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    Quote Originally Posted by injuwarrior View Post
    Same here but I really want this now. Will wait a bit and see of some other people find some quicker ways to build up attack 400 gems.
    Kind of. I forged a 89 fire gem or so with two weaker gems and I got a 160+ fire gem.
    Fortunately I also have a 376 ice attack gem
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    Wrath has a built in fire element and a slot for a square gem.

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    I wonder why there is a dark and light spektrum gems. Is it not enough with one spektrum gem? Like one rainbow defense gem.
    If there are several colored spektrum, then maybe there has to be a way to forge THE one rainbow attack gem?

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    so has anyone tried this with non-rare gems? I'm curious if the same formula can be used with the same element gems but at lower damage values

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    Impressive find!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mammoth View Post
    Here is what I did: restart rebirth 1; purposefully lose to raidriar every time to restart a rebirth. That is the fastest way to refresh your store. Even at such rate it took me at least 100 rebirths to collect 8 rare elemental attack gems. (And I already had one collection of +400 attack before that)
    Wait what do you mean lose to raidriar? You don't fight him at the beginning. Do you mean the Shade? I figure I may give this a shot on my OG only character since I don't lose anything by starting back at 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Noodle Boy View Post
    Wait what do you mean lose to raidriar? You don't fight him at the beginning. Do you mean the Shade? I figure I may give this a shot on my OG only character since I don't lose anything by starting back at 1.
    he means get to Raidriar at the end of the game, but lose to him after beating his 3 Seringal. This counts as a new 6 month rebirth I believe, even though I don't think it will reflect it after Siris says "Worker, I will free you"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElPared View Post
    he means get to Raidriar at the end of the game, but lose to him after beating his 3 Seringal. This counts as a new 6 month rebirth I believe, even though I don't think it will reflect it after Siris says "Worker, I will free you"
    Oooooh. Not bad. I may need to work on building yo some money before I jump in to do that. This is going to take A LOT of gems and A LOT of money. Holy crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElPared View Post
    he means get to Raidriar at the end of the game, but lose to him after beating his 3 Seringal. This counts as a new 6 month rebirth I believe, even though I don't think it will reflect it after Siris says "Worker, I will free you"
    But then you could just lose to Thane as well right? I don't think he meant Radriar. Unless I am missing something. As for spectrum damage, I thought it was kind of like holy, a separate entity. So it will attack any element as long as the titan/boss has one undefended, but it will not attack with two (or more) elements if there are two (or more) open. So 500 damage regardless as long as one or more is undefended. Still, this combined with holy would make you a god in OG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderblow View Post
    I wonder why there is a dark and light spektrum gems. Is it not enough with one spektrum gem? Like one rainbow defense gem.
    If there are several colored spektrum, then maybe there has to be a way to forge THE one rainbow attack gem?
    It makes some sense. But, would it be a rainbow gem? I don't think so...

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Noodle Boy View Post
    Oooooh. Not bad. I may need to work on building yo some money before I jump in to do that. This is going to take A LOT of gems and A LOT of money. Holy crap.
    I'm giving my own opinion, so no wowzers, but I think it's pretty useless to do it in NG. I mean, you have so many attack in NG that Solar Blades can help and make your attack even more devastating, but it's as far as it goes. It doesn't change things a lot. From my point of view it's a lot better to do it in OG; it's a lot more useful and you won't lose the gems when defeating Raidriar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PedroCst View Post
    it's pretty useless to do it in NG. I mean, you have so many attack in NG that Solar Blades can help and make your attack even more devastating, but it's as far as it goes. It doesn't change things a lot. From my point of view it's a lot better to do it in OG; it's a lot more useful and you won't lose the gems when defeating Raidriar.
    Agreed. I've enjoyed leveling my solar weapons in NG but when I got them all up to 34 mastery (my current NG) and went back to regular weapons I was killing pretty much just as easy hehe, 8000 attack atm

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    Yeah I'm planning on working on these gems on my OG save.

