Previous Horde Playlists from Day 1

[Timmzy27]

Are you like me and a big horde player? Yes? Then GoW J should have "Horde 1.0"/"Classic Horde" and GoW3's "Standard" horde as well as the horde that Judgement comes with and all the new stuff that goes along with it.

Why you ask, I played a lot of horde from GoW2 and IMO nothing has beaten it since (Not even Gears 3 horde). I would play Gears 2's horde online still but finding a match in Ranked is 99.99% improbable and Social is not much better, This is why GoWJ should have "Classic Horde" from GoW2 and "Standard" horde from GoW3 (unless horde for Judgement is GoW3's horde just slightly better) so people like me can play what they want WITHOUT waiting hours to find a match.

So the potential playlist from Day 1 could be:

- Classic (For more info on Classic Horde, visit this Thread)
- GoW3 Horde (Renamed better, maybe horde 2.0?)
- Judgement Horde
- Space for event weekend horde (So it doesn't replace regular horde)
- ADDED DLC Horde (For when/if the game gets new maps)


Even if Classic horde doesn't get its own playlist, it should at least occupy the weekend event slot during the week till they have to remove it for the weekend event. Also, "GoW3 Horde" should only be there if nothing has changed dramatically enough in the new horde to consider it New/Different enough for it to have its own playlist.

[Carlos Fenix]

I think this is a GREAT Idea. But do you think Epic would really do that? I mean the Horde community is stong but do you think there's enough players for 3 different modes of Horde? Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, but I really don't think Epic will do this just because of the competitive community being much larger.

[Time Victim]

Splitting the Horde community three ways would be a mistake.

[Alliance]

Gears 2 had Horde playlist, Horde on map packs, and social Horde and it did pretty dang good as far as population.

[TAO Devil]

Horde has not even been confirmed to be returning.

How about we wait and hear the announcements before jumping the gun on separate playlists?

[Alliance]

Horde on Gears 3 has Horde playlist, which is pretty much just everybody all grouped together whether you have the new maps or not. So if one person doesn't have the maps you are going to be stuck playing the old maps. Thus far playing with randoms there are over a half dozen maps i've never played on xbox live, which kinda takes the fun out of it. Seems kinda like a giant fail as far as putting people together.

[Timmzy27]

I think this is a GREAT Idea. But do you think Epic would really do that? I mean the Horde community is stong but do you think there's enough players for 3 different modes of Horde? Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, but I really don't think Epic will do this just because of the competitive community being much larger.

Yes I do believe it is strong enough because of the quote below

Gears 2 had Horde playlist, Horde on map packs, and social Horde and it did pretty dang good as far as population.

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Splitting the Horde community three ways would be a mistake.

I don't believe so, I often get frustrated on not being able to play the FoN or even FR maps because everyone is in one pool of horde including the people who don't have the maps so playing the maps I have paid for is really rare.

Horde has not even been confirmed to be returning.

How about we wait and hear the announcements before jumping the gun on separate playlists?

Your right TAO, but I made this now so EPIC have enough time to hopefully read this and do something about it because everyone in the same playlist is a mistake if you ask me.

Horde on Gears 3 has Horde playlist, which is pretty much just everybody all grouped together whether you have the new maps or not. So if one person doesn't have the maps you are going to be stuck playing the old maps. Thus far playing with randoms there are over a half dozen maps i've never played on xbox live, which kinda takes the fun out of it. Seems kinda like a giant fail as far as putting people together.

I agree with this ^^^ because I played Gears 2 horde which had as you say more than ONE horde playlist and worked just fine till gears 3 came out and made it a ghost town so what I would like for GoWJ is just a classic playlist from day 1 otherwise I'm stuck to playing private horde still to try and replicate classic horde as closely as I can.

[DaRkNeSs]

Splitting the Horde community three ways would be a mistake.

I don't think it would - OverRun caters more to Beast Mode players as there's no waves of enemies as such and no repairing fortifications (it's more like a Beast 2.0). I doubt we'd see a Horde 3.0 either, seeing as EPIC are limited with the current engine and will probably wait to do something big for Horde with UE4.

