Gears of War RTS O_o

[BlueDodger]

This goes somewhat in this forum due to Judgment being a "future" game.


A RTS that combines the free-building and worker class of Starcraft with the simplicity of Halo Wars, with the awesomesauce of Gears.

The campaign will be in two parts, the first part will have the player take control of the Locust forces, while the 2nd part will be played from the CoG perspective. (Kind of like Starcraft in-which you play as all 3 races)

The story will take place after the Lightmass offensive following the Locust as they rise again to fight the humans, their campaign will go through Skorge's rise to power, the sinking of Ilima, all the way through to the assualt on Jacinto.

The CoG campaign will start with the evacuation of Jacinto, the battle of Vectes, all the way to the assualt on Azura.

Both sides (CoG and Locust) have 2 resources they can use for making units and buildings. (Food and Imulsion) Both sides can generate Food by creating CoG Farms, or Locust Slaughterhouses. Imulsion however needs to be mined by either the CoG worker, or the Locust Miner. (Two Imulsion mining sites are at each base at the start of a match and at certain points on the map)

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Human buildings:

COG Headquarters/Main building

CoG workers//1 unit//Tech level 0
Stranded (drafted Gears)//5 units//Tech level 0
Mortar Team//1 unit//Tech level 2
HoD Satelite//Able to make "striker units"//Tech level 3

COG Farm:

Creates 10 Food every 3 seconds for the COG forces

COG Refinery:

Raises Tech level to unlock new units and upgrades

Tech level 1: Age of Armaggedon
Tech level 2: Era of Silence
Tech level 3: Locust Era

COG Research Lab: Tech Level 2 to build

Upgrades your Forces

Draft: adds 30 to your Population//Tech Level 3//
Call to Arms: Reduces build time by a third//Tech Level 2//
Upgrade Sentries//Tech level 2 and 3//

COG Barracks: Tech level 0 to build

COG gear: Basic soldier//4 units//Tech level 0
Sniper: Marksmen//2 units//Tech level 1
Delta Gear: Veteren Gear//1 unit//Tech level 2

COG Fuel Depot: Tech level 3 to build

King Raven//Basic flying unit//Tech level 3
Centuar//CoG Tank//Tech level 3

COG Control Center: Tech level 2 to build

COG striker//1 unit//Uses hammer of Dawn//Tech level 3
COG Specialists//1unit//Repairs armored units and sabotages buildings//Tech level 2
J.A.C.K bot//1 unit//Increase attack and defense to nearby units//Tech level 3

CoG Vehicle Depot: Tech level 0 to build

Rat Bike//very fast scout unit//tech level 0
Silverback//Mulcher and Rocket launcher//Tech level 2
Derrick//Transport, loaded units add attack power to Derrick//Tech level 2

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Locust Buildings:

Nexus/Main Building

Locust Miner//1unit//Tech level 0
Wretches//10 units//Tech level 0
Tickers//5 units, great against buildings and soldiers//Tech level 1
Kantus//2 units/Tech level 2

Locust Slaughterhouse:

Feeds 10 Food every 3 seconds to the Locust Horde

Locust Temple:

Raises Tech Level to unlock new units and upgrades

Tech level 1: Age of Myths
Tech level 2: The Queens Era
Tech level 3: Trinity of Worms

Locust Shrine: Tech level 2 to build

Breeding Season: adds 50 to your population//Tech level 3//
Kantus Magic: Reduce build time by half//Tech Level 2//
Upgrade Troika: Tech Level 2 and 3//

Locust Hellspawn: Tech level 0 to build

Drone: Basic soldier//4 units//Tech Level 0
Sniper: Marksmen//2 units//Tech level 1
Theron: Veteren Drone//1 unit//Tech level 2

Boomer barracks: Tech level 1 to build

Butcher*//Tech level 1*
Boomer//great against armor//Tech level 2
Grinder//great against infantry//Tech level 2

