WOW! Great Podcast! Here's a general overview.....

[synge32]

Great job Raczilla and PixelK1tty ! I admit that I was skeptical that any decent storyline info would be revealed, of course no major spoilers, but alot of GREAT tidbits and background info.

It's great to know that the ENTIRE storyline was been mapped out, makes speculating that much more fun, knowing that there are many clues everywhere in the game.

Here's the link again, make sure to check it out!

http://epicgames.com/community/2012/...onald-mustard/

Unfortunatly, there has been some negativity on the forum lately, I think a large part of this is because there is really nothing new to discuss...

There's alot of fun details revealed in this podcast, I'll try to start a new thread each day about each new storyline aspect that was revealed, hopefully generate some fun discussion.

So, to encourage everyone to listen to the podcast, Here is a quick breakdown of what was revealed, make sure to listen to get all of the details!

1. The storyline is well mapped out, from 50,000 years ago to the present, including planet and time

2. Explanation of the Stone Demon and Archivist's "immortal" status... (Stone Demon is VERY interesting!)

3. Discussion of IB and relation to Egyptian mythology. the Siris and Ausar names were carefully picked out, (listen closely here when Mustard discusses Ausar's memory wipe, I think he unintentionally left a clue)

4. Siris' Tattoos explained

5. WoS and Raidriar's similar armor discussed. Mustard reveals alot more than I thought he would and confirms some suspicions that we have had

6. A good explanation of the RULING FOUR. *WOW, this is really good stuff for the storyline buffs!

7. Why they decided to imprison the worker, I think some more unintentional clues here as well

8. Finnally, that this is all just a setup to a much bigger story, like "the hobbit" was for the Lord of the Rings. Very exciting!!



OK, I didn't want to go in depth on the topics, Everyone should listen to the podcast first!,, I'll start some new threads on the new info that was revealed.


Again, great job on the Podcast!

[Farfield]

Awesome! I been though that Infinity Blade story were -in a way of say- write on the way, and now that Donald has talked about the story i'm impatient about new revelations of the story.

About the Siris tatoos, i though was only part of the armor, i mean like Cardboard armor, pure decoration of the game because in the cutscene in the rebirth chamber i didn't see any tatoos.

[asianlitarian]

I noticed when Mr. Mustard was talking about rebirthing chambers and the Archivist, he started to mention something about "phoenix chambers"... What do you think he means?

[asianlitarian]

GREAT podcast, though.

[ElPared]

I noticed when Mr. Mustard was talking about rebirthing chambers and the Archivist, he started to mention something about "phoenix chambers"... What do you think he means?

It could mean anything, but it is likely simply a referecne to the fact that the Phoenix of Greek/Roman mythos became reborn from it's own ashes, much the same way the "dead" Siris is brought back to life using his old body.

However, the unintentional clue here could be this: The Phoenix in myths combusts into flame when it dies and from its ashes a new baby Phoenix is born. The Phoenix is NOT resurrected from its old body, it is literally reborn as an infant from its ashes. This could be a differentiation between the rebirthing method Siris used in IB and the one he uses in IB2. In IB1 he was brought back to life using the "Phoenix method" which brought him back as a child so he wouldn't regain his old memories. But in IB2 he is brought back using what I will call the "Cruciform method" which brings his body back as it was right before he died.

[synge32]

It could mean anything, but it is likely simply a referecne to the fact that the Phoenix of Greek/Roman mythos became reborn from it's own ashes, much the same way the "dead" Siris is brought back to life using his old body.

However, the unintentional clue here could be this: The Phoenix in myths combusts into flame when it dies and from its ashes a new baby Phoenix is born. The Phoenix is NOT resurrected from its old body, it is literally reborn as an infant from its ashes. This could be a differentiation between the rebirthing method Siris used in IB and the one he uses in IB2. In IB1 he was brought back to life using the "Phoenix method" which brought him back as a child so he wouldn't regain his old memories. But in IB2 he is brought back using what I will call the "Cruciform method" which brings his body back as it was right before he died.

Great analysis! Mustard called it a Phoenix chamber and almost seems to cut himself off as he says it, as if he just realized that the name " Phoenix chamber". Has not yet been revealed

El, I think you hit it dead on, Mustard also used the word " clone" three times in the interview, ( when explaining that the tattoos where placed so that the player knew that it was the same body every time, and not just a clone). So I think your either reborn into your same body ( which takes much longer) or into a clones body. ( hence Raidrair's BUDs in IB1). And we know that Raidrair was reborn into a new body after being struck down in IB1.

The Phoenix thing is very interesting,, also remember that Siris' body was burned to a char after ISA killed him at Saydhi's estate..

Soo much to discuss!

[Squashy]

Sooooo, the stone demon is a droid, and the archivist is some sort of old fart?