With Horde 1.0 and Horde 2.0, I wouldn't even say you're splitting the community 50/50. Horde 1.0 would probably only cater to 25% of Horde players as Horde 2.0 would likely be more suited to GoWJ maps. I doubt it would be an issue, and would simply add variety and fun to the game

[HRPac]

I'd support two versions of horde (classic horde aka GoW2 version, and the new version 2.1 or 3.0) but nothing more. I highly doubt that horde will be significantly different in GoW:J than it was in GoW3.

[Timmzy27]

I'd support two versions of horde (classic horde aka GoW2 version, and the new version 2.1 or 3.0) but nothing more. I highly doubt that horde will be significantly different in GoW:J than it was in GoW3.

Yeah, I had suspicions about that in the same way. GoW:J horde can't be that different to GoW3 horde so maybe it will be the same and the playlists will be:

- Classic Horde
- Judgement Horde
- Weekend Event Horde

[Clone Recon]

i love classic horde. I think its much better than the horde we have now. thats just my opinion.

[BLACKOUT in HDV]

Horde has not even been confirmed to be returning.

How about we wait and hear the announcements before jumping the gun on separate playlists?

I guess you may write this in every topic posted about something returning I.E. weapons skins topic. Who knows if their returning right? SMH.

Im hoping for a more classic mode. I don't mind the fortification mode but its not nearly as exciting as horde 1.0

[Timmzy27]

i love classic horde. I think its much better than the horde we have now. thats just my opinion.

Yeah, Lets just hope EPIC implement it in from Day 1.

[RoboSeal1]

sad how everyone has the same threads hoping Judgment will deliver what Gears 3 couldnt lol

I DO AGREE it would be nice to have all those options, and though it hasnt been announced yet, HORDE WILL BE BACK, epic doesnt want another outcry of guardian, imo more players play horde than guardian the complaint threads would be double

[BLACKOUT in HDV]

sad how everyone has the same threads hoping Judgment will deliver what Gears 3 couldnt lol

I DO AGREE it would be nice to have all those options, and though it hasnt been announced yet, HORDE WILL BE BACK, epic doesnt want another outcry of guardian, imo more players play horde than guardian the complaint threads would be double

Gears 3 delivered a lot of good. More good than bad IMO. I mean ya the horde 2.0 isn't that exciting but with the exception of the cash system and stupid cha ching noise its much smoother than horde 1.0 in terms of connection and graphics and gameplay.

I wouldloveto see a horde 1.0 return but with random waves and the ability to plant shields in between rounds without them dissappearing.

Oh and if they do just up grade horde 2.0 at least give us an option in between rounds to skip to the next round or say press X when we are done fortifying so if were done early we dony have to wait the full 30 seconds

[Timmzy27]

sad how everyone has the same threads hoping Judgment will deliver what Gears 3 couldnt lol

I DO AGREE it would be nice to have all those options, and though it hasnt been announced yet, HORDE WILL BE BACK, epic doesnt want another outcry of guardian, imo more players play horde than guardian the complaint threads would be double

Agreed, I rarely play public horde anymore, I mainly play private horde to try and play as close to classic horde as I can with a few friends but that quickly fails as lambent popup to ruin it.

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Gears 3 delivered a lot of good. More good than bad IMO. I mean ya the horde 2.0 isn't that exciting but with the exception of the cash system and stupid cha ching noise its much smoother than horde 1.0 in terms of connection and graphics and gameplay.

I would love to see a horde 1.0 return but with random waves and the ability to plant shields in between rounds without them dissappearing.

Oh and if they do just up grade horde 2.0 at least give us an option in between rounds to skip to the next round or say press X when we are done fortifying so if were done early we dony have to wait the full 30 seconds

Yeah the main drag for 2.0 was the 30 seconds and not being able to change it, I quite often just stand still for 30 seconds and get a drink or check my twitter feed while I wait. What kind of game makes you do that? I don't want to check my twitter feed between waves but its better than spending my cash on camping in a corner or buying a god damn silverback.

