Unreal Engine 4 targeted at future Consoles?

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Uh. Ok.

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[VACkillers]

Well if indeed Tim Sweeney said that, is a rediculas accusation to imply that consoles are somehow better then farmville, because their not !!

Common now, compared a console to fking farmville? REALLY?? REAAAALLLLLY? its not even a bloody game!! facebook apps aren't really what i would call a mainstream gaming powerhouse now. UE4 according to "Mark Reign" will barely run on the next gen consoles as it is !!! i find it ludicrous that he would even say that because its not what the core developers at epic have been saying since the beginning of the year!!! Mark even went as far as to say that sony and microsoft better shape up with their next gen consoles because if they are not careful, they will get overtaken by Apple, and looking at the specs of the IPad 3 which is quad core gfx in it aswell as multi-core cpu, i find it difficult to believe that the next gen consoles could do much better then that AND keep the cost under 8-$900. Considering that the Samaritan demo needed 3 GTX 580s to even run properly, and not a single GTX 680 can do the same job, there is no way, in my mind, that UE4 can at this time, even possibly run on the next gen consoles at it is, especially when PS4 is supposed to be using 6 series radeon in it, theres just no way its going to run UE4, so that statement, its FKING PATHETIC!!!!

I could go on and on, but its down to MONEY!!! plain and simple, they abandoned PC mainstream development because of all the money they made with gears... Its upto Epic if they want to do a console focused engine, then thats totally upto them and i know it'll be an amazing engine with some amazing games but it hurts as a dedicated pc gamer since i was 14, (now 32) that PC gets hung out to dry because there is more money in consoles because of the thumb generation!!!

[Slowman]

Well the man was just making a "opinion"!...
Lets try to guess the number of peaple at "Epic games" that have and use a console???
at the moment its just another "useless" electrical gadget!!!...
...Well it may be ok for kids, but I´d still buy my kids a PC!!!

[fru]

The original article: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/featur...epics_tim_.php

I think he fully well knows the capabilities of PC's. They're obviously put off by the sales of UT3 on the PC (blaming it upon piracy and all). They need to make a dedicated PC game similar to UT99 & UT2004, and not something that feels, looks, or functions like a console game -- a total disrespect to PC gamers.

Reading comments around the net and looking at the new PC games breaking though, it seems as though Sci-Fi shooters are on their way back. A perfect opportunity to make a glorified PC-only game (UT4).

[wikkid]

PC first, consoles second, wish dev's would print that into their minds, then they wouldn't have to worry about PC Sales.

[Bl!tz~]

dunno what to think about this....hopefully engines are less demanding than the games that goes with....i hope next UT(if theres 1 day a new UT) will not require a brand new PC....again +.+

[Sly.]

@Bl!tz: It will. ಠ_ಠ

Oh and I knew it... My PC was just too good to be real, it's just a fiction...
Just kidding. But that's what I was thinking when I read this.

I respect Tim Sweeney but that statement is... weird.
Maybe he meant the "statistically average PC" and not PCs overall but just forgot to mention that. When we PC-gamers think of PCs, we think of our gaming rigs...

[Oldskool0482]

PC first, consoles second, wish dev's would print that into their minds, then they wouldn't have to worry about PC Sales.

Yeah agree 100%

[|213|]

I owned a Super Ninetendo and a Play Station. Then around mid-late 2000 my buddy introduced me to Unreal Tournament 99. I was amazed at how verbose the menu was, the options for almost anything seemed like candy-land!

I will NEVER buy a console again.

N E V E R

[Hyzoran]

@Bl!tz: It will. ಠ_ಠ

Oh and I knew it... My PC was just too good to be real, it's just a fiction...
Just kidding. But that's what I was thinking when I read this.

I respect Tim Sweeney but that statement is... weird.
Maybe he meant the "statistically average PC" and not PCs overall but just forgot to mention that. When we PC-gamers think of PCs, we think of our gaming rigs...

Yea but even modern 400-500$ computers still look better than consoles, (depends on the game really, and your resolution, as consoles right now run on an extremely low resolution, so lowering the pc resolution might help alot)
and even 200$ pcs have better cpus than consoles.

[geronaho]

PC first, consoles second, wish dev's would print that into their minds, then they wouldn't have to worry about PC Sales.

Forgive me for my pc loyalties.. Can console make maps, mutators, skins, mods?

[KurlonT]

It seems odd to compare the 6-7yr old 360/PS3 consoles to any current PC since last time I checked you can't upgrade those consoles CPU/GPU. Anyways if you can build a COMPLETE PC for the current price of a 360/PS3 and still make todays shooters run better than the console version...then kudos.

