Seriously 4.0. Don't deny it, you know it's going to happen.

[HVAC Techie]

I really don't know if there's any use speculating whether we'll get an insane achievement in the line of Seriously... mind you, a lot of achievements in GOW3 fell under 'insane'... but is there any point denying or even questioning that they'll toss another Seriously achievement at us?

The only question is... exactly how mean could the next generation of Seriously be? Seriously was 10K kills, Seriously 2.0 was 100K, and 3.0 was 65 Insane Onyx Medals and Level 100. So 4.0... I think it'll be a button masher achievement, for sure.

My one worry is that the next game will incorporate re-ups into the achievements, and possibly 4.0, if that's the name they'll use for it. I'm not sure if re-ups for Judgement have been confirmed yet, but I'd be very surprised if there aren't any. I believe in GOW3 people got Level 100 within 2 weeks of release?

I guess we'll just have to wait and see if they both toss one at us and if they do, exactly how crazy it'll be. Any speculation?

Edit: I realized I didn't really say very well what I wanted Seriously '4.0' to be, so here's what I think it should be: Earning all achievements in Gears of War 1, 2, and 3; and then all the 'base' (non-DLC) achievements in Gears of War: Judgement. Sort of a "You've done it all!" kind of achievement.

[GearsCat]

Re ups are boring, I would want them to scrap it.Just have 100 levels.

[I Love U Jesus]

There's no use speculating, but I don't want another achievement like Seriously 3.0. I want the "Seriously" achievements to go back to their roots. Maybe, 50,000 ranked kills total? Something that takes dedication and some skill but not something that just shows how much of your precious life you're willing to waste on the game.

[Master Roshi]

Re ups are boring, I would want them to scrap it.Just have 100 levels.

Remove levels completely, show your Matchmaking Rank as an image like pre-TU3 Gears 2. But obviously better.

Ranks are boring. It's just a number and it proves nothing. Showing your MM rank would show TrueSkill rather than who played the longest.

[Josh26]

I'm sure it will be something like "amass a total 5,000,000,000 minutes played"

[The Dixie Kid]

Unlike the one-sided mess that was Seriously 3.0 I'd like to whichever iteration of Seriously they come up to actually encompass the game as a whole.

As much as I enjoy the multiplayer aspect of Gears playing it exclusively for hours on end shows no more dedication than favoring any other mode of the game.

I'd also like to see Epic and People Can Fly come up with something creative and eliminate the grind as playing the same thing over and over be it a wave of Horde or Beast or a story mode chapter hundreds if not thousands of time does not show dedication either.

[D4u2s0t]

Achieve the first 3 seriously's, get 1 million kills, your first born son, and you have to make one of cliff's car payments... then you can have the seriously 4.0 medal.

[Ant Heuser]

S4.0-- Play Gears of War: Judgment, x amount x played-- Whatever! As long as you can achieve it offline-- And I don't mean 'Private'.

[tootybananas]

i'd like epic to keep it simple and make it 1,000,000 kills in Mp.

[Ant Heuser]

i'd like epic to keep it simple and make it 1,000,000 kills in Mp.

As long as 'System Link' counts as 'MP'.

[tootybananas]

As long as 'System Link' counts as 'MP'.

Yeah i wouldn't mind.
I just want an achievement that makes people play the game and doesn't promote bad game play or crazy boosting.

[HVAC Techie]

S4.0-- Play Gears of War: Judgment, x amount x played-- Whatever! As long as you can achieve it offline-- And I don't mean 'Private'.

Yeah I got a bunch of my still-unfinished Seriously 3.0 offline, been accused of hacking a bunch of times. So long as the online is achieved online, it's obvious I'm not, though, which is nice. But yeah they're a bit too crazy with multiplayer. I'm not sure how much I like what they're doing with things in Judgement, but it'll still be fun, I'm sure. And this time around we'll probably have like 5 campaign achievements and the rest multiplayer. T.T

[Untitled One]

They already have it in all the other games. It's almost a given if you ask me. Hopefully it's something reasonable though, and not like Gears 3.