[RoboSeal1]

Same here, I get something to eat or check text messages or refresh forums page on between waves, all I spend my money on is ammo

[RoboSeal1]

Also add to OP

Make the scoring the way it was in gears 2
If I kick ass and consistently spend money why am I in last place? Lol
The guy who doin nothing but saves all money shouldn't be first place on scoreboard, it should go back to horde gears 2, top killer and point getter through all waves gets top total score not just who has the current most currency

[Terra D Serph]

Your right TAO, but I made this now so EPIC have enough time to hopefully read this and do something about it because everyone in the same playlist is a mistake if you ask me.

Epic will not look at this thread, think "we messed up," and change it. Like it or not, you're way late to the ballgame. If Horde is even announced for Judgement, there may be a few changes, additions of boss waves, etc etc, but they're most likely already done with the horde aspect of the game. At this late in the development process, they're testing, polishing, fixing, and testing some more on the game. They aren't creating new things, nor are they taking suggestions at this time.

Besides, Horde 2.0 is the exact damn same thing as Horde. If you really want a "Classic Horde" experience, just don't play the game with the fortifications. You get a free 30 seconds to calm down, and the money you'll spend on ammo or pick-ups is nothing, so you can't complain about that. It's that simple. Adding a second playlist to split up the community would be pointless, as most hardcore Horders(the ones who would be willing to play without any fortifications with all hard mutators on Insane) are going to play private matches anyways, not ranked.

Sorry if I sounded a bit rude.

[Dan Ace X]

Of course, but we'd eventually need a DLC playlist. I also don't see GOWJ's Horde being drastically different than GOW3's, so I'd just keep GOWJ's. IMO:

GOWJ Horde (/w Events) - Ranked/Social
Classic Horde - Social
Horde on Map Packs - Ranked/Social

[RoboSeal1]

Of course, but we'd eventually need a DLC playlist. I also don't see GOWJ's Horde being drastically different than GOW3's, so I'd just keep GOWJ's. IMO:

GOWJ Horde (/w Events) - Ranked/Social
Classic Horde - Social
Horde on Map Packs - Ranked/Social

Gow2 was perfect for playlist, if u didn't have DLC u were forced to play ranked

[Dan Ace X]

Gow2 was perfect for playlist, if u didn't have DLC u were forced to play ranked

Exactly. Gears 2 Social Horde was all I played for probably a year on end. No other games, nothing. 93 days played in total on Gears 2.

[BLACKOUT in HDV]

Besides, Horde 2.0 is the exact damn same thing as Horde. If you really want a "Classic Horde" experience, just don't play the game with the fortifications. You get a free 30 seconds to calm down, and the money you'll spend on ammo or pick-ups is nothing, so you can't complain about that. It's that simple. Adding a second playlist to split up the community would be pointless, as most hardcore Horders(the ones who would be willing to play without any fortifications with all hard mutators on Insane) are going to play private matches anyways, not ranked.

Sorry if I sounded a bit rude.

there is nothing wrong with options and a having more and accommodating different crowds is a good thing. I dont want 30 seconds a round to "calm down" thx tho :/

horde 2.0 is not the exact same thing as horde 1.0. It is not splitting the community either.Its just giving options. I used to have 20 hardcore horders on my FL and their all gone now. they hate horde 2.0 and dont play gears anymore. That there is worse than splitting the community.

[Timmzy27]

Epic will not look at this thread, think "we messed up," and change it. Like it or not, you're way late to the ballgame. If Horde is even announced for Judgement, there may be a few changes, additions of boss waves, etc etc, but they're most likely already done with the horde aspect of the game. At this late in the development process, they're testing, polishing, fixing, and testing some more on the game. They aren't creating new things, nor are they taking suggestions at this time.

Besides, Horde 2.0 is the exact damn same thing as Horde. If you really want a "Classic Horde" experience, just don't play the game with the fortifications. You get a free 30 seconds to calm down, and the money you'll spend on ammo or pick-ups is nothing, so you can't complain about that. It's that simple. Adding a second playlist to split up the community would be pointless, as most hardcore Horders(the ones who would be willing to play without any fortifications with all hard mutators on Insane) are going to play private matches anyways, not ranked.

Sorry if I sounded a bit rude.