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    Quote Originally Posted by injuwarrior View Post
    But then you could just lose to Thane as well right? I don't think he meant Radriar. Unless I am missing something. As for spectrum damage, I thought it was kind of like holy, a separate entity. So it will attack any element as long as the titan/boss has one undefended, but it will not attack with two (or more) elements if there are two (or more) open. So 500 damage regardless as long as one or more is undefended. Still, this combined with holy would make you a god in OG.
    no, if you lose to Thane you go back to the beginning of the VoT and have to work your way back to him. If you lose to Raidriar at Saydhi's estate, you only have to fight 3 titans to get back to him. Much faster

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    I have a theory:
    Maybe there are 2 rainbow gems because they correspond to a titan's weaknesses. For example, if a Titan was vulnerable to, say, Ice, it would be vulnerable to the Rare Spectrum gem, but it would get normal damage from the Darkfire gem.
    Mammoth, can you test this? I was wondering if I should get only 1 and get another arsenal of +500s for vulnerable titans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElPared View Post
    no, if you lose to Thane you go back to the beginning of the VoT and have to work your way back to him. If you lose to Raidriar at Saydhi's estate, you only have to fight 3 titans to get back to him. Much faster
    Okay so you are saying go back to Rebirth 1, beat Thane and blood sentinals, then when back to the estate, you lose to the god king. This will send you just back to the beginning of the estate? Ive always beaten the god king after beating Thane 2, so if this is true than this is definitely the fastest way. If someone confirms this I am going after it then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElPared View Post
    no, if you lose to Thane you go back to the beginning of the VoT and have to work your way back to him. If you lose to Raidriar at Saydhi's estate, you only have to fight 3 titans to get back to him. Much faster
    Okay so you are saying go back to Rebirth 1, beat Thane and blood sentinals, then when back to the estate, you lose to the god king. This will send you just back to the beginning of the estate? Ive always beaten the god king after beating Thane 2, so if this is true than this is definitely the fastest way. If someone confirms this I am going after it then. Whoops sorry for double post. Not sure how that happened.
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    Awesome mammoth! congrats! ^_^
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    Quote Originally Posted by asianlitarian View Post
    I have a theory:
    Maybe there are 2 rainbow gems because they correspond to a titan's weaknesses. For example, if a Titan was vulnerable to, say, Ice, it would be vulnerable to the Rare Spectrum gem, but it would get normal damage from the Darkfire gem.
    Mammoth, can you test this? I was wondering if I should get only 1 and get another arsenal of +500s for vulnerable titans.
    No.. Based on my limited testing, no titans are vulnerable to either of the two gems. The two rainbow gems deal the same damage of 500 no matter what the opponent's magic attributes are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by injuwarrior View Post
    Okay so you are saying go back to Rebirth 1, beat Thane and blood sentinals, then when back to the estate, you lose to the god king. This will send you just back to the beginning of the estate? Ive always beaten the god king after beating Thane 2, so if this is true than this is definitely the fastest way. If someone confirms this I am going after it then. Whoops sorry for double post. Not sure how that happened.
    I play OG, so maybe if you're playing NG it's different. I jsut play through, beat all the sentinels and Thane, then at Saydhi's estate I beat the 3 Seringal and lose to Raidriar on purpose. Rinse and repeat until I get sick of it, then beat Raidriar and start it again next RB (since OG doesn't start over ar RB1 when you beat Raidriar)

    Mammoth, have you tested a version with Light/Dark gems? I'm really curious about those. They're the only other elements not included in the Spectrum/Darkfire gems, and it seems unlikely they simply went overlooked
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElPared View Post
    I play OG, so maybe if you're playing NG it's different. I jsut play through, beat all the sentinels and Thane, then at Saydhi's estate I beat the 3 Seringal and lose to Raidriar on purpose. Rinse and repeat until I get sick of it, then beat Raidriar and start it again next RB (since OG doesn't start over ar RB1 when you beat Raidriar)

    Mammoth, have you tested a version with Light/Dark gems? I'm really curious about those. They're the only other elements not included in the Spectrum/Darkfire gems, and it seems unlikely they simply went overlooked
    Well I will go back to OG for this so thanks for the info.