[Master Roshi]

As long as 'System Link' counts as 'MP'.

EPIC shouldn't, and won't, make an achievement that's catered to your needs. You should be spending money to put a constant roof over your head and not wasting it on video games you play at a friends house anyway.

[Ant Heuser]

EPIC shouldn't, and won't, make an achievement that's catered to your needs. You should be spending money to put a constant roof over your head and not wasting it on video games you play at a friends house anyway.

LMAO! And they should be catered to your needs-- Next! I have a roof over my head and everything I need to get on XBL, Xbox, Game, Internet, XBL Gold and internet connection. I fail to see your point? Just because you're so "hardcore" doesn't mean people who play offline aren't just as good... Get over yourself. Like I said, I paid $60 for my game I should be able to get all my achievements offline. Show me where XBL is a requirement?

[>I Am Legend<]

It has to be fair and not "play 1 million wingman games" lol, i say it should have to do with weapon kills and kills in general, like get 50,000 starter weapon kills and 15,000 power weapon kills. Nothing should be made achieveable in private, seriously 3.0 is a joke because of that, boosting fest lol.

[Ant Heuser]

It has to be fair and not "play 1 million wingman games" lol, i say it should have to do with weapon kills and kills in general, like get 50,000 starter weapon kills and 15,000 power weapon kills. Nothing should be made achieveable in private, seriously 3.0 is a joke because of that, boosting fest lol.

Private and offline aren't the same thing-- lets just make that clear for the sake of argument, If I want to play pvt, but I have gold okay.., but if I have no XBL subscription I have no choice.

[Master Roshi]

LMAO! And they should be catered to your needs-- Next! I have a roof over my head and everything I need to get on XBL, Xbox, Game, Internet, XBL Gold and internet connection. I fail to see your point? Just because you're so "hardcore" doesn't mean people who play offline aren't just as good... Get over yourself. Like I said, I paid $60 for my game I should be able to get all my achievements offline. Show me where XBL is a requirement?

Don't get jumpity with me. You're the guy who goes off about how he's homeless and how Epic shouldn't do certain things because you wouldn't be able to obtain them. What, you expect a sympathy card? Don't blow up at me for not feeling sympathetic. If you're really homeless why are you buying video games?

I never said anything about being "hardcore". I never said they should be catered to my needs and I have nothing to get over.

You're so selfish and self-absorbed it sickens me.

[Ant Heuser]

Don't get jumpity with me. You're the guy who goes off about how he's homeless and how Epic shouldn't do certain things because you wouldn't be able to obtain them. What, you expect a sympathy card? Don't blow up at me for not feeling sympathetic. If you're really homeless why are you buying video games?

I never said anything about being "hardcore". I never said they should be catered to my needs and I have nothing to get over.

You're so selfish and self-absorbed it sickens me.

I never said I was 'homeless'-- That was never part of my argument. So get the story straight. I have XBL, I have no problem with playing online or buying games, I'm not arguing because of the situation I'm in-- I guess that never dawned on you.

Jumipity, don't make me laugh-- Your only argument is people will boost and offline gamers aren't "hardcore" enough. Please, have a better reason. What do offline achievements have to do with you anyway, bragging rights? I paid for my game just like you, and if I CHOOSE to get them offline that should be an option. Evey body who is homeless isn't a gamer, and every gamer who doesn't have XBL isn't homeless... Your point of view is clearly pathetic-- You want an achievement for you "hardcore gamers" brag about them on XBL-- Not about XBL only.

[D4u2s0t]

I have said in other posts, I don't mind if kills/achievments are done in private, but I think to keep it fair it should use the same mutator system that horde uses... Meaning, you want to play on casual with 3 easy mutators, you're getting alot less than those that are playing insane with 3 hard mutators. As it is now, it's not a level playing field. The multipliers are already in place, just add the other stats to that multiplier. Just seems like an all around fair way to keep everyone happy, and reward those that play private on higher difficulties.

[J4mes]

As if 3.0 wasnt enough of a grind

[omfghowfake]

Seeing how the games isn't called "Gears of War 4" I doubt they would call it that.