Exactly, If they have already done it, then adding a playlist to the MENU which removes stuff rather than adds stuff then I dont think adding Classic horde is that hard especially seen as GoW3 has a classic horde variant (Which needs some tweaks) already which they could put in place any weekend they want.

[Terra D Serph]

there is nothing wrong with options and a having more and accommodating different crowds is a good thing. I dont want 30 seconds a round to "calm down" thx tho :/

horde 2.0 is not the exact same thing as horde 1.0. It is not splitting the community either.Its just giving options. I used to have 20 hardcore horders on my FL and their all gone now. they hate horde 2.0 and dont play gears anymore. That there is worse than splitting the community.

Doesn't matter if you don't want a 30 seconds to "calm down," you get it anyways. Deal with it or play Gears 2 Horde.

Horde 2.0 is the exact same thing. I don't see what you think is different, other than there's no sires, there's a ton of new monsters, and there's boss waves. What's so wrong about that?

I don't think you understand the term "splitting." If you take a playlist and split it into two categories, there's going to be a slit in the community. It doesn't always carry that negative connotation you may be thinking about, but it splits the community nonetheless. Some people will play Online "Classic," some will play Online 2.0, and some will play Private. While the horde community is by no means small(heck, I think they might even be bigger than the whiny versus community as a whole), splitting up groups by creating a variant that you could easily implement yourselves is pointless.

[BLACKOUT in HDV]

Doesn't matter if you don't want a 30 seconds to "calm down," you get it anyways. Deal with it or play Gears 2 Horde.

Horde 2.0 is the exact same thing. I don't see what you think is different, other than there's no sires, there's a ton of new monsters, and there's boss waves. What's so wrong about that?

I don't think you understand the term "splitting." If you take a playlist and split it into two categories, there's going to be a slit in the community. It doesn't always carry that negative connotation you may be thinking about, but it splits the community nonetheless. Some people will play Online "Classic," some will play Online 2.0, and some will play Private. While the horde community is by no means small(heck, I think they might even be bigger than the whiny versus community as a whole), splitting up groups by creating a variant that you could easily implement yourselves is pointless.

I still disagree and I understand FULLY what your idea of the splitting the community means but giving options to the community this isn't splitting them. Its giving them more variety. With your idea what they really should do with MM then is cut every game type back and just force us to play TDM....sounds like a great idea

no I think not..

Give people variety choices what they want to play in a day or in a game. Having one option to play a game one way is just plain boring. In MM I play KOTH most of the time. I getboredof that and have many options to play something else. I used to play nothing BUT horde in gears 2. If I had the options in gears 3 to play it a different way id still be playing horde all the time along with the people on my FL that dont play gears anymore.

Doesn't matter if you don't want a 30 seconds to "calm down," you get it anyways. Deal with it or play Gears 2 Horde.

I've obviously dealt with it since I play it here and there. If I wanted an ignorant response I'd look for someone with more of a "devil" attitude You seem like you can hold decent arguments and place your ideas well. Dont ruin these good things with ignorant responses.

[TG47]

Gow2 was perfect for playlist, if u didn't have DLC u were forced to play ranked

Maybe I'm a hopeless optimist, but I still think there's a chance Epic will implement a DLC Horde playlist (and perhaps social Horde) for Gears 3. The reason is Epic does not say no. For other issues, like counting Horde kills toward medals, Epic publicly states they have no plans to do that. But Epic is silent on DLC/Social Horde. Better than silent, once @PeteNub tweeted that he was trying to figure out a good way to implement a DLC Horde playlist. I wish Epic would do it right now but maybe they're going to push out new content (including DLC/Social Horde) on the one year anniversary in September.

[BLACKOUT in HDV]

Maybe I'm a hopeless optimist, but I still think there's a chance Epic will implement a DLC Horde playlist (and perhaps social Horde) for Gears 3. The reason is Epic does not say no. For other issues, like counting Horde kills toward medals, Epic publicly states they have no plans to do that. But Epic is silent on DLC/Social Horde. Better than silent, once @PeteNub tweeted that he was trying to figure out a good way to implement a DLC Horde playlist. I wish Epic would do it right now but maybe they're going to push out new content (including DLC/Social Horde) on the one year anniversary in September.