*At Tech level 2, Butcher becomes Flame boomer, At Tech level 3, Flame Boomer becomes Mauler


Locust War-Machine: Tech level 2 to build

Reaver//basic flying unit for Locust//Tech level 2
Corpser//Ambush unit, hides underground//Tech level 3
Brumak//Ultimate locust machine//Tech level 3


Locust Beast Pit: Tech level 1 to build

Bloodmount//2 fast attack units//Tech level 1
Seeder//Artillery spawner unit//Tech level 2
Gas-Barge//slow massive transport//Tech level 2



Special Powers and Defense

Auto-Turret/Troika Turret: Build up to 4 Defense Turrets//Tech Level 1//250$

COG Special

Purchase at Research Lab:

Hammer Strike: 3 hammers fire to create a huge area-effect, killing everything inside the radius.//Tech Level 3//(5 second warning to all players)

Resonator: Maps out area of your choosing//Tech level 2//


Locust Special

Purchase at Shrine:

RiftWorm: Comes out from under the ground, is able to swallow entire armies in mere seconds.//Tech level 3//(5 second warning to all players)

Emergence Hole: Makeshift Hellspawn building. Use at forward positions and behind enemy lines//Tech level 2//


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Lambent force

Imulsion Hive (Main Building)

Polyp//worker unit
Formers//10 units//Tech level 0
Lambent wretches//5 units//Tech level 0
Lambent Seeder*//1 unit//Tech level 2

Mass Graves: (bodies of CoG and Locust "feed" the Lambent by using their corpses as vessels)

Generates 10 Food every 3 seconds for the Lambent

Imulsion pool: Raises tech level to unlock new units and upgrades

Tech Level 1: Locust civil War
Tech Level 2: Flooding of Jacinto
Tech Level 3: Cricital Mass

Imulsion vents: Tech level 2 to build, Upgrades the Lambent

Critical state: adds 75 to your population//Tech level 3
Accelerated Evolution: Reduces unit build time by a third
Upgrade Drudge Tower: Tech level 2 and Tech level 3


Lambent Stalk: Tech level 1 to build

Lambent Drone//5 units//Tech level 1
Drudge//2 units//Tech level 1
Lambent Theron//1 unit//Tech level 2 (Elite Drudge)

Heavy Stalk: Tech level 2 to build

Gunker//Artillery unit//Tech level 2
Lambent Berserker//Juggernaut unit//Tech level 3


Special powers for Lambent:

Lambent Brumak: (Uber unit/Tower) Select an area of the map, and after a 5 second earthquake, a Lambent Brumak emerges from the selected point. This unit has super-high health, only able to be taken down by an entire army, however it cannot move, and has a short range attack, so keep your distance!

Imulsion Sinkhole: Select an area on the map, and any units in the selected area will fall into a pool of imulsion, killing them instantly. Half the Food cost of the units killed will be converted into Food for the player (example: 3 units killed which cost a total of 300 Food will give the player 150 Food



*Lambent Seeder: Spreads Imulsion fumes that can heal Lambent units that aren't in combat


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There is more stuff I can add, like:

Individual upgrades for units (like drones upgrading to Grenadiers)

Heroes: Theron Elite, RAAM, Skorge, Marcus, Hoffman, Cole, etc...

Costs per unit (CoG Gear = 75 Food, Centaur tank = 350 Imulsion, 200 Food)

Neutral/Hostile units (Stranded, Lambent)

But I don't feel like adding too much stuff.


So what do you guys think? I would seriously...(lol pun) love a RTS version of Gears of War, we always had the squad, individual view of Gears, but don't you want to know what else was happening when Marcus and Dom went underground to sink Jacinto, or how about the battle of Azura when Delta went inside to find Adam Fenix.

[GearsCat]

Me like.
+1

[Theronmaster]

I've discussed this idea before. I love it!!

[PopeAdrian37th]

I would expect a Gears movie before this happens.

[CHEEZMO619]

I would play that.

