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    You must understand that it's not like you wallbounce and "bam" you're there. Wallbouncing also has a learning curve of it's own and it's fun and a challenge to do. But you're right when people overdo it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_suicide_fox View Post
    I find hardaiming to be more effective than wallbouncing. .
    Since Gears 2 came out and I found it necessary to hard aim I can almost no longer shoot a gnasher without it. It's second nature. Only for a split second mind you, but I still do it. In Gears 1 I was great at it without aiming. Can't break my habit. Works well enough. Especially on bouncers. To me it just looks silly. Love frag tagging them too. Funny stuff. The "B" button on a lancer is effective as well. I dont' use it, but know guys who do. I just laugh.
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    whatever.Even good wallbouncers can be just chainsawed it doesnt matter how fast you are it,chainsaw beats wallbouncing.Of course,assuming you have fuel on it.
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    I think wallbouncing depends on the player. I personally use it as a crowd control method. Let's say it's me and another dude fighting each other. I probably will wallbounce a small amount if any while fighting the opponent. When more than 1 player comes at me then I wallbounce alot more for confusion and that way they are hitting each other more than me. Most people can't follow a great wallbouncer/strafer which is key for a gnasher shotgun user.
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    I rarely get killed by those guys some guys just over do it by the time there finished I'm hard aiming bullets in that ass

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    Wallbouncing is good to extend a CQC fight so a teamate can mop up your opponent, or as a way to attempt to defeat multiple opponents. If you don't have backup inbound it's better to strafe in a 1v1 scenario. Or if you are about to be facing multiple opponents, wallbouncing can sometimes get you a quick Gib or if worst comes to worst a way to survive the encounter.

    I don't wallbounce that often but when i do it is only to help me survive an encounter by the methods i depicted above. Also wall bouncing is great to travel a level faster like up stairwells or coridoors, as long as no one is waiting at the other end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_suicide_fox View Post
    I find hardaiming to be more effective than wallbouncing. Doing 1 or 2 well timed bounces can be a lifesaver, but besides that it's not that great. It loses effectiveness when lag is reduced. If you play on LAN you would know wallbouncing doesn't help in the slightest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gloves78 View Post
    Spot on mate I agree with everything you've said.

    The ones that are standing still are always the easiest to kill I think
    Well, what would happen if the two kind of players (the ones than can counter wallbouncers, and the ones that can kill that kind of people) battle in the same match?

    The result: BLOOD!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rafaeltaua View Post
    I kill a lot of people who goes from a side to the other, bouncing just to bounce.
    These are the Bad wallbouncers, who loses accuracy while bouncing and are predictable.

    HOWEVER, there are good wallbouncers. They may sounds a mith but they really exist.
    Good wallbouncers can maintain a good accuracy while bouncing and don't need to bounce 10 times before trying to kill you.
    They just bounce ONE TIME and GIB you.
    Good wallbouncers are rare. But They exist.
    This guy is a good wallbouncer, for example
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMmCUIt6a4k
    That is a good example. I would definitely be afraid of a player like that
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    I noticed too, that everyone is trying to wallbounce now. If you're gonna wallbounce do it right, you don't do it twenty times before you are even near the enemy. And if you do it right it's unstoppable except on rare occasions. Most people that wallbounce now though don't what they're doing, just trying to pretend they have skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by llMurall View Post
    If you're killing wallbouncers, then you're killing the ones that are doing it wrong.
    This. Good wallbouncers would've wrecked you if you were standing still like that.

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    I once saw 4 players in Aftermath at the place of the ink grenade all wallbouncing in a little space trying to kill eachother, a remarkable sight to say the least. It is effective but only at times. If I surprise my opponents I don't need to wallbounce anyways because they won't know I'm coming for them anyway.

    The common mistake most people make when dealing with wallbouncers is trying to follow them with their camera to shoot them, but they are faster then you can move your camera, I just point my gnasher to the middle and when I see him on my screen I shoot and he goes down or dies. Just don't follow them with your camera, that's the best advice against wallbouncers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rafaeltaua View Post
    I kill a lot of people who goes from a side to the other, bouncing just to bounce.
    These are the Bad wallbouncers, who loses accuracy while bouncing and are predictable.

    HOWEVER, there are good wallbouncers. They may sounds a mith but they really exist.
    Good wallbouncers can maintain a good accuracy while bouncing and don't need to bounce 10 times before trying to kill you.
    They just bounce ONE TIME and GIB you.
    Good wallbouncers are rare. But They exist.
    This guy is a good wallbouncer, for example
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMmCUIt6a4k
    No... Wait, now i watched the whole thing. This guy is fast as hell... But if you look carefully, he died a lot by doing wallbouncing and placing himself in the enemy's gib range.

    It's like a fifty-fifty...

    My point of view remains intact. Nice video though.
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    Wallbouncing is only useful if your up against 2 or more people or trying to evade them. And even then it doesn't work all the time. And I bounce a lot
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    I love destroying wallbouncers who are trying really hard with my strafe, it makes me happy.