[ElPared]

the Archivist is/was immortal, but not technically "deathless" since he had no way of resurrecting himself. This would seem to confirm that the Deathless' method for actually being "deathless" is some form of magic/technology that only they know about and is privileged information among their houses or whatever. But yes, the Stone Demon is a golem of some kind and the Archivist is an old old old fart

as far as clones go, I actually think the rebirthing into a clone body is faster. If I remember right I think Raidriar was reborn into his BUD body days after Siris defeated him, where it seems to take weeks if not months to be reborn by the Cruciform method.

[Dzylon]

I put up some comprehensive info here on a question/answer basis.

Sorry for my advertising, I try to only link when it's relevant to do so :P.

[synge32]

I put up some comprehensive info here on a question/answer basis.

Sorry for my advertising, I try to only link when it's relevant to do so :P.

Keep up the advertising for the Wiki page! The more IB the better. You got most of the dialogue up faster than I could imagine, great job!

I added a comment requesting some more lines be added. ( dont know If your still editing or not)

[Dzylon]

Keep up the advertising for the Wiki page! The more IB the better. You got most of the dialogue up faster than I could imagine, great job!

I added a comment requesting some more lines be added. ( dont know If your still editing or not)

Yep, I saw it (and I'm working on it). Thanks for the help, as always!

[=Silver=]

So, what is the difference between "true deathless" and "not so true one", "deathless" and "lesser deathless"?

Donald also told about "families" or "deathless dynasties"...

[Farfield]

Real deathless can reborn, and that "not so true one" cannot, even if they can live many many years.

[dagdamor1]

WAAAAIT waitwaitwaitwaitwait. HOUSES?

Are they Houses in the House Lannister and House Stark and House Tyrell sense from George R.R. Martin fiction sense? As in families and extended allies?

Or are they merely factions?

Because I thought that Deathless giving birth to children was either forbidden or extremely restricted.

[Dzylon]

WAAAAIT waitwaitwaitwaitwait. HOUSES?

Are they Houses in the House Lannister and House Stark and House Tyrell sense from George R.R. Martin fiction sense? As in families and extended allies?

Or are they merely factions?

Because I thought that Deathless giving birth to children was either forbidden or extremely restricted.

I doubt they're actual families. By "houses" I think he meant factions or coalitions.

[dagdamor1]

I doubt they're actual families. By "houses" I think he meant factions or coalitions.

Probably. That's what I'm leaning towards, however slightly.

Do you think the "corruption" that Raidriar was referring to was attributed to some degree towards the Ruling Four? Because the God-King certainly is not part of any House, from what we've seen and read.

[synge32]

Probably. That's what I'm leaning towards, however slightly.

Do you think the "corruption" that Raidriar was referring to was attributed to some degree towards the Ruling Four? Because the God-King certainly is not part of any House, from what we've seen and read.

Yes the "House's" were a very interesting revalation. Also the fact that Mustard seemed to imply that Raidriar, himself, had the Worker trapped and working for him,, very strange considering the fact that Raidriar seems to be a lone gun

I think a new thread is warranted.....

[Laygh]

Yeah it was a great podcast

[Infinitymaster]

Maybe he was just trying to hint us away from the actual storyline as we were getting too close to figuring it out!

[ElPared]

what I found most interesting was that Mustard said the story is based on our own history and our own mythologies. Maybe we should start a thread about some of this stuff so as not to clutter this one? Maybe something like the "One answer question" thread since there are so many things to talk about

[PedroCst]

I mean, if the WoS is Raidriar's friend why did he trap both Siris (who clearly wanted to free the world from the Deathless) and his friend Raidriar? Do you think WoS did it so Raidriar and Siris could clarify the stuff (like Raidriar is actually a good guy and Siris is the same thing too) instead of killing each other? I mean, they can't kill each other, and I guess Siris can't be killed because of the spirits, that passed from WoS to him when he put the IB in the container (or whatever that is).

[Infinitymaster]

Just realised, the archivist says "this place wil come crashing down, and the worker will die with it".
Well, if you imprisoned him because you couldnt kill him, then send the place crashing down! You just said that would kill him!
This wasn't that serious by the way, and probably isn't important.

[synge32]

I mean, if the WoS is Raidriar's friend why did he trap both Siris (who clearly wanted to free the world from the Deathless) and his friend Raidriar? Do you think WoS did it so Raidriar and Siris could clarify the stuff (like Raidriar is actually a good guy and Siris is the same thing too) instead of killing each other? I mean, they can't kill each other, and I guess Siris can't be killed because of the spirits, that passed from WoS to him when he put the IB in the container (or whatever that is).

I don't think Raidrair is trapped, at the end of the game, Siris' ankles and wrists are bound by blue lights ( shackles) and Raidrair's are not. Also, Mustard said that it is a souls cell that raps QIP. Nothing was done to trap Raidriar's QIP. He was just laying on the floor, and since he has already been in and out of the workers prison, he knows how to get his physical body out of the prison.

[synge32]

what I found most interesting was that Mustard said the story is based on our own history and our own mythologies. Maybe we should start a thread about some of this stuff so as not to clutter this one? Maybe something like the "One answer question" thread since there are so many things to talk about

I hear you, if you have a new thought just start a new thread, there isn't much else going on right now anyways, you know I will reply!

