[Casual] Looking For Modeller (Weapons+Characters) for Metroid: Prime Hunters remake

[Zaiteria]

Hello,

I am a programmer currently working on remake a great Nintendo DS game, Metroid: Prime Hunters (MPH). I am looking for a weapon modeller/rigger looking for a small project to enhance their portfolio/skills. I currently require 7 character and weapon models with animations. Time-frame is not an issue for me, but as long as we keep in communication and up-to-date with each other, I'm happy!

I am currently extending heavily off UT classes, as the game is a arena-deathmatch game. I have programmed:

• Character-specific weapon effects
• Match weapon with character
• Weapons + Projectiles
• Custom Weapon "Charged-shot" (a heavily used feature in MPH)

Here is a picture of the characters. The weapons are the lower arms of each character: http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-...ossibility.jpg
Here is a small gameplay video of the actual game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0T0Z...yer_detailpage

Thanks for checking this out, please add any feedback (in terms of the quality of this post) and PM me if you are interested!
Zaiteria

[Zaiteria]

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[Saishy]

Copyright, blabla, you can't use UDK for that, blablabla.

Those things.

[Zaiteria]

Copyright, blabla, you can't use UDK for that, blablabla.

Those things.

Not planning on selling the game afterwards. Just doing it "For educational purposes". That's ok, isn't it?

[Saishy]

Not planning on selling the game afterwards. Just doing it "For educational purposes". That's ok, isn't it?

No, it is not. Still illegal.

I shall summon the default behavior on this event:





Edit: It is legal in the case you never ever distribute this game under any means to anyone, keeping it to yourself forever.

[Zaiteria]

No, it is not. Still illegal.

I shall summon the default behavior on this event:





Edit: It is legal in the case you never ever distribute this game under any means to anyone, keeping it to yourself forever.

The general plan is to just play it with friends. Not selling it at all or making it publicly available.

[Saishy]

The general plan is to just play it with friends. Not selling it at all or making it publicly available.

You, can, not, distribute it.
Be it your friends, family, or putting online without advertising.

Besides no one would work for something they can't make a name for, much less money.

[LinearLux]

Unfortunatly mate you will not be able to do that.

[Zaiteria]

You, can, not, distribute it.
Be it your friends, family, or putting online without advertising.

Besides no one would work for something they can't make a name for, much less money.

Hmm, then how is Geodav allowed to do it with 40k? http://www.moddb.com/mods/ut40k-the-chosen
I'm not trying to be arrogant or ignorant, I'm just trying to figure out why it isn't allowed when others are already using copyrighted content and allowed to distribute it on moddb?

[LinearLux]

Hmm, then how is Geodav allowed to do it with 40k? http://www.moddb.com/mods/ut40k-the-chosen
I'm not trying to be arrogant or ignorant, I'm just trying to figure out why it isn't allowed when others are already using copyrighted content and allowed to distribute it on moddb?

Actually you have a point there, plus think about the Metroid Prime remake for Halo CE on the pc: http://www.moddb.com/mods/metroid-online

[Zaiteria]

Actually you have a point there, plus think about the Metroid Prime remake for Halo CE on the pc: http://www.moddb.com/mods/metroid-online

Exactly, this is why I'm confused

[LinearLux]

Hmmm...perhaps if you just don't sell it commercially and keep it free like the Halo version you should be fine? I mean, they didn't get any stick for it..

[Saishy]

Hmmm...perhaps if you just don't sell it commercially and keep it free like the Halo version you should be fine? I mean, they didn't get any stick for it..

No you are not fine.

Let's say you develop a new product.
Then someone goes and make the same product but start distributing for free.
Now you don't sell anymore because someone is already distributing for free.

And them you say "Oh but there are a lot of ____ fangames or mods, why they can and I can't?"
Let me tell you a little secret... THEY CAN'T.

See this: http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm ?
Those are the crime rates for united states, there was 27.5 rapes per 100,000 inhabitants in 2010. So if there is that much people raping I guess it is ok to rape as well, right? RIGHT? NO F**** NO ARE YOU INSANE?
If someone else is doing it by no means it gives you a right to do it as well, how childish can you be?

