killing each other needs to be fixed

[notagain1989]

I think they should look Into fixing were two people die the same time. (updating each other)

[LoD FENIX]

It's a side effect of CSHD and is for the better.

It can be annoying but the game would be worse without it.

[TAO Devil]

As Fenix said. Its a side effect of CSHD. It cannot be removed, nor should it.

[MartyredMessiah]

It's the same as any concept in conflict, you need to practice hitting without being hit.

An example would be sword play: successfully striking your opponent will not necessary stop them striking you if you have not cut off the line.
Obviously guns make this a little difficult because you can't "cut off lines" but that's what cover is for.

[AndJusticeForMe]

I rather enjoy it. I like it when we kill each other but I get a headshot.

[Viewing the hue]

I think they should.look Intl fixing were two people die the same time.

I Think it makes the game more realistic and fun. Why shouldn't you die if I blast you in the face at the same time?

[upsmadman]

Whaaaat?????? Give up killing people while dbno. I agree with dedicated servers the update really no longer is necessary. There isn't the lag there that was present in gears 2 which this was implemented for.

[Q Dude 87]

yea its annoying they should just pick a person who randomly wins that ive killed and gotten kills like that once every single game

[upsmadman]

The problem is we aren't blasting each other in the face at the same time. Somebody always shoots first end of story. Like i said epic implemented this in what tu6 or maybe 5 for gears 2. To help fix their lagfest. Lag is no longer a problem. A server should be able to determine the real winner every time. Gears 1 wasnt to laggy (mostly do to being able to choose ur connection) it played fine without the update. The update is a lag compensator and shouldnt be present in a virtually lag free game.

[upsmadman]

U enjoy headshotting some noob walking around with his chainsaw out only to be updated by his chainsaw. I think that kind of stuff is bull crap. Either i shot his head off his shoulders or he cut me before i shot him end of story. This everyone is a winner crap is for the birds lol. Thanks for the certificate of participation. Lol

ON A SIDE NOTE HERE MY QUOTE REPLY SEEMS TO BE NOT WORKING. ANYONE ELSE??????

[MartyredMessiah]

The problem is we aren't blasting each other in the face at the same time. Somebody always shoots first end of story.

Not end of story, just because you've shot someone doesn’t mean they haven't shot you, yes you may have pulled the trigger first but that doesn’t cut off their line so you better hope you’ve stopped their trigger finger.
Even if you one hit kill the person there is a possibility the muscles will still tense up and shoot you.

Of course we'd need someone with a background in medical science to give us the run down of situations in which the muscles would still tense around the trigger as you die but it’s a safer assumption that “first to hit” doesn’t assure safety.

[upsmadman]

not end of story, just because you've shot someone doesn’t mean they haven't shot you, yes you may have pulled the trigger first but that doesn’t cut off their line so you better hope you’ve stopped their trigger finger.
Even if you one hit kill the person there is a possibility the muscles will still tense up and shoot you.

Of course we'd need someone with a background in medical science to give us the run down of situations in which the muscles would still tense around the trigger as you die but it’s a safer assumption that “first to hit” doesn’t assure safety.

so u support my theory then that i get updated by a dead guy. How bout we just say when i killed him he dropped the gun and it went off and killed me.

BOTTOM LINE IS ITS A VIDEO GAME NOT REAL LIFE. AS FAR AS THIS GAME GOES IT ISNT EVEN A REALALISTIC GAME LIKE COD OR SOMETHING. THEY ARE ALIENS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. I UNDERSTAND UPDATES AT LONGER RANGES BUT POINT BLANK.

IM NOT GOING TO ARGUE BOUT SOMETHING I DONT REALLY CARE BOUT. SINCE BEING ON DEDI SERVERS ID DOESNT EVEN HAPPEN THAT MUCH ANYMORE

[xTZAx]

Online gaming isn't perfect. If you want a more precise gaming experience then either play on LAN or play the campaign.

[upsmadman]

online gaming isn't perfect. If you want a more precise gaming experience then either play on lan or play the campaign.

unfortunately believe it or not the update even happens on lan.

[DenyThisFlesh]

I have no problem with trading kills except when the delay is really long. There have been times where I killed a guy and started walking away before dying. That shouldn't happen. The window for trading is too large right now. It should still be possible, but the time frame needs to be shorter. If the kill shots are more than a half second apart according to the server, then the one that came second should be negated IMO.

[RoboSeal1]

It wont be removed but i agree it should be improved, so many times there should be an update but im the only one that dies

[kid_below_-0]

i hate updates their so unreal whats the odds really that your shooting simultaneously and when you update yoy can clearly hear whos shot came first

[kid_below_-0]

Not end of story, just because you've shot someone doesn’t mean they haven't shot you, yes you may have pulled the trigger first but that doesn’t cut off their line so you better hope you’ve stopped their trigger finger.
Even if you one hit kill the person there is a possibility the muscles will still tense up and shoot you.

Of course we'd need someone with a background in medical science to give us the run down of situations in which the muscles would still tense around the trigger as you die but it’s a safer assumption that “first to hit” doesn’t assure safety.

whats the odds of that happening really

[LoD FENIX]

so u support my theory then that i get updated by a dead guy. How bout we just say when i killed him he dropped the gun and it went off and killed me.

BOTTOM LINE IS ITS A VIDEO GAME NOT REAL LIFE. AS FAR AS THIS GAME GOES IT ISNT EVEN A REALALISTIC GAME LIKE COD OR SOMETHING. THEY ARE ALIENS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. I UNDERSTAND UPDATES AT LONGER RANGES BUT POINT BLANK.

IM NOT GOING TO ARGUE BOUT SOMETHING I DONT REALLY CARE BOUT. SINCE BEING ON DEDI SERVERS ID DOESNT EVEN HAPPEN THAT MUCH ANYMORE

Haha. CoD? Realistic? Too easy.

Also the Locust are not aliens, they have lived underneath Sera for years.

There is no way to tell who really shot first, CSHD registers both shots going off and it can result in a kill trade. It may look dumb at times but just because someone was taken out doesn't mean his/her shot before death is eliminated from existence.

[Sanecow]

Seriously, if you don't have the faintest understanding of network latency, please do not attempt to discuss the topic.

[Demonz II]

That came into effect with TU6 on Gears 2 and it isnt going anywhere.

[Locust BarmyArmy]

yea its annoying they should just pick a person who randomly wins that ive killed and gotten kills like that once every single game

How is this fair, or even makes sense?

I'd rather trade kills than be the only one that dies. Like people above have said, it happens if you use CSHD.