[Lazare]

Just some random theory of mine. From everything Mr. Mustard has said, it suggests that Raidriar had the WoS make him the new armor he wears. It's quite possible that being the jerk that he is, the Worker maybe built-in something in Raidriar's armor which he'd then use against him. It's an extremely vague thought but one that just popped into my head.

[synge32]

Just some random theory of mine. From everything Mr. Mustard has said, it suggests that Raidriar had the WoS make him the new armor he wears. It's quite possible that being the jerk that he is, the Worker maybe built-in something in Raidriar's armor which he'd then use against him. It's an extremely vague thought but one that just popped into my head.

I had thought that it was the other way around, with Raidrair giving the WoS the armor. Mustard says that Raidrair would likely be taking advice from the worker, seems to imply that the worker told him how to make the armor,

Maybe the " deal" was that he would tell Raidrair how to make it in return for a set for himself

Although if the item the worker holds in the beginning of the game is a form of transportation ring, maybe the other half was placed in Raidriars armor! Interesting....

[PedroCst]

I don't think Raidrair is trapped, at the end of the game, Siris' ankles and wrists are bound by blue lights ( shackles) and Raidrair's are not. Also, Mustard said that it is a souls cell that raps QIP. Nothing was done to trap Raidriar's QIP. He was just laying on the floor, and since he has already been in and out of the workers prison, he knows how to get his physical body out of the prison.

Yup. It seems to be okay. But, it's not certain what would Raidriar do. All the stuff was made to lure Ausar though (not Siris). Because, if Raidriar is a good one, and if Siris is trapped there, Raidriar won't be able to kill Siris, neither for the cloud or permanently, and neither Siris can kill Raidriar permanently, so that moment could be a moment when Siris and Raidriar would actually talk instead of fighting.

I had thought that it was the other way around, with Raidrair giving the WoS the armor. Mustard says that Raidrair would likely be taking advice from the worker, seems to imply that the worker told him how to make the armor,

Maybe the " deal" was that he would tell Raidrair how to make it in return for a set for himself

Although if the item the worker holds in the beginning of the game is a form of transportation ring, maybe the other half was placed in Raidriars armor! Interesting....

That item was used to permanently kill Thane (and would be used to kill Siris if the WoS didn't need him to be free). The fact that WoS didn't kill Raidriar also shows some sort of mercy - but we already know it's not what's happening.

[Squashy]

Although if the item the worker holds in the beginning of the game is a form of transportation ring, maybe the other half was placed in Raidriars armor! Interesting....

Oh yeah! I totally forgot the teleportation disks thing in IB:Awakening! This might actually be a crucial plot device.

[dagdamor1]

If these guys have been working up and thinking up this game series for 10+ years before Chair even came into being...

That means Infinity Blade is basically the "Inception" of iOS games.

I'm pretty k with that.

[ElPared]

If these guys have been working up and thinking up this game series for 10+ years before Chair even came into being...

That means Infinity Blade is basically the "Inception" of iOS games.

I'm pretty k with that.

more like the Avatar of iOS games. Unless it turns out the storyline is a dream within a dream within another dream and Ausar used the dreams to try and steal Raidriar's secrets from his brain, but then got his memory wiped somehow while still dreaming and now Siris is trying to do the same thing without knowing. But then he screws it up by letting the Worker of Secrets escape, when the WoS is actually the subconscious projection of the secrets Ausar was trying to steal from Raidriar in the first place. (wouldn't it be weird if this turned out to be the actual story? and kind of disappointing too?)

[PedroCst]

more like the Avatar of iOS games. Unless it turns out the storyline is a dream within a dream within another dream and Ausar used the dreams to try and steal Raidriar's secrets from his brain, but then got his memory wiped somehow while still dreaming and now Siris is trying to do the same thing without knowing. But then he screws it up by letting the Worker of Secrets escape, when the WoS is actually the subconscious projection of the secrets Ausar was trying to steal from Raidriar in the first place. (wouldn't it be weird if this turned out to be the actual story? and kind of disappointing too?)

laaaaaame!

[dagdamor1]

more like the Avatar of iOS games. Unless it turns out the storyline is a dream within a dream within another dream and Ausar used the dreams to try and steal Raidriar's secrets from his brain, but then got his memory wiped somehow while still dreaming and now Siris is trying to do the same thing without knowing. But then he screws it up by letting the Worker of Secrets escape, when the WoS is actually the subconscious projection of the secrets Ausar was trying to steal from Raidriar in the first place. (wouldn't it be weird if this turned out to be the actual story? and kind of disappointing too?)

Not the actual plot, more along the lines that both the creators of Inception and the Infinity Blade series have had the concepts and outlines brewing and piecing together over the course of many years, refining and building up to the finished product, which, due to all that effort, hits the associated market with the force of a tidal wave.

[ElPared]

Except Inception was basically ripped off from an old Ducktales comic. Not that Avatar was original either

my point being Infinity Blade seems to take its story ideas from multiple different sources (where Avatar was Pocahontas with blue rabbits and Inception was Ducktales with people)