Also developing a PC only game is fine but if you can reach more than one platform w/o any major drawbacks then why not? BF3 and MW3 seemed to work out pretty good for both platforms so why not the next Unreal title...unless what I'm really seeing is just residual angst from UT3...:P

[Slowman]

humm...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RZ7Y...eature=related

[snake12]

what a same the epic games never join the confession

[jomi294]

I hope we can get next gen consoles before 2014

[marie.weaver132]

As per my observation, Epic PC game market is very small and focus on console is a clear choice here.

[TKBS]

unless Console developers pull their finger out, they will not be powerful enough for the next engine; irrelevant of what a great job Epic are doing about getting high powered engine to work on low powered machines.

- PC will always pwn and lead the way; if consoles can't keep up the pace they lose out.

- and the easiest market to penetrate + profit from is Phones and handheld mediums.> which is the preffered market medium at the moment for highest revenue.

[>I Am Legend<]

Consoles are better than pc gaming, glitches and cheats for example on pc gaming...nuff said. I would love the UE4 to come onto the gen consoles, imagine playing a new gears game made with UE4 on a new console (maybe a windows 8 console?).

[TKBS]

@ i am legend: thats a good point; a no hacker environment would be a haven.
- but what are u talking about no glitches?- LMAO -
- i think the ps3 community discovered like 35% of the glitches in UT3- at least i know i did.- i found glitches on PS3 that don't even happen on PC

- Unfortunately Windows 8 is an OS that again- is basically wholly aimed at handheld mediums; with things like apps and other silly gimmicks

- Imagine GOW 1 for UDK; well for me this not something i have to imagine- i can run around GOW environments in UDK - just aint got the code

[VACkillers]

It seems odd to compare the 6-7yr old 360/PS3 consoles to any current PC since last time I checked you can't upgrade those consoles CPU/GPU. Anyways if you can build a COMPLETE PC for the current price of a 360/PS3 and still make todays shooters run better than the console version...then kudos.

Also developing a PC only game is fine but if you can reach more than one platform w/o any major drawbacks then why not? BF3 and MW3 seemed to work out pretty good for both platforms so why not the next Unreal title...unless what I'm really seeing is just residual angst from UT3...:P

Don't get me started on BF3 hehe....

BF3 worked well from a marketing stand point, but because of the consoles limitations, it restricted so much of the PC development, so much that should have been included with the PC version of the game was not in because of those reasons, as quoted form the "man-with-the-plan: Patrick Bach" the PC was the primary focus which was then changed half way through development" and because of that, they left out bot support, mod support, map editor, effective anti-cheat, proper server support, ZERO lan support for effective cyber athletes competitions, took out the battle-recorder (one of BF2s master features) and then the superiorly LOW textures that was shipping for the consoles, even though the PS3 had an aditional blueray that you could load the high-res textures if you wanted but not on by defualt and 360 didn't get them unless it was later released via some sort of xbox 360 download. MW3 is almost solely a Console game anyway, its just ported over to pc to get extra sales. Unreal Tournament 3 suffered a lot because it took out some of the more traditional features of a PC game usually has because it was made from the ground up to be on all 3 platforms, main thing being server browsers and menu stuff you can search the forums to find all that out anyway.

Consoles dumb down PC games, period... there is no two ways going around that issue, they do, and i dont like using that term either but for lack of better words right now, thats what the console generation has done with so many tittles its fruastraiting beyond belief, games are made for money now, not for pashion, thank god mark reign still has the passion god knows where epic games would be at right now, soley consoles i would assume with the gears of war stuff and many other clones of that. Now mark has a real vision and hopefully he can fullfill that with the next UT release whenever that'll be, he laid down the gauntlet saying how much more powerfull UE4 is, that a single GTX680 can run what was previously needed for 3 GTX580s!!! thats nutz, and if you think the next generation of consoles can compete with that people are seriously kidding yourself, unless microsoft n sony dont mind loading up a $500 grahpics card inside the next gen consoles. it just simply wont happen.

[Sly.]

None of us hardcore-diehard PC gamers want to accept this fact, but we are a dieing breed. In all truth and honesty Halo was the sniper bullet that hit us for 70 damage when we spawned with 100 hp, and though we may have grabbed a 25 pack which puts us up to 55 hp, call of duty just put a shock beam into us for 45 damage, thus we have 10hp left, and those assholes at Microsoft just picked up the minigun...

I lol'd. Only a true Unreal (Tournament) fan can phrase something like this.