people turn down Gnasher battles now because many people will whip out a Retro Lancer. I fell for that once and another instance were someone was meleeing for a Gnasher battle, I took the offer, and sure enough, behind a pillar was a guy with a Boomshot. So people also will use it to trick players and trap them.

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[xIIchrisyboyIIx]

Theres nothing wrong with the gnashers range and most of the gun balencing bar a few things like active boltok scorcher and retro. The gnashers strength and range force players to use the cover system as it was meant instead of running directly into someone and either 1 Bombing them or forcing them into what you call a "gnasher battle" which forces these two players to do stupid wallbouncing which is poorly placed because your so close to each other and rely on luck for the kill. The gnasher battles that truly skilled players get into are more about manouvering the conver and utilizing both strafing and good wallbouncing rather than just retarded button mashing

[He Bridish]

Theres nothing wrong with the gnashers range and most of the gun balencing bar a few things like active boltok scorcher and retro. The gnashers strength and range force players to use the cover system as it was meant instead of running directly into someone and either 1 Bombing them or forcing them into what you call a "gnasher battle" which forces these two players to do stupid wallbouncing which is poorly placed because your so close to each other and rely on luck for the kill. The gnasher battles that truly skilled players get into are more about manouvering the conver and utilizing both strafing and good wallbouncing rather than just retarded button mashing

I'm not sure if the Gnasher was meant to keep people in cover. I'd much prefer an intense gnasher battle instead of hard aiming players behind a wall from 30 metres away.

[YiffYiff Hooray]

Many newer players (And probably some vets too) just abuse the honor system for the gnasher battles that is needed, and either ambush or swap weapons as soon as you start coming for them. I never do gnasher battles with people any more, and there is no way to tell anyone that other than attacking them lol

[joal0503]

i dont see it. seems like gnasher battles are CLEARLY more prevalent than rifle fests.

[Doctor Pie 7056]

The Gnasher needs a range nerf and no active damage

[angryguy77]

Many people turn down Gnasher battles now because many people will whip out a Retro Lancer. I fell for that once and another instance were someone was meleeing for a Gnasher battle, I took the offer, and sure enough, behind a pillar was a guy with a Boomshot. So people also will use it to trick players and trap them.

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haha, it was probably me. I try to do that all the time to people. I hate, and I mean hate when I see people do this stuff. Just get the match over with and try to put yourself in the best position to win. Keep your honor, I'll take the win.

[II TH4 K1NG II]

Many people turn down Gnasher battles now because many people will whip out a Retro Lancer. I fell for that once and another instance were someone was meleeing for a Gnasher battle, I took the offer, and sure enough, behind a pillar was a guy with a Boomshot. So people also will use it to trick players and trap them.

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Lol im trying to imagine that

[DaRkNeSs]

This is because GoW3 appeals to a more casual audience and that the Gnasher is unreliable in CQC shotty battles. Sad, but true. You get a good few shotty battles on Old School KOTH though, good fun. Hopefully, with stopping power removed from Judgment, there will be more shotty battles

[Yamato Kakashi]

When I try to get into gnasher battles usually someone else comes out and steals my kill or I get killed by the enemies teammate. Ugh. That's why I pick up sawed offs when I see them.

[YiffYiff Hooray]

haha, it was probably me. I try to do that all the time to people. I hate, and I mean hate when I see people do this stuff. Just get the match over with and try to put yourself in the best position to win. Keep your honor, I'll take the win.

I can get both, so it don't bother me lol

[The RZK]

Learn how to evade shots?

[HippoKillin]

Don't run straight at people. Use cover to advance.

[MoDDeDtriGGer]

Gnasher battles are pointless. They are for a bad players. People wall bouncing everyone hitting air....are...just bad players. If I don't get one shot gib, then I'm running away. I can usually tell if I get off a good clean shot then I'll go for the nice second pop-shot down but I'm not getting in dumb gnasher battles with all the OP weapons in this game.

[Theronmaster]

just shoot them and be done with it lol.

[Matt S]

I do feel the Gnasher has to much range to it - I often gotten mowed down trying to escape.....I'd imagine that Epic is heavily working on Judgment, and wouldn't expect too many changes at this point

[geargeargear]

i just adjust myself, that its going to be at-least 5 solid shots for a down or gib

[slurmsmkenzie1]

Learn how to evade shots?

Don't use evade.

[TheNoHeartedBeing]

It seems like no-one wants to engage in a shotgun battle anymore. The amount of times I have been hard aimed from almost medium range and being forced to take cover due to the range an active has is beyond stupid for a close range weapon. You can't even run from someone using a Gnasher if they are closing in on you. You end up getting downed in 2 or 3 shots.

Look at 7:45 in this video. This is pretty much my opinion on the Gnasher.

People have actually got the first hit with a hard-aimed, active Gnasher from medium range and decided to close in because they knew it took like 1/4 of my health. I hope none of you guys have felt like this.

I feel your pain man. I get so frustrated . I come up on someone and they start running. Like im the Messiah or something. I be like "get the **** over here!!!" lol like i get so mad when the run. God i just wanna fight. Thats why i play the game.

[Da-bomber]

I still have some great strafe battles and they appear more often than hard aiming one on ones.

[Trigger phinger]

To engage in a Gnasher battle and come out the Victor you have to be seasoned with Wallboucing, Strafing and of course the Gnasher, knowing when to do what is essential as situational events arise. Otherwise it will leave you looking like an amateur disregard how many years of experience you have.
What does this have to do with med distance hard aimers?
Slick maneuvers + Angles = Death to All
If you know the dimensions and geometry of barricades, walls ect. Then you can terminate hard aimers with swift accurate maneuvers and shooting with precision.