[HVAC Techie]

Seeing how the games isn't called "Gears of War 4" I doubt they would call it that.

Fine. "Serious Judgement of Nolifeness" for 150G. HAPPY?!

[xICooRsYIx]

There's no use speculating, but I don't want another achievement like Seriously 3.0. I want the "Seriously" achievements to go back to their roots. Maybe, 50,000 ranked kills total? Something that takes dedication and some skill but not something that just shows how much of your precious life you're willing to waste on the game.

so your saying 50k kills online wouldnt be a waste of someones precious life? I can honestly admit to having 0 social life when gears 1 came out. And i only got 13k kills...

-xICooRsYIx

[dude527]

i'd like epic to keep it simple and make it 1,000,000 kills in Mp.

Are you crazy?! It took a good few nights of hours-long sessions of boosting to get my Seriously 2.0 in campaign. And we're talking about a spot where you can get 50-75 kills per spawn, for a good 100-150 every minute or so! And it took forever. You want one million in multiplayer? I remember joking with people that Seriously 3.0 would be one million kills, once again across the board, and I remember telling them realistically, if that were to happen, I wouldn't even bother campaign boosting again. But in multiplayer alone? Gosh, I believe that's simply impossible. I've been playing online games for decades, and a lot of them I have played addictively. That said, I bet if you took all of my online shooter stats from multiplayer from every game I've ever played, ever, I bet it would not equal out to one million kills. I don't know if you realize how crazy impossible 1,000,000 would be. Nobody would ever get it.

[BLACKOUT in HDV]

Remove levels completely, show your Matchmaking Rank as an image like pre-TU3 Gears 2. But obviously better.

Ranks are boring. It's just a number and it proves nothing. Showing your MM rank would show TrueSkill rather than who played the longest.

I disagree.
I think an overall rank to show your game time is nice to see and what kinds of players your up against

[BLACKOUT in HDV]

I would like top see them come up with something realistic that doesn't involve boosting

[KO Victory]

I got 2.0 and that was bad enough, 3.0 I'm not even going to try.

I don't fancy idle boosting and leaving my Xbox on for weeks just for it to melt before GOWJ lol!

If there's a 4.0 I hope it's a little more reasonable imo. Seriously has always been about boosting this time I hope it's about skill.

[Meuj]

i'd like epic to keep it simple and make it 1,000,000 kills in Mp.

That's just crazy. It took long enough to get 100,000 across the board in GoW2!

[Carnagd]

I don't mind crazy requirements for a seriously achievement as long as I actually get a reasonable time to do it e.g. not like seriously 3.0 where you need to play 18000 mp games in 1 year and a few months! god on number 1 you only needed 10 000 kills in mp.

[Predalian5]

I'm sure it will be something like "amass a total 5,000,000,000 minutes played"

That's unfortunate because 50 years is equal to 26,297,438.3 minutes

[I woah I]

Re ups are boring, I would want them to scrap it.Just have 100 levels.

Are you crazy or seriously insane? with out re-ups i'd be terribly bored atm in gears.. i'm not a serious chaser, nor plan to be, so re-ups are what keep my taste atm

[I Love U Jesus]

so your saying 50k kills online wouldnt be a waste of someones precious life? I can honestly admit to having 0 social life when gears 1 came out. And i only got 13k kills...

-xICooRsYIx

It's a lot less of a waste of one's life than brumak boosting for Seriously 2.0 or Seriously 3.0 bot grinding.

[LordOfDeath]

seriously 4.0 achieve 400000 chainsaw kills any mode. Just joking,hoping it isnt something insane like seriously 3.0...now it is even more joke to get legit because GOWJ. It could be just get x amount ribbons x amount kills x amount NOT ONYX medals and x amount levels.

[Perkinator2001]

how about earn the you serious ribbion which is dont die in ten ranked and completed matches

[BLACKOUT in HDV]

seriously 4.0 achieve 400000 chainsaw kills any mode.