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    strafers>wallbouncers

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    I've also come to think people that cannot wallbounce envy the good wallbouncers beause they place them in the stereotype of "try hards". When I wallbounce I'm not trying any harder than when I strafe, its a natural movement to me when I play gears of war not me trying my heart out. No matter how good you can get at anything you cannot always be on your game. Some days things are easy some days things are hard as hell when you feel like your doing exactly the same things you did as when it felt easy. I personally think people just need to stop acting all high and mighty about things. Okay so you killed someone who wallbounced good for you, pat on the back, let me hold up the APPLAUSE sign to the audience. Bottom line the majority of the kills in gears are on strafers and I can Hammerburst down a strafer much easier than I can an unpredictable wallbouncer trying to evade. The "pretenders" of bouncing seem to be giving players the "big head" mutator. Someone wise once told me that once they stop talking about you, you have to worry and personally I've never seen anyone say, "am I the only one not afraid of strafers", so I'm thinking the reason people try and mask there fear of wallbouncing is just a front they put up.

    The way I see it, there are to many checkers players trying to play chess
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    It was cool in Gears 1 in Gears 3 not so much, I don't care how good you are at it most vets can read it and cancel it. I love when a Baird using Onyx Gnasher user thinks they can set me up or the ones that do it all the time it gets old fast. I guess I'm just tired of the same crap. The thing is that people have this crazy idea that the only way to be good at this game is to wallbounce and use the Gnasher when that is far far from the truth. Wallbouncing should be used to get away from 3 on 1 or more situations not just to show off your Onyx Gnasher that is the easiest Onyx to get but hey it takes skill to get.....lol.

    No one should fear wallbouncers in Gears 3 trust me 90% of them are jokes that do it way to much. You play Gears enough you can read them like a book.
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    A good strafer will beat a wall-bouncer in almost every situation
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    Quote Originally Posted by xII J0SH IIx View Post
    A good strafer will beat a wall-bouncer in almost every situation
    Agree as long as it's 1v1.
    Wallbouncing imo is useful to get You out of 1v2 or 1v3 situations.
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    one bouncer tried bouncing down the corridor towards me to the nades on thrashball , i just stood still blam hes dead, ill kill a bouncer 9 out of 10 times just by strafing , and im a crap mp player compared to alot of my friends, saying that my worst nightmare is a wallbouncing sponge

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    There are wallbouncers. Then there are good wallbouncers. The wallbouncer will just fly left and right at any opportunity, firing gnasher shells all over the damned place. The good wallbouncer will mix it up with a strafe, keeping things unpredictable and will hit you with most of the shots they fire.

    But to be honest, the ones who are just flying all over the place are probably still in the learning phase. Whether it's conscious or not, they're most likely just trying to get the feel of bouncing itself.
    But you know when you're against a competent bouncer, it's just hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iCannotEatSugar View Post
    But to be honest, the ones who are just flying all over the place are probably still in the learning phase. Whether it's conscious or not, they're most likely just trying to get the feel of bouncing itself.
    This. You can't start wallbouncing 'the effective way' straight away. Watching youtube tutorials is nothing compared to the experience you gain by trying different techniques/strategies against the enemy in the actual MP. It all starts with 'bounce everywhere'. Then you start seeing places/situations where you know it'll be a good choice to bounce, you start to use it more consciously. It takes time, and in most cases a lot of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xZPFxBarteq View Post
    This. You can't start wallbouncing 'the effective way' straight away. Watching youtube tutorials is nothing compared to the experience you gain by trying different techniques/strategies against the enemy in the actual MP. It all starts with 'bounce everywhere'. Then you start seeing places/situations where you know it'll be a good choice to bounce, you start to use it more consciously. It takes time, and in most cases a lot of it.
    Exactly. I learnt a long time ago in Gears 1. I just watched how players were using it effectively and copied them, then my own style started to fit in. I was playing a guy on Raven Down 24/7 just a couple of days ago and his bouncing was atrocious. He'd just go wall to wall all over the place and not even take any shots until he was all up in your face, and even then he would miss and the whole process would be repeated. When most people start learning they think it's a quick thing when really it's not.

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    I don't even know if I am good at wallbouncing or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xII J0SH IIx View Post
    A good strafer will beat a wall-bouncer in almost every situation
    Which ever one wins depends more on player skill and proficiency in their respective techniques, not solely on which technique a person is using.

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    I just feel that wallbouncing is stupid but thats my opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by katchtwentysix View Post
    one bouncer tried bouncing down the corridor towards me to the nades on thrashball , i just stood still blam hes dead, ill kill a bouncer 9 out of 10 times just by strafing , and im a crap mp player compared to alot of my friends, saying that my worst nightmare is a wallbouncing sponge
    Case closed, there are just to many pretenders out there. You stood behind a corner and waited for them to get close and corner shot. You didn't strafe or bet a wall bouncer. You killed a dumb player.
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    ive run across very few wall bouncers who were good enough to consistently kill me using it. there have been a couple of guys though


 
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