Gears of War Judgment Discussion Topic. Pre-Order Link in the OP

[LoD FENIX]

well ill probably play the crap out of it lol

Same. Pending if there is another mode we have yet to see in a Gears game.

[123MAN]

It wouldn't be Gears without some good 'ol sponging.

Lol. I am just glad the Lancer user won. But I am a bit worried. I haven't seen the SOS anywhere.

[Purple Haze]

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3...ears-of/731608

just watched this Judgment video- good video. My favorite part is around 29 sec when the grenadier takes a gnasher close range and then chainsaws Baird.

Thats. not. good. they do have about a year or so to fix sponging, i have my fingers crossed.

[123MAN]

Same. I love these types of games, especially when they're balanced. I love Beast mode(I honestly don't know why people don't like it...is it the "shortness" of the game mode, or what?), and I love Horde. I see this as an awesome Horde v Beast.

Beast is just stale in my opinion. Not enough variety. Horde is only fun when you have people to play with. Otherwise it is a bit of a chore, sometimes you get the odd good game.

[bchaps]

It wouldn't be Gears without some good 'ol sponging.

I was thinking the same thing.
I'm guessing the Grenadier has higher health than a normal character
--think Horde...Grenadiers take more than 1 gnasher shot

Also, something I've seen from the vids (and NFI pointed out in here a LONG time ago)...the Gnasher seems to have much less damage and a much smaller range

[Bazinga-A7X]

Its not Gears without sponges

[Terra D Serph]

Warzone & Execution are fun, but only if your are good. If you suck, or having an off day, you day quickly and spend most of the match in ghost cam. I would rather play respawns , so when I suck ( and I often do) at least I can keep playing (badly).

I'm not really one who often plays execution, but I seem to be good at it. O__o Most games I'm often getting over 50 points per assist if I haven't killed the enemy myself already.

[CARMINE COG]

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3...ears-of/731608

just watched this Judgment video- good video. My favorite part is around 29 sec when the grenadier takes a gnasher close range and then chainsaws Baird.

Sponging lol

[Purple Haze]

Lol. I am just glad the Lancer user won. But I am a bit worried. I haven't seen the SOS anywhere.

THAT IS A GOOD THING. Go back to gears 1 days. good ol lancer and gnasher.

[bchaps]

For those that missed this in the long stream of posts about sponging

I was thinking the same thing.
I'm guessing the Grenadier has higher health than a normal character
--think Horde...Grenadiers take more than 1 gnasher shot

Also, something I've seen from the vids (and NFI pointed out in here a LONG time ago)...the Gnasher seems to have much less damage and a much smaller range

I don't think that it is sponging...

[Veteran Gear]

I hope people doesn't get too excited about Overrun. Lots of people were excited about Beast, but now there's hardly any players there. Mostly because of the '12 Waves' limit.

[TwiStedxMind]

Its not Gears without sponges

the epic edition of judgment should come with a sponge just for the lulz

[Terra D Serph]

Lol. I am just glad the Lancer user won. But I am a bit worried. I haven't seen the SOS anywhere.

Don't know if you were there, but there's speculation that the upgrades are really weapon-swaps. Such that the grenadier can choose between two or more weapons(probably through some pre-lobby thing or a specific customization window). I think this would be good, as it'll give variety, and as long as the weapons are balanced, I don't see a problem with someone wielding a sawed-off in OverRun.

[123MAN]

THAT IS A GOOD THING. Go back to gears 1 days. good ol lancer and gnasher.

Hardly. It would just become boring again.

[xLON3 x R4NG3Rx]

will they keep the retro and sawed off? i mean, they cant just add two main weapons and then remove them.

[bchaps]

I hope people doesn't get too excited about Overrun. Lots of people were excited about Beast, but now there's hardly any players there. Mostly because of the '12 Waves' limit.

I think it is the '12 waves' thing as well as the fact of how similar each game is.
There really are only a few good combos of characters to use
There aren't any mutators

It was really fun...and people played it a ton.
But now we've pretty much played all of it as much as we can.

This new mode is VS....meaning each game may play out differently (so we hope)

[redX331]

Im pretty sure that wasnt sponging due to the fact that when you play beast you have different health than MP and of course theres no connection involved there but im not sure on that one.