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    Awesome Find! Could we try the two new rare gems and the rainbow defense gem?
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    To collect and forge all d attack gems =

    1) Fight all through Saydhi's estate,
    2) at new rebirth, buy all attack gems
    3) go to setting, choose Restart Rebirth 1.
    4) repeat step 1, again and again and again.....

    and lastly, forge the same 3 elemental attack gems until...= rare gem

    I think this is the fastest way to collect and forge the attack gems in order to have the rare gems and of course it costs you a lot of $$$. ^_^
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    Anyone have a good idea of what might be enough money to save up before restarting rebirth 1 and going for the gems. Right now I am thinking I should save up around 20 mil. Would that be good enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by injuwarrior View Post
    Anyone have a good idea of what might be enough money to save up before restarting rebirth 1 and going for the gems. Right now I am thinking I should save up around 20 mil. Would that be good enough?
    Yeah, that should be fine. The battles at Saydhi's estate and the large chest should keep the money coming. I'm seriously contemplating on doing this technique on my next NG.
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    Wow, sweet Congrats Mammoth ! Im going to reset my OG to Rebirth 1 now, forget about GK hehe

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    ARRRGH I can't use that tactic since I'm grinding for the Pantheon....
    Mammoth, are you sure the gems work on the Dark Fiend? I don't have one (not by a long shot) but Holy magic doesn't work against it.
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    the Holy Band doesn't work on Dark Fiend, so I doubt the gems do. Unless the Dark Fiend has a specific immunity to Holy for some reason

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    I need to question the claim about the Bog Giant too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asianlitarian View Post
    I need to question the claim about the Bog Giant too.
    The answer is a resounding yes. It works against both.

    EDIT: Actually, I take that back... It's useless against both. I originally thought it worked because while I was battling the Bog Giant/Dark Fiend, the game shows a little rainbow sign in the upper right corner (Remember that it doesn't show anything if the titan is immune to certain magic but a little element sign if it's not?) Unlike titans who were immune to certain magic attack, such as Poison etc., dark fiend/bog giant/other bosses do receive damage from the rainbow gem, but only at one tenth of its full power.

    So nope. It doesn't work.

    Quote Originally Posted by RANKMAN View Post
    Awesome Find! Could we try the two new rare gems and the rainbow defense gem?
    I tried all six permutations. It's an impossible forge.
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    really? so the Dark Fiend is just immune to Holy? what the hell, that's really weird

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    I see. So you really are better off using a Nobel to fight bosses.
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    Great find, mammoth!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElPared View Post
    really? so the Dark Fiend is just immune to Holy? what the hell, that's really weird
    I don't think so. I just fought him, and he resisted at least Fire and Shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mammoth View Post
    The answer is a resounding yes. It works against both.

    EDIT: Actually, I take that back... It's useless against both. I originally thought it worked because while I was battling the Bog Giant/Dark Fiend, the game shows a little rainbow sign in the upper right corner (Remember that it doesn't show anything if the titan is immune to certain magic but a little element sign if it's not?) Unlike titans who were immune to certain magic attack, such as Poison etc., dark fiend/bog giant/other bosses do receive damage from the rainbow gem, but only at one tenth of its full power.

    So nope. It doesn't work.



    I tried all six permutations. It's an impossible forge.
    Thanks for the update. If I forge three different +400 elemental gems will I get a random +500 gem?
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    Wow great achievement mammoth, I can't imagine the time it must have taken to forge this gem!

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    There really should be a hidden GC achievement for forging a spectrum attack gem, considering how much effort it takes to do it.

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    Ok so far I see two definitive methods of doing this.

    1. Mammoths method of going to the END of the game and beating the 3 titans then losing to God King. Then of course purchasing gems and repeating.
    2. Baincardin's method of starting at the beginning of the game and beating everyone, then beating Saydhi. Buy your gems, and restart rebirth 1 and repeat.

    Which method is the better one (assuming you are in OG)? Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruggedland View Post
    There really should be a hidden GC achievement for forging a spectrum attack gem, considering how much effort it takes to do it.
    +1, we had Cold Fusion for rainbow defense. Maybe you get Cold Fusion for any rainbow gem now? (attack or defense)

    stormexdante, I think doing it at the end of the game is best for OG since you won't have to start a ne NG when you beat Raidriar. The restart rebirth1 version was intended for NG so you don't just have the gems for 4 fights.

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    i'm doing mammoths method. i guess it's much simpler for me compared to the other. plus the gold drops are better just like on your regular RB.

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    Hi mammoth is there any definite recipe to get all different elemental attack gems +400 ? please help, also tell ur gamecenter id

 

 
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