What happens is the following: there is no police for copyright, if someone is using your idea you have to defend it yourself.
Now try to imagine a company like Square Enix trying to close all the mods and fan games people have ever made, yeah difficult right?

So they only closes the one that gets too much attention.
This mean that if your work gets anywhere near good you will be sued for good.
So doing a fangame will either get you a crappy game that you will be ashamed to mention in your portfolio or a cease and desist order. And I don't recommend either.

Disney, Square Enix and Nintendo are the most famous company for distributing cease and desist order as well as suing people over that. There was a very good and professional chrono trigger mod almost done and they got a cease and desist order after many years of development, why did they wait so much before telling them to go away? Maybe they just hate people that much.
Your mileage may vary in this realm, some companies are more friendly with mods and fangames going as far as to giving them marketing in their sites. And others, as you can see above, just hate you.

So do it at your own risk, doing a fangame is a game where the only good move is not to play it.

[Zaiteria]

I'm sorry, but that's a stupid example. Rape is a totally different issue as it has so many negative emotional and mental effects. Also, "Now you don't sell anymore because someone is already distributing for free.". It's a 6 year old game, that is unavailable on PC. How many sales do you think they'll actually lose?

Thank you for your advice, but I'm going to disregard it. If I do get sued for whatever reason, I'll come back and PM you personally and say you were right. Until then, I'm going to keep developing the game.
Zaiteria

[Saishy]

No, you will not get sued because you will never finish this game.

5 years late pm me if you didn't finish or was sued.

[Zaiteria]

No, you will not get sued because you will never finish this game.

5 years late pm me if you didn't finish or was sued.

Now who's being childish? Reverting to down-talking. Had enough of this, please don't post again.

[Saishy]

Now who's being childish? Reverting to down-talking. Had enough of this, please don't post again.

I must say that the guy who imposes his own value system over the law by saying what is right or not is the childish one.
I mean, just my guess....

Anyway I think we had enough of this, you are not allowed to make games based on other copyrights by epic's rule so you can not have this thread in this forum.
I can't order and of course I don't intend to threaten you but I would like to suggest you to edit this thread or let it die before epic's moderation have a glimpse at it, they are very strict.

[Zaiteria]

I must say that the guy who imposes his own value system over the law by saying what is right or not is the childish one.
I mean, just my guess....

Anyway I think we had enough of this, you are not allowed to make games based on other copyrights by epic's rule so you can not have this thread in this forum.
I can't order and of course I don't intend to threaten you but I would like to suggest you to edit this thread or let it die before epic's moderation have a glimpse at it, they are very strict.

Yes, because geodav, well known for working on a Warhammer 40k game, is an Unreal MVP on this forum...apparently Epic value his input higher than the law of copyright...

[darthviper107]

They may or may not do anything, chances are they won't.

In any case, you're going to have a hard time getting any people to help if you don't plan on distributing it or selling it.

[Zaiteria]

Would also like to add this: http://www.udk.com/showcase-renegadex All the assets in the game are of C&C units/characters - and it's in the UDK Showcase?

[darthviper107]

It depends on how much stuff they used, the name is different and if they created entirely new content (designs, story) without using anything from C&C then it would be OK.

[Zaiteria]

It depends on how much stuff they used, the name is different and if they created entirely new content (designs, story) without using anything from C&C then it would be OK.

The models include that of the ones found in C&C.

C&C Mammoth Tank: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...DIMammoth2.gif
Renegade-X Mammoth Tank: http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/..._Mammoth_1.jpg

[Saishy]

Oh, so we are back to the "other people did it so I should be allowed to do to" idea.
I personally find it hilarious to imagine someone using that defense in anything, "but mom, the other kids totally have an iphone too!", "but judge, that other guy totally stole that store too!"

And yes, as darthviper stated Renegade-X is at that grey area where while they copied the concept they didn't copy the whole game and changed some things. Since the company don't have the rights for tanks and the war concept they can't block it right away.

http://www.gamesradar.com/10-fan-gam...d-or-desisted/

http://nukezilla.com/2009/05/12/fan-...st-letters-to/