[123MAN]

Don't know if you were there, but there's speculation that the upgrades are really weapon-swaps. Such that the grenadier can choose between two or more weapons(probably through some pre-lobby thing or a specific customization window). I think this would be good, as it'll give variety, and as long as the weapons are balanced, I don't see a problem with someone wielding a sawed-off in OverRun.

No, I was just looking at all the vids. I haven't seen the SO at all. Just hoping that they keep variety. Gnasher is boring to use in CQ imo.

[Terra D Serph]

For those that missed this in the long stream of posts about sponging



I don't think that it is sponging...

Yeah, it seems more of a balance than a "oh he didn't get gibbed because the grenadier is sponging." Imagine if grenadiers didn't have increased health....

Good lord, you'd just have an entire team of medics sitting as close to spawn as possible, or hanging around the generator, gibbing anyone who attempts to walk by.

[123MAN]

will they keep the retro and sawed off? i mean, they cant just add two main weapons and then remove them.

I wouldn't worry yet, only been a few days.

[bchaps]

will they keep the retro and sawed off? i mean, they cant just add two main weapons and then remove them.

I don't think they will be removed...but I do think they will be modified. (the retro at least)

If you go back to last night's conversation, we had a discussion I started about what we thought would be removed/changed

[Purple Haze]

Oh yea i wanted to add something.

CAN WE NOT HAVE BOOMS IN EVERY ****ING MAP.

gears 3 boom list


Bulletmarsh
Anvil
Oldtown
Overpass
Azura
Cove
Gridlock
Hotel
Jacinto
Sanbar
Aftermath
Academy

Thats more then half the maps. I'm sure I'm prob missing some.

[EddieFenix]

Woot. Nothing missed in here news wise. But, FIRE EMBLEM FOR THE 3DS. Imma happy man.

[123MAN]

I don't think they will be removed...but I do think they will be modified. (the retro at least)

If you go back to last night's conversation, we had a discussion I started about what we thought would be removed/changed

The Retro should only take a slight long range nerf. Gnasher should get a medium range nerf. This is for GoWJ. I don't think they should give an all out nerf because that would make it too easy to stay alive and on bigger maps that can drag out games. Just my two pennies.

[Terra D Serph]

I think it is the '12 waves' thing as well as the fact of how similar each game is.
There really are only a few good combos of characters to use
There aren't any mutators

It was really fun...and people played it a ton.
But now we've pretty much played all of it as much as we can.

This new mode is VS....meaning each game may play out differently (so we hope)

That's something I hope they fix in Beast if they look into it. I'd love to be able to use the Serapede successfully, or the Digger Boomer not die as fast as a regular Boomer. The Armored Kantus is fine, but I personally don't think an HP and defense increase, as well as double the damage(but with the same inaccuracy the gorgon had), can really compete with the regular Kantus, which(if you're smart with it) you can just hide behind a wall, heal constantly, and toss an ink to down a ton of enemies, killing them if they're not heroes/Onyx Guards. To me the Kantus is more helpful than the Armored Kantus, and I hope they look into things like that.

[123MAN]

Oh yea i wanted to add something.

CAN WE NOT HAVE BOOMS IN EVERY ****ING MAP.

gears 3 boom list


Bulletmarsh
Anvil
Oldtown
Overpass
Azura
Cove
Gridlock
Hotel
Jacinto
Sanbar
Aftermath
Academy

Thats more then half the maps. I'm sure I'm prob missing some.

Boomshot the most effective power weapon. Increases flow around the map. No other power weapon has such an effect.

[LoD FENIX]

Oh yea i wanted to add something.

CAN WE NOT HAVE BOOMS IN EVERY ****ING MAP..

This I agree with as well. Boom is great but makes the game boring when it's on so many maps.

It is just bar none the best power weapon (rightfully so) but that ruins some maps.

[Terra D Serph]

No, I was just looking at all the vids. I haven't seen the SO at all. Just hoping that they keep variety. Gnasher is boring to use in CQ imo.

I agree. I've used the gnasher for god knows how long. It's become one of those weapons that I'd rather not have to resort to for almost every close quarters scenario.

[Veteran Gear]

I think it is the '12 waves' thing as well as the fact of how similar each game is.
There really are only a few good combos of characters to use
There aren't any mutators

It was really fun...and people played it a ton.
But now we've pretty much played all of it as much as we can.

