Regarding DLC and 'buckets' of players.

[Meuj]

From personal experience, I've had a tough time consistently finding full games on Gears 3 ever since the DLC was released. One of the keywords during development was 'consolidation', and that's pretty much gone out the window if you ask me. I hope the same doesn't go for Judgment.

I'm a fan of variety. I enjoy the special events playlists, etc. I just think that the community has been split to the point where it takes over 5 minutes of searching to find a ranked game, or a blessing from above to find a full quick match.

In an ideal world, DLC would be free. You could get away with having a wide variety of playlists because you'd know that the vast majority of players would have the required content, and people like me wouldn't have to resort to playing regular TDM/ No DLC playlists. This will never happen, though.

So what's the solution, really? Do we take away certain permanent playlists like the different Alpha varieties, BBTE, Stranded etc, only to have people upset that their favourite playlist has been reduced to a weekly special event, or do we try to make everybody happy and as a result narrow the opportunity to play with an abundance of people?

[upsmadman]

I hope they go back to ranked and player matches only like gears 1. Also make it so no matter how much dlc comes out u can always play ranked.

Although this may lead to playing on the maps that shipped with the game more so than dlc maps so be it. Id rather play old maps with ppl. Instead of wasting all my time searching for ppl with dlc.

[DenyThisFlesh]

You're in the UK so I can understand your frustration. Things are much better in the US. They are for me at least. I play mostly Guardian and KOTH and I usually find full quick matches easily. Ranked matches can be tough to find after about 2am unless I want to play TDM, which I usually don't.

I do want to see some consolidation for Judgment. We don't need 16 different playlists and then those are further divided into ranked and quick. 32 different "buckets" of players is far too many. That doesn't even include Beast, Horde, Campaign, or Arcade. Campaign and Arcade each have a separate "bucket" for RAAM's Shadow as well. The population is spread way too thin.

[Demonz II]

Just get rid of ranked or quick. But if they get rid of ranked then qm needs to be modified because killing bots is lame. I think if they didnt have leaderboards for qm less people would play it and where you dont get so much xp for killing bots over and over again.

[Gnashty NaS]

Yeah I have to search and back out and search and back out over and over to find a quick match worth playing. I'd like this to be addressed in Judgment.

[Cryra]

Should all be like the first map pack. Free for everyone, though can be purchased if you want the extra's.

A game like gears has too small a community to handle such a player split, halo, cod etc. That's fine - hundreds of thousand of people play those.

You're also limited as to what you can play in dedi's - you only get a choice of 2 playlists and guess what? It's very deserted.

[DaRkNeSs]

Should all be like the first map pack. Free for everyone, though can be purchased if you want the extra's.

A game like gears has too small a community to handle such a player split, halo, cod etc. That's fine - hundreds of thousand of people play those.

You're also limited as to what you can play in dedi's - you only get a choice of 2 playlists and guess what? It's very deserted.

Yeah, but remember the uproar when the Booster Pack was released. It's a no win for EPIC...

[ClearlyBalkan]

GOW3 in general play small amount of people; I don't know the situation in USA but in Europe there is literally none playing ranked KOTH. If you don't organize 10 players , literally none. The population was decent 6 months ago, but everything was ruined when retarded teams with modded HB decided to have fun. RugbyBoy & others; they're all familiar.

[NFI]

I hope they go back to ranked and player matches only like gears 1. Also make it so no matter how much dlc comes out u can always play ranked.

Impossible as long as you have dedicated servers. Also Quick match won't be removed either. Either the DLC is loaded into the playlists or it isn't. If it is, whoever doesn't have has an incompatible gm version in relation to the servers. There is no way around it unless you allow ppl to rent servers. The server infrastructure doesn't allow server searches so it can't be done that way either.

Although this may lead to playing on the maps that shipped with the game more so than dlc maps so be it. Id rather play old maps with ppl. Instead of wasting all my time searching for ppl with dlc.

They won't do this.