[D4u2s0t]

I just try to think about why I died, and adapt to the game at that moment, to an extent. Even the best players will come across people who will beat them, and I have no problem losing to a better player. I just try to think about what I could have done differently, and then try to apply it. If people are camping rifles and crossing, then it's probably not a good idea to run out in the open. A lot of deaths could be avoided by common sense, looking back afterwards, if you actually think about why you died. Sometimes, there's nothing you can do, and will die anyways. Yesterday, koth, rustling, time was running out, had to make a mad dash for the circle, was 4 of them right there... I got a triple, last one shot me in the back for the easy gib. Sometimes you get in those situations where no matter what you do, at some point you are going to die, and that has to be accepted. The choice was sit back, and let them win, or rush in, where I'm extremely likely to die, but at least I have a chance for comeback. Now, if this was the first circle, or not a game changing move, that would have been an absolutely absurd thing to do, try to run in solo with 4 enemies. In most situations this would be a huge mistake. Situational awareness is key, and getting those quick decisions where you don't have time to plan and think, that's what's going to make the difference, and make you a better player in different situations. A different game last night, on jacinto, koth, very end of the game, last circle was on the torque platform. Enemies had the circle, and was staying in it, they had about 140 points at that time. A dead teammate watching in ghost cam was yelling at me for not rushing the circle, asking what I was doing, how come I'm not going in, typical kinda of stuff... Well, I had clear shots at the enemy, nobody else was around, I was well protected in cover, so I lancered him down and ran in for the simple break/cap. Had I rushed, I had a much higher chance of dying... If there was someone behind me, I would have been forced to rush in that situation, but there wasn't, so I took advantage, and it paid off. The guy got real quite real quick after that.

I'm not the best by any means with a gnasher. I can hold my own, no doubt, but people are not filling up my inbox asking me how I did that or anything. But, I feel like many of my kills are not necessarily coming from being a skilled gnasher user, I think they come from having a solid strategy, knowing the maps, knowing the enemy, things like that. Being well rounded with different weapons is important, and knowing when and where to use them. This is something that will help overcome any weapon imbalances, and help overcome losing to different play styles.

[Trigger phinger]

I just try to think about why I died, and adapt to the game at that moment, to an extent. Even the best players will come across people who will beat them, and I have no problem losing to a better player. I just try to think about what I could have done differently, and then try to apply it. If people are camping rifles and crossing, then it's probably not a good idea to run out in the open. A lot of deaths could be avoided by common sense, looking back afterwards, if you actually think about why you died. Sometimes, there's nothing you can do, and will die anyways. Yesterday, koth, rustling, time was running out, had to make a mad dash for the circle, was 4 of them right there... I got a triple, last one shot me in the back for the easy gib. Sometimes you get in those situations where no matter what you do, at some point you are going to die, and that has to be accepted. The choice was sit back, and let them win, or rush in, where I'm extremely likely to die, but at least I have a chance for comeback. Now, if this was the first circle, or not a game changing move, that would have been an absolutely absurd thing to do, try to run in solo with 4 enemies. In most situations this would be a huge mistake. Situational awareness is key, and getting those quick decisions where you don't have time to plan and think, that's what's going to make the difference, and make you a better player in different situations. A different game last night, on jacinto, koth, very end of the game, last circle was on the torque platform. Enemies had the circle, and was staying in it, they had about 140 points at that time. A dead teammate watching in ghost cam was yelling at me for not rushing the circle, asking what I was doing, how come I'm not going in, typical kinda of stuff... Well, I had clear shots at the enemy, nobody else was around, I was well protected in cover, so I lancered him down and ran in for the simple break/cap. Had I rushed, I had a much higher chance of dying... If there was someone behind me, I would have been forced to rush in that situation, but there wasn't, so I took advantage, and it paid off. The guy got real quite real quick after that.

I'm not the best by any means with a gnasher. I can hold my own, no doubt, but people are not filling up my inbox asking me how I did that or anything. But, I feel like many of my kills are not necessarily coming from being a skilled gnasher user, I think they come from having a solid strategy, knowing the maps, knowing the enemy, things like that. Being well rounded with different weapons is important, and knowing when and where to use them. This is something that will help overcome any weapon imbalances, and help overcome losing to different play styles.

I look at GoW this way, majority of any game is positioning, how you position yourself is crucial. Having angel of advantage is something you should stride for to obtain an upperhand then being well seasoned with the weapon your zoning with. Being good with the gnasher entirely concludes sweeping corners, hip firing and popping shots when needed. Knowing when to do these 3 is absolutely essential, but yes sometimes you will be forced into clutch situations where you may die, but if that means doing it for the greater good then by all means do so. Taking out a guy that's parading with a power weapon that could potentially slay three or more of your teammates should be highly prioritized along with a callout before and after the encounter, communication is key, along with breaking the KOTH ring because every second counts. I could go on and on about simple human error I witness from random players on gears, but it all comes to situational planning and choices that are or should be put into action.

[He Bridish]

I really don't need to be told how to play the game, I'm just mad at the range of the Gnasher. Shooting people from about triple of the gnasher's gib range shouldn't do so much damage, especially with actives.

[DaZ3dNc0nFuZ3D]

I really don't need to be told how to play the game, I'm just mad at the range of the Gnasher. Shooting people from about triple of the gnasher's gib range shouldn't do so much damage, especially with actives.

So true. An active hard aim can full red u from what seems like at least 15 - 20 foot away. It's not so much of a CQC weapon now, it's branched out to mid range, and with an active is extremely effective.

[mr black32]

Please stop complaining .. if they removed the rang of the gnasher it eould mean thqt the retro would be alot more powerfull the range is to far with active but if they changed it without changing retro it would have been even worse

[II TH4 K1NG II]

the gnasher should have bit less range like 1.5 feet and no active damage but thats pretty much the gowj gnasher so thats fine.