Im in big favor of a DLC horde list. off topic how ever

[Timmzy27]

Better than silent, once @PeteNub tweeted that he was trying to figure out a good way to implement a DLC Horde playlist. I wish Epic would do it right now but maybe they're going to push out new content (including DLC/Social Horde) on the one year anniversary in September.

They NEED to put in the DLC playlist now but everything else can wait till September (Horde wise). I'm sick of paying for new maps and then the voting options are:

- Mercy
- Overpass
- Sandbar

The 3 maps on Gears 3 I will not play at all to the point of where I will dashboard straight away if chosen, that is how much I hate them. I paid for Jacinto, I wanna PLAY Jacinto.

[Masteralex09]

They NEED to put in the DLC playlist now but everything else can wait till September (Horde wise). I'm sick of paying for new maps and then the voting options are:

- Mercy
- Overpass
- Sandbar

The 3 maps on Gears 3 I will not play at all to the point of where I will dashboard straight away if chosen, that is how much I hate them. I paid for Jacinto, I wanna PLAY Jacinto.

The only time I am able to play jacinto is in G2.

[Jim Tuna]

I would support this as long as there ate no achievements tied to playing classic horde.

[Predalian5]

Horde has not even been confirmed to be returning.

How about we wait and hear the announcements before jumping the gun on separate playlists?

I would suspect as YOU being an Epic Gamer you wouldn't confirm anything even if you
Knew something.

[Timmzy27]

The only time I am able to play jacinto is in G2.

You can still get matches on G2? Wow, envy that.

I would support this as long as there ate no achievements tied to playing classic horde.

Yeah, even if there is, it will only be a generic "Complete waves 1 - 50" achievement.

[Gorgon Freeman]

no, if you want classic horde dont buy fortifications. its a waste of space on the disc to add something you can already do.

[Timmzy27]

no, if you want classic horde dont buy fortifications. Its a waste of space on the disc to add something you can already do.

Incorrect, You can not play classic horde in GoW3 due to lambent, new weapons and the fact you would have to play alone (maybe with 1 or 2 friends) and not have the full 5 as people online WILL ALWAYS buy fortifications.

Also a Classic horde playlist would not take any room on the disc, only the option in the menu that says "Classic Horde" but that would only take a few KB if that. To get classic horde, all EPIC have to do is make a variant that is like Gears 2 horde enemies/fortifications wise and not actually ADD anything so memory is not an issue for the disc.

[bison187]

I must be one of those rare people that was utterly disappointed with Gears 3 Horde 2.0 mode. I was looking forward to it being just like Horde from Gears 2 w/o major tweaks, only minor ones as necessary, but the money system just didn't add any value to me especially when there was nowhere to hide with big enemies mantle kicking you to death.

I'm kind of over Horde now because of it, sadly :-\

[DaZ3dNc0nFuZ3D]

I used to think the gnasher wasn't really a horde weapon but after continued experimentation and practise I've come to the conclusion that it's prob one if the best weapons to hav on your person. 3 and 4 shot active reload kills on grinders and boomers. One and 2 shot kills on drones, therons etc, awesome!

[Viewing the hue]

I agree classic Horde was better. I don't like the idea of splitting the community up so thin though. Maybe just more Horde weekend events though.

[BLACKOUT in HDV]

I must be one of those rare people that was utterly disappointed with Gears 3 Horde 2.0 mode. I was looking forward to it being just like Horde from Gears 2 w/o major tweaks, only minor ones as necessary, but the money system just didn't add any value to me especially when there was nowhere to hide with big enemies mantle kicking you to death.

I'm kind of over Horde now because of it, sadly :-\

nah your not the only one. I hate the horde 2.0.Im fine with lambent and stuff you need new enemies but why break something that wasn't broken?? The cash system is awful and Im really hoping they add in a button like COD's survival mode that lets you bypass the timer if the team is ready.

[BLACKOUT in HDV]

I agree classic Horde was better. I don't like the idea of splitting the community up so thin though. Maybe just more Horde weekend events though.

There is no such thing as splitting up the community. Look at MP. one could say they are split up because of all the different game types. Just consider "classic horde" as a different game type under the horde category.

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