Should all be like the first map pack. Free for everyone, though can be purchased if you want the extra's

No it shouldn't. Creation of maps requires resources, both financial and human time investment. That's time that could be spent creating something else that will make them money. No one will buy it if the maps are free, so it's a pointless and costly time sink. Ppl need to drop this utopian, socialist notion it "should be free". They are trying to make money.

If players want I, buy it.

[allcitychessclub13]

Impossible as long as you have dedicated servers. Also Quick match won't be removed either. Either the DLC is loaded into the playlists or it isn't. If it is, whoever doesn't have has an incompatible gm version in relation to the servers. There is no way around it unless you allow ppl to rent servers. The server infrastructure doesn't allow server searches so it can't be done that way either.



They won't do this.




No it shouldn't. Creation of maps requires resources, both financial and human time investment. That's time that could be spent creating something else that will make them money. No one will buy it if the maps are free, so it's a pointless and costly time sink. Ppl need to drop this utopian, socialist notion it "should be free". They are trying to make money.

If players want I, buy it.

Ive seen better alternatives by some of the other forummers that really put the the idea of having quick and ranked to shame. So just maybe epic will scrap quick this time around.

[NFI]

Ive seen better alternatives by some of the other forummers that really put the the idea of having quick and ranked to shame. So just maybe epic will scrap quick this time around.

I wouldn't bet on it. I went to go back to edit my post to change it to sound less definitive so my wording was clearly poor. However, the ideas I have seen are actually pretty bad around here, and the fact quick is so much more popular, if there is a change, I would wager it will come at the expense of "ranked" creating a situation like you see in most mainstream shooters. You simply play. No quick or ranked designations. People feeling quick should be removed so everyone plays ranked, is a terrible idea. The notion of restricting stats or medal progression, is equally idiotic. Same goes with having a single playlist that forces everyone to take a quit penalty.

None of these things is ever going to happen. This I do know for certain. In fact each suggestion was called a troll suggestion, or flat out stupid, by the MP team at various points since Gears 3 released.

However if something goes, people need to understand its most likely going to be ranked. One thing I will say with utmost certainty is they will never create a single solitary game mode where you are penalized for quitting. If anything its going to be like you see in games like BF, COD, or any other major shooter. One solitary playlist where everyone plays, but it will have more in common with quick match than anything.

My bet is no change, if there is, odds are it will be like you have in the shooters I mentioned above, meaning it will basically be a quick match style playlist. You can drop in and out at will.

[allcitychessclub13]

I wouldn't bet on it. I went to go back to edit my post to change it to sound less definitive so my wording was clearly poor. However, the ideas I have seen are actually pretty bad around here, and the fact quick is so much more popular, if there is a change, I would wager it will come at the expense of "ranked" creating a situation like you see in most mainstream shooters. You simply play. No quick or ranked designations. People feeling quick should be removed so everyone plays ranked, is a terrible idea. The notion of restricting stats or medal progression, is equally idiotic. Same goes with having a single playlist that forces everyone to take a quit penalty.

None of these things is ever going to happen. This I do know for certain. In fact each suggestion was called a troll suggestion, or flat out stupid, by the MP team at various points since Gears 3 released.

However if something goes, people need to understand its most likely going to be ranked. One thing I will say with utmost certainty is they will never create a single solitary game mode where you are penalized for quitting. If anything its going to be like you see in games like BF, COD, or any other major shooter. One solitary playlist where everyone plays, but it will have more in common with quick match than anything.

My bet is no change, if there is, odds are it will be like you have in the shooters I mentioned above, meaning it will basically be a quick match style playlist. You can drop in and out at will.

I feel all ranked would work if they developed a quitting system that punished repeat offenders only, then we would get mostly full matches while people who have important and sudden issues that come up don't get penalized.

[NFI]

I feel all ranked would work if they developed a quitting system that punished repeat offenders only, then we would get mostly full matches while people who have important and sudden issues that come up don't get penalized.

The thing is those systems in other games are ranked. The criteria for "ranked" as far as any game on XBOX Live is their required use of Trueskill. You are going to either have a split designation as we have now, or you will some sort of system you find in other games like COD, which has only one play "style" utilizing true skill across the board.

If I was a betting man I am going to bet you are going to see what we have now.