YESSsssssssss

[Master Roshi]

I never said I was 'homeless'-- That was never part of my argument. So get the story straight. I have XBL, I have no problem with playing online or buying games, I'm not arguing because of the situation I'm in-- I guess that never dawned on you.

Jumipity, don't make me laugh-- Your only argument is people will boost and offline gamers aren't "hardcore" enough. Please, have a better reason. What do offline achievements have to do with you anyway, bragging rights? I paid for my game just like you, and if I CHOOSE to get them offline that should be an option. Evey body who is homeless isn't a gamer, and every gamer who doesn't have XBL isn't homeless... Your point of view is clearly pathetic-- You want an achievement for you "hardcore gamers" brag about them on XBL-- Not about XBL only.

That was never my argument at all.

My argument was that Seriously should go back to something that's obtainable without a serious grind. Making it obtainable offline would merit such things as Seriously 2.0 and Seriously 3.0. I want a Seriously achievement that isn't going to take 1.5+ years to get. The original Seriously was obtained by many players, without boosting, after a short 7-8 months of playing (it took me slightly longer, I needed 21,000 kills for it to unlock after all). A "fixed" version of the original Seriously would not only give hardcore players something to brag about (because we would certainly get it long before the casuals would), but would also make it obtainable without countless hours of boosting.

Learn2Read

I disagree.
I think an overall rank to show your game time is nice to see and what kinds of players your up against

It's one thing if you actually unlock something as you go. In Gears 3 I think there were 4 unlocks associated with your ranking level at launch? That's a bit boring and the level itself doesn't show skill. If they did something like, say, Halo did, where you can only get to a certain Rank Level by having a certain MM Level, that would show "TrueSkill" and time played. The way it is now is just a boring number. My opinion.

[RoboSeal1]

Re ups are boring, I would want them to scrap it.Just have 100 levels.

Hope they dont come back, it sucked getting my hard earned gears 2 wings twice then having to get my wings again in gears 3 and yet again and again after reup

Let the reup and arcade colorful characters and weapon skins die in 3

[RoboSeal1]

And im against ranked only achievements, rod even said he messed up by making gears 1 achievements ranked restriction

[Ant Heuser]

That was never my argument at all.

My argument was that Seriously should go back to something that's obtainable without a serious grind. Making it obtainable offline would merit such things as Seriously 2.0 and Seriously 3.0. I want a Seriously achievement that isn't going to take 1.5+ years to get. The original Seriously was obtained by many players, without boosting, after a short 7-8 months of playing (it took me slightly longer, I needed 21,000 kills for it to unlock after all). A "fixed" version of the original Seriously would not only give hardcore players something to brag about (because we would certainly get it long before the casuals would), but would also make it obtainable without countless hours of boosting.

Learn2Read



It's one thing if you actually unlock something as you go. In Gears 3 I think there were 4 unlocks associated with your ranking level at launch? That's a bit boring and the level itself doesn't show skill. If they did something like, say, Halo did, where you can only get to a certain Rank Level by having a certain MM Level, that would show "TrueSkill" and time played. The way it is now is just a boring number. My opinion.

All the Seriously's have been about grinding, and can easily be boosted. I fail to see where GoWJ will be any different in the 'boosting section'? If somebody gets the achievement offline, you'll never know, because they'll never be online. I have friends who own 360's and don't have Xbox LIVE-- Offline gamers are still a part of the community, (they purchased the game, right?) I was once an offline gamer before I switched to live back in '03. And getting seriously doesn't make you 'hardcore', I don't have any of the seriously achievements-- S1.0, I never got because I only played Annex-- Kills didn't count, S2.0, I was Over Seas and busy working, and S3.0, I'm not boosting-- Does that make me any less of a 'hardcore' fan/ and or gamer? Also, you can't force people to play online ranked, I'm sure someone will complain because of bots in QM-- Seriously 4.0, still boosted. But regardless of player skill, hardcore, casual, offline, achievement hunter etc. Who cares, XBL shouldn't be a requirement. You voiced your opinion, I acknowledged it, and I expressed mine-- If you can't respect my POV, stop commenting, and this goes for every game, not just Gears.