This new mode is VS....meaning each game may play out differently (so we hope)

Yeah. I do hope lots of people will play Overrun mode as much as the other modes.

I do like these kinds of Versus games. Combined Horde and Beast. Reminds me of one FPS Zombie-survival game a lot.

Any info, is there Silverback in Overrun? It could easily heat up or break down to balance it. And take the missiles off.

[bchaps]

Boomshot the most effective power weapon. Increases flow around the map. No other power weapon has such an effect.

Torque - awesome power weapon in general (up there with boom)
Sniper - keeps people's heads down (and keeps people moving and watching their 6)
Digger - gets people moving (gets people out of cover)

[123MAN]

I agree. I've used the gnasher for god knows how long. It's become one of those weapons that I'd rather not have to resort to for almost every close quarters scenario.

More starting weapons would be fantastic. More variety keeps the game fresh for so long. So many possibilities arise in MP when more weapons are involved.

[Terra D Serph]

Woot. Nothing missed in here news wise. But, FIRE EMBLEM FOR THE 3DS. Imma happy man.

Dream drop distance for the 3DS!

I'd play Fire Emblem, but that last DS game I played was such a disappointment to me, personally.

[Purple Haze]

The Retro should only take a slight long range nerf. Gnasher should get a medium range nerf. This is for GoWJ. I don't think they should give an all out nerf because that would make it too easy to stay alive and on bigger maps that can drag out games. Just my two pennies.

I think they won't have the retro and sawed off, Gears 3 catered to the casual players thats why why it died so fast and thats why they added TDM, sawed off and retro, this can't be argued, its a clear 100 % fact its been said by epic in various interviews, maybe GOWJ is catered to the hardcore fans and they will not be returning.

[bchaps]

Yeah. I do hope lots of people will play Overrun mode as much as the other modes.

I do like these kinds of Versus games. Combined Horde and Beast. Reminds me of one FPS Zombie-survival game a lot.

Any info, is there Silverback in Overrun? It could easily heat up or break down to balance it. And take the missiles off.

Haven't heard anything about Silverback...but I doubt it will be making a return (unless it's in horde)

[123MAN]

Torque - awesome power weapon in general (up there with boom)
Sniper - keeps people's heads down (and keeps people moving and watching their 6)
Digger - gets people moving (gets people out of cover)

Torque - A certain type of player goes for Torque, not many appreciate it.

Sniper - Difficult to use for many, not a game changer in most hands, even then is not as effective as Torque/Boom as both have increased splash damage when actived.

Digger - Effective, but not a game changer in almost everyone's hands. Can get kills, but non acitived is near useless.

[SWATSTRIKE]

Woot. Nothing missed in here news wise. But, FIRE EMBLEM FOR THE 3DS. Imma happy man.

Grenadier can have the Lancer and Gnasher in Overrun.

[123MAN]

I think they won't have the retro and sawed off, Gears 3 catered to the casual players thats why why it died so fast and thats why they added TDM, sawed off and retro, this can't be argued, its a clear 100 % fact its been said by epic in various interviews, maybe GOWJ is catered to the hardcore fans and they will not be returning.

Gears 3 has a larger active player base than any of the previous two.

It was not tailored to casuals and that is a common misconception. If it is easier to kill it is harder to die. Two sided coin right there.

[Gorgon Freeman]

More starting weapons would be fantastic. More variety keeps the game fresh for so long. So many possibilities arise in MP when more weapons are involved.

agreed, i would like to see the scorcher as a starting weapon that replaces the gnasher/ SOS

[kyoto771]

not sure if this vid's been posted, Cliff playing overRun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t03d25-vmtM

[Purple Haze]

Torque - A certain type of player goes for Torque, not many appreciate it.

Sniper - Difficult to use for many, not a game changer in most hands, even then is not as effective as Torque/Boom as both have increased splash damage when actived.

Digger - Effective, but not a game changer in almost everyone's hands. Can get kills, but non acitived is near useless.

I always go for bolton, torque and sniper, when i run with teams we do a heavy power weapon push and I'm the one to get the minor power weapon, since its usually a 1 v 1 situation. I prefer snipe and torque over boomshot. Not all do though you need to be really precise.