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[Theronmaster]

I would expect a Gears movie before this happens.

even better!!!! lol

[kid_below_-0]

good i guess

[John Matrix]

Need a heavy or medium tank for the COG!

I would actually play an RTS if it was good enough gameplay-wise and had strong atmosphere ( the best RTS games had both those qualities IMO).

[Viewing the hue]

Hell yeah a grand idea

[BlueDodger]

Thanks for all the support

Need a heavy or medium tank for the COG!

I would actually play an RTS if it was good enough gameplay-wise and had strong atmosphere ( the best RTS games had both those qualities IMO).

That would mean the Centaur tank would be Tech 2, with the actual CoG tank (seen in comics I believe) as an expensive Tech 3 upgrade.


I'm trying to have only around 3 units per building so Gears could use a "circle menu" like the one in Halo Wars that worked great for a controller.


So you would have the 3 units on the right side and each unit would have its own upgrades on the left side of the circle.

With the COG headquarters/Locust Nexus the worker unit would be at the top of the "circle" (at 12 o'clock)

[Doctor Pie 7056]

I'm not a fan of RTS

[BlueDodger]

I'm not a fan of RTS

I'm not a fan of doctors...especially a pie who thinks it is a Doctor...

meh, it's ok, alot of people aren't fans of FPS, TPS, RTS, or RPGs, etc...

Everyone has a taste

[Yamato Kakashi]

This is excellent!!

[Ulto]

Question: Did this thread have any influence on your post?

http://forums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=920383

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Edit: My phone likes to type the wrong words.

[BlueDodger]

Question: Did those thread have any influence on your post?

http://forums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=920383

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No, actually it was one of my threads a while back...like 2010 back...(back when I was only a month old, on the forums )

http://forums.epicgames.com/threads/...Different-quot

(don't make me regret showing you the link, don't post in there)

[Ulto]

No, actually it was one of my threads a while back...like 2010 back...(back when I was only a month old, on the forums )

http://forums.epicgames.com/threads/...Different-quot

(don't make me regret showing you the link, don't post in there)

Wow. Very detailed post. Much like the OP, of this thread .

That last bit of your post made me chuckle though .

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[Theronmaster]

I'm not a fan of RTS

not allowed leave.

[BFW Wolf]

I like the idea though i think i wouldnt play it

[DaRkNeSs]

I wouldn't like this. Your idea seems good, but I just don't like the RTS genre.

[ClearlyBalkan]

I don't won't to see this happen. I just don't; it doesn't feel right.

[DaRkNeSs]

I don't won't to see this happen. I just don't; it doesn't feel right.

Off-topic, but Halo Wars never felt like Halo. Agree.

[No KNOTsense]

On paper it sounds interesting, but I seriously doubt it would be a good game. As far as I know, Epic has primarily been a shooter producing studio (except for Jazz Jackrabbit) so I don't know how well they could make an RTS. The gameplay would more than likely be better if another studio made it, but then the Gears' feel probably wouldn't be there.

[KILL3R II UK]

Like you OP I've also spent a fair bit of time thinking how awesome a gears RTS would be. I can never see it happening though, Halo Wars didn't do massively well, and Halo is more popular.

[KILL3R II UK]

Off-topic, but Halo Wars never felt like Halo. Agree.

How exactly are you meant to make an RTS seem like a FPS? :P I thought they did a great job of making it an extension of the halo universe, the menus, HUD all felt like a Halo game, and the sounds and animations all felt straight from a Halo game, just from another perspective.

On paper it sounds interesting, but I seriously doubt it would be a good game. As far as I know, Epic has primarily been a shooter producing studio (except for Jazz Jackrabbit) so I don't know how well they could make an RTS. The gameplay would more than likely be better if another studio made it, but then the Gears' feel probably wouldn't be there.

