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    Default Gearsof War:Pendulum Wars FPS

    I know this isn't a Judgment post, but this is the closest place I could find to a "Future Games" forum.

    EDIT: In case point 1 was less than clear; there would be no executions.

    Ok, before I get flamed into hell for suggesting Gears go FPS, hear me out. Cliffy B has always said Epic will not make a Gears game w/out Locust (i.e. Pendulum Wars (PW)). I haven’t found specific reasons why but it’s a fair bet that chainsawing fellow human beings (as well as the rest of executions) just doesn’t have the right feel and the outcry from censors and what-not is something they just don’t want to deal with. Moreover, I can’t imagine a contemporary Gears game human on human. However, introducing a FPS with the feel of Gears is something else entirely, and there are other advantages:

    1. No lancers – I know some will hate this but the PW was before they were invented and executions/sawing don’t fit an FPS.
    2. Traviss’ books detail weaponry and tactics never brought to the games b/c they just didn’t fit: Longspears, gut-punchers, Petrel airstrikes, and UIR weapons. This wider weapon and tactic selection could easily be incorporated into a FPS.
    3. Community – Just check these forums, a huge number of players want to see a PW game.
    4. Backstory Opportunity – The PW lasted decades; the levels in a FPS could span this time providing new insight into the Gears universe and how our favorite characters became who they are.
    5. People Can Fly - However you feel about PCF’s shooter, you can’t deny that it was beautifully rendered. With good planning, a partner like PCF could make one hell of Gears FPS.

    Ok, I’ll be fair let’s look at some negative arguments:

    1. Comparisons to a certain other franchise – These comparisons will be made, but with enough of Cliffy B’s “polishing” a Gears FPS could be a real competitor and perhaps draw more players and if those players like the game they might go look at the previous titles in the franchise.
    2. Gears is just not a FPS – Other games have branched out, Warcraft used to be a strategic warfare game, but creating a MMORPG in that universe took it to the next level; without insulting its predecessors.
    3. Gears is team focused – Other FPS have worked the team aspect well, in particular I liked Rainbow Six Vegas.

    I’m not saying it would be easy and there would always be some who just won’t embrace a big change like this; but I do feel this is the only way to get a Pendulum Wars Gears game.

    Ok, now I’m just going to throw you some mission ideas and then you can all slow-roast me over an open fire.

    1. Young Bernie sniper mission where her performance at the end results in her getting promoted to Sergeant. Might have young Hoffman cameo.
    2. Pesanga stealth mission, could be during Anvil Gate siege, but not necessarily.
    3. Some early Spec-ops mission resulting in getting the intel that the UIR is building the Hammer at Aspho Fields.
    4. Any kind of ancillary characters could be examined: Helena Stroud, Adam Fenix when he was a Gear, Dom’s father.

    Please add your own thoughts on how to make this idea better.
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    Gears is about Locust. They will make a new IP over a Pendulum Wars game. The Pendulum wars had very few large scale battles. The game would mainly a movie in cinematics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAO Devil View Post
    Gears is about Locust. They will make a new IP over a Pendulum Wars game. The Pendulum wars had very few large scale battles. The game would mainly a movie in cinematics.
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    *Facepalm* This would have more gore since they have to make the execution with even more detail so really this goes against your point meaning this thread is contradicting so inb4threadlock
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    No thanks. There is already a plethora of FPS games out there.
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    Gears can't be Gears without the Locust man. Sure we can have books with backstory before the Locust invasion, but a game wouldn't work.

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    If there was a game like this it would have only Retro lancers and hammerburst as main rifles. The lancer was created to kill Locust, when Tai killed a Locust with a chainsaw.
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    May as well call it Gears of Duty. Big no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaRkNeSs View Post
    May as well call it Gears of Duty. Big no.
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    a gears based fps of any kind is a no. imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rerv View Post
    If there was a game like this it would have only Retro lancers and hammerburst as main rifles. The lancer was created to kill Locust, when Tai killed a Locust with a chainsaw.
    There wouldn't be a hammerburst either. It's a locust weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAO Devil View Post
    Gears is about Locust. They will make a new IP over a Pendulum Wars game. The Pendulum wars had very few large scale battles. The game would mainly a movie in cinematics.
    ...which is why if they ever did make a Pendulum Wars game, it would probably be presented in a style that flashes through significant events of the war and is played by different/older versions of Gears each time the Act changes.

    One Act for the Siege of Anvil Gate, one Act for the Battle of Aspho Fields, etc. You'd see the Pendulum Wars progress, starting from the beginning of it in Act One,, and how it changes through the 80 years and its significant battles, ending with Aspho. The separation of the stories also allows for them to be presented in a variety of ways (building on Act One of Gears 3).

    What would really top it off is if each Act had its own, independant writer. The game would be like a collection of short stories set throughout the Pendulum Era.
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    Gears based fps involving the pendulum wars? Someone likes a very certain game. Not gonna happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FullDiamond View Post
    There wouldn't be a hammerburst either. It's a locust weapon.

    Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Well I guess it would have only the retro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rerv View Post
    Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Well I guess it would have only the retro.
    ...and an entire arsenal of new UIR weapons that have yet to be seen.

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    A Gears of War game that's not in a third person perspective and doesn't have the locust isn't a Gears of War game at all.
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    hopefully the uir have weapons too lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No KNOTsense View Post
    A Gears of War game that's not in a third person perspective and doesn't have the locust isn't a Gears of War game at all.
    Exactly. I mean yeah perhaps have a game in FPS set in the Pendulum Wars; don't make it a GoW title. Make it a different title like Apex of War or something (one of the old names for GoW)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaRkNeSs View Post
    Exactly. I mean yeah perhaps have a game in FPS set in the Pendulum Wars; don't make it a GoW title. Make it a different title like Apex of War or something (one of the old names for GoW)
    this. anyone who buys it thinking gears of war would be furious lol.

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    hmmmm.. i dont think this would EVER be accepted by the community lol

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    I don't want a GEARS game like this. No. I wouldn't care if they made a weird offshoot game though, with a different name. PCF can make it or something.
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    Seems like its getting a lot of hate just for being a FPS. I actually like the idea and support it! They can just name it something else and just have it in the same universe as gears.

    Also I don't see why some people are calling it COD just because its a FPS. Not all fps play the same way and if they got PCF to do this it would be great! (I like bulletstorm a lot)


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    Gears of War will NEVER be an FPS for several reasons:

    1. The fast-paced gameplay combined with the shaky camera would drive people to nausea.

    2. Removing Executions from Gears would be worse than removing the Gnasher. Right now, executions are the ONLY thing unanimously agreed upon in the community. Not to mention the censor already don't care that in Wingman you can chainsaw human beings playing as other humans.

    3. "Cliffy B has always said Epic will not make a Gears game w/out Locust (i.e. Pendulum Wars (PW))." I'm almost positive he was talking specifically about a Pendulum Wars game.

    4. Pretty much all the story-based changes and additions could be done in the traditional 3rd-person game.
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    No thank you. Gears is great the way it is, that's way too many changes for me. And I prefer 3rd person shooters way more than 1st. That's why I don't play any of the other shooters out there.
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    Gears is and always will be TPS

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    I like this idea the missions seem intense i mean really people you cant knock things before you try it the gears forum is to close minded

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperKingBender View Post
    Seems like its getting a lot of hate just for being a FPS. I actually like the idea and support it! They can just name it something else and just have it in the same universe as gears.

    Also I don't see why some people are calling it COD just because its a FPS. Not all fps play the same way and if they got PCF to do this it would be great! (I like bulletstorm a lot)


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    I also like this idea to and maybe the can get some tips from ubisoft or something look how successful ghostrecon is as a 3rd person shooter i think gears like that would be a great addition and the fan base would grow

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    Im gunna say yes. though id only buy it for campaign reasons and not play the MP, i agree itd be good for francise and itd bring more players in but still be a stand alone game. i could imagine it being like condemned but an fps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizkitdoh View Post
    I don't want a GEARS game like this. No. I wouldn't care if they made a weird offshoot game though, with a different name. PCF can make it or something.
    The OP's idea could be quite fun as a game solely made by PCF. I mean I don't mind the human vs human on CoD but I wouldn't want it to replace Locust vs. Human on GoW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NFI View Post
    Metal Gear Pendulum Wars
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    Simply, I hate first person shooters and so long as I have Gears I will never play another FPS.
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    I think OP has a good idea in theory, but stick to the Third Person view. gears in an already saturated FPS market wouldnt get anywhere especially if xbox exclusive
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louix BlenkTron View Post
    I think OP has a good idea in theory, but stick to the Third Person view. gears in an already saturated FPS market wouldnt get anywhere especially if xbox exclusive
    It wouldn't be Gears of War. It should have a different name and be produced by PCF. And be an FPS. I'd buy it

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    No Locust and FPS sounds like everything Gears shouldn't be too me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Locust BarmyArmy View Post
    No Locust and FPS sounds like everything Gears shouldn't be too me.
    Sums it up well.
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    No. Hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevermind1982 View Post
    No. Hands down.
    How about an RPG version then? Is that more to your tastes lol
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    The Pendulum Wars was mostly small skirmishes and stealth missions. I don't see it making a very interesting game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenyThisFlesh View Post
    The Pendulum Wars was mostly small skirmishes and stealth missions. I don't see it making a very interesting game.
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    I dont think the op's idea is bad I would just prefer the resoures be put into gears of war.

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    No just no... It isn't the same without killing grubs as well as it would cut out the Lancer so only retro... That would be just terrible
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    Ok, that's a good pool of useful information (and I got a little scorched). How about a minor change? Say the game is told from the UIR perspective? Maybe drop the the GOW title and just call it Pendulum Wars? You could still touch on the major events and maybe end up with the Gorasni? Anyone have thoughts on that?


 
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