I would imagine they would use a different studio, like they did with Halo Wars (the studio who made that though are now closed, not a good indicator XD)

[No KNOTsense]

How exactly are you meant to make an RTS seem like a FPS? :P I thought they did a great job of making it an extension of the halo universe, the menus, HUD all felt like a Halo game, and the sounds and animations all felt straight from a Halo game, just from another perspective.



I would imagine they would use a different studio, like they did with Halo Wars (the studio who made that though are now closed, not a good indicator XD)

I have to say that Halo Wars has the best interface for an RTS on consoles, but still doesn't change the fact that it didn't have as much charisma as the Bungie Halo games. I imagine the same would happen for a Gears RTS. But don't get me wrong, I would still buy such a game if it were ever developed.

[Ulto]

Still would love this if it were ever to become a game. Imagine locust catapults taking down ravens, seeders disrupting comms and throwing out nemacysts, squads of gears told to charge locusts with their retro's.

It would just be ****ing awesome.

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[Theronmaster]

Still would love this if it were ever to become a game. Imagine locust catapults taking down ravens, seeders disrupting comms and throwing out nemacysts, squads of gears told to charge locusts with their retro's.

It would just be ****ing awesome.

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make it happen epic!!!

[BlueDodger]

Still would love this if it were ever to become a game. Imagine locust catapults taking down ravens, seeders disrupting comms and throwing out nemacysts, squads of gears told to charge locusts with their retro's.

It would just be ****ing awesome.

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I'm trying to include Seeders, gas barges, and Siege Beasts into the mix for the Locust.

But I don't know what the CoG counter-part would be for the Seeders/Gas Barges.

Seeders: Ground to Ground, and Ground to Air Artillery. (weak against Armor, great against Infantry, and Air)

Gas Barge: Transport Airship, able to carry up to 4 squads of units (weak against Air and Armor, great against Infantry)

Siege Beasts: Artillery, superb range, (great against Armor, week against Infantry and Air)


I'm thinking about a Derrick transport vehicule, but it seems redundant to have a ground transport unit.

[Clayman XIII]

I would definitely play it. You put alot of detail into this, nice job.

[Rainbow Dash]

No thanks... Halo wars for me was just terrible... And this will be too I have got nothing against RTS I just think it isn't a thing EPIC should do

[Ulto]

I'm trying to include Seeders, gas barges, and Siege Beasts into the mix for the Locust.

But I don't know what the CoG counter-part would be for the Seeders/Gas Barges.

Seeders: Ground to Ground, and Ground to Air Artillery. (weak against Armor, great against Infantry, and Air)

Gas Barge: Transport Airship, able to carry up to 4 squads of units (weak against Air and Armor, great against Infantry)

Siege Beasts: Artillery, superb range, (great against Armor, week against Infantry and Air)


I'm thinking about a Derrick transport vehicule, but it seems redundant to have a ground transport unit.

Thinking seeders could be ' mobile bases ', somewhat like the elephant in halo wars. The main difference being the seeder only produces nemacysts.

Although the COG could use vehicles like Betty (forgot name of it, Dizzy's huge "car" that carries the grindlifts) and the APC's that were used to transport gears and civilians in Raam's Shadow to faster transport troops around the field.

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[Victimizer]

I would absolutely love to see a Gears RTS!
Great job on creating units and such OP. I hope we'll get to see a Gears RTS sometime in the future.

[AndJusticeForMe]

I'm sorry for asking this, but would it be similar to how Warcraft 1-3 were? I don't know very much about PC games and from what I've heard, Warcraft was a RTS.

[BlueDodger]

Thinking seeders could be ' mobile bases ', somewhat like the elephant in halo wars. The main difference being the seeder only produces nemacysts.

Although the COG could use vehicles like Betty (forgot name of it, Dizzy's huge "car" that carries the grindlifts) and the APC's that were used to transport gears and civilians in Raam's Shadow to faster transport troops around the field.

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So maybe the Seeder could be used as an area denial unit, where lets say you have a backdoor into your base. Set the Seeder there and start making Nemacyst (1 unit, 1 population cost) And it will continue to ink the area, creating a wall virtually unpassable for aerial units


Those "cars" are called Derricks. And having a ground transport is (redundent, useless,) unless it was made into an equivalent of the Elephant in Halo wars. Being able to train CoG gears and Snipers.


APC's would then be pointless.

I would absolutely love to see a Gears RTS!
Great job on creating units and such OP. I hope we'll get to see a Gears RTS sometime in the future.

Thank you, I have alot of notes for unit upgrades too (example: drones upgrading to Grenadiers)

I'm sorry for asking this, but would it be similar to how Warcraft 1-3 were? I don't know very much about PC games and from what I've heard, Warcraft was a RTS.

I have not played/seen Warcraft being played. I was only in Dune, and Starcraft when it comes to PC RTS's

[Ulto]

I can see ther redundancy in having two transports, but atleast having one would add some additional strategy. The derrick would move faster than infantry, and could mass transport them. Also, having the derrick manned would increase it's damage (turrets), and infantry could not be harmed while on the derrick. This would allow the infantry faster travel at less expense to the army as a whole.

However, if the derrick is destroyed with the infantry inside, most would perish. (eg. some survive, as Tai was able to escape when his derrick was ambushed by tickers)

Perhaps not include the APC as it would seem redundant with the derrick.

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[BlueDodger]

I can see ther redundancy in having two transports, but atleast having one would add some additional strategy. The derrick would move faster than infantry, and could mass transport them. Also, having the derrick manned would increase it's damage (turrets), and infantry could not be harmed while on the derrick. This would allow the infantry faster travel at less expense to the army as a whole.

However, if the derrick is destroyed with the infantry inside, most would perish. (eg. some survive, as Tai was able to escape when his derrick was ambushed by tickers)

Perhaps not include the APC as it would seem redundant with the derrick.

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Here are my two new additions to the OP:

Locust Beast-pit: The Locust have engineered the Hollow creatures to abominations to fuel their war machine


Locust Beast Pit: Tech level 1 to build

Bloodmount//2 fast attack units//Tech level 1
Seeder//Artillery spawner unit//Tech level 2
Gas-Barge//slow massive transport//Tech level 2

CoG Vehicle Depot: Tech level 0 to build

Rat Bike//very fast scout unit//tech level 0
Silverback//Mulcher and Rocket launcher//Tech level 2
Derrick//Transport, loaded units add attack power to Derrick//Tech level 2

I've also added the Corpser, and J.A.C.K bot.

[BlueDodger]

bump


adding a poll

[Rattlecat23]

If there was one i wouldn't get it. I used to be a fan of rts but after recently playing one recently i realised i've become bored of that genre

[SneaKerhead2009]

This is a great idea!
But wouldn't it make sense to call Tech level 2 of the CoG Pendelum Era? And also and idea of my own. A special ability for the CoG should be to call in a squad of Onyx Guards dropped from a King Raven to a location of your choosing. For the Locust it should open up an e-hole to deploy a squad of Theron Elite.

[BlueDodger]

This is a great idea!
But wouldn't it make sense to call Tech level 2 of the CoG Pendelum Era? And also and idea of my own. A special ability for the CoG should be to call in a squad of Onyx Guards dropped from a King Raven to a location of your choosing. For the Locust it should open up an e-hole to deploy a squad of Theron Elite.

Well, I already have the E-hole special ability for the Locust to spawn at any part of the map.

I was thinking about having a Hero building, or somehow able to incorperate them into the Main building.

Locust: (you can deploy 3 Theron Elites at one time)

Theron Elite (Better than Theron)
Theron Elite
Theron Elite
Hydra
Skorge
RAAM
Myrrah (on Tempest)


CoG: (you can deploy 3 Onyx Guards at one time)

Onyx Guard (Better than Delta Gear)
Onyx Guard
Onyx Guard
Hoffman (with HoD)
Cole
Dom
Marcus