Custom options for Horde (290+ voters) Exp modifier update at 300.

[Timmzy27]

NOTE: This thread has a multi vote poll so you can agree with more than one if you so choose.

Are you like me and play horde a lot but are tired of not being able to edit any of it (aside from mutators)? Have your friends abandoned you for other games that came out shortly after GoW3? YES!? Then read below:

Whether it be for the reasons above or not, Horde should have more options to edit/change. I often would rather play private horde and have no lag or morons online screwing you over by not reviving you or buying a Silverback by wave 8 and making the rest of the match ONE HELL OF A BORING GRIND.


Currently we have:

- Difficulty
- Start Wave
- Map Selection
- Enable Mutators

These are the only 4 things we can change but the menu would allow for 8 things to be put on it (like how many playlists there are for "Standard" or "Forces of Nature" in MP). Now I am going to post some "Options" of which I think we should have and a reason why we should have them, plus what the option should say when changing it.


My Ideas for Custom Options:


- No. of Bots (AI Team mates)

Reason: Quite often we are waiting for friends to come online or just fancy doing a few waves solo for half an hour or so but doing horde by yourself can be annoying as ALL the enemies are targeting you. Add AI team mates to take the load off, provide a distraction and help kill the enemies for a more enjoyable solo horde session. Now, I'm not talking about the Onyx Guard decoy, this would be a bot with a load out just like a humans would be (Smoke, Snub, Shotgun, Rifle) and would possibly have the same load out as the human player as a kind of sub level of controlling what they have to start with. Also, this bot would be able to do everything a human can like build fortifications between waves, buy ammo/weapons, scout for ammo for free on the floor between waves etc. Also this would help with public horde so you get a bot replacement when someone quits, and gets replaced when somebody joins.
Option would say: Number of Bots: 0 (Default), 1, 2, 3, 4, Fill

EXP Modifier: TO BE ADDED AT 300 VOTES!


- Fortifications (On/Off)

Reason: There are people out there like me that prefer classic horde, so adding this would mean we could play as close to that as we can with there been lambent and all. This is not just for the Classic Horders like myself but also for people who may want a challenge and decide to turn them off for a game or 2.
Option would say: Fortifications: On (Default), Off

EXP Modifier: TO BE ADDED AT 300 VOTES!


- Wave Enemies (Custom enemies for each set of 10 waves (Like a weekend event))

Reason: Ok first off, I know this would be harder to implement as it would require more sub options Wave 1 Enemies spawn X amount, 5 Tickers, 2 Butchers, 3 Boomers etc. Though I think this would be cool if we could have this as Halo Reach's Firefight lets you customize EVERYTHING right down to what enemies spawn on what wave, so why cant Gears?
Option would say: To long to put everything (Will do it if there is enough demand for this option)

EXP Modifier: TO BE ADDED AT 300 VOTES!


- Fortification Cost (Fortifications Free or cost what they do now)

Reason: Again, I come back to Halo Reach as an example. In Firefight you can be invincible if you want and/or be invisible so for horde why not have is so we can buy every Command Post and all the fortifications tied to it for FREE. So all fortifications for example the barriers and every upgrade for them would be free, this would just be for messing around (like what people do in Firefight) but all horde medal/fortification progress would not count as it would be too easy. Having said it would be too easy, this would again only be for messing around.
Option would say: Fortification Cost: Normal (Default), Free

EXP Modifier: TO BE ADDED AT 300 VOTES!


EDIT:

Here is one more option I was going to add into this thread but forgot about it at the time.

- Wave Interval Time

Reason: The default time for each wave interval is 30 seconds, now for someone like me that is near enough an eternity.
We should be able to decrease or increase the wave interval time in sets of 5 seconds so that eternity is only 5 seconds if we want it to be.
Option would say: Wave Interval Time: Off, 5 ,10, 15, 20, 25, 30 (Default), 35, 40, 45, 50, 55 and 60 (Max).

EXP Modifier: TO BE ADDED AT 300 VOTES!


Here is a second option I have thought of:

- No. Of Downs Per Wave

Reason: This would allow players to either give themselves a challenge by lowering how many times they can get downed per wave from 2 to 0 (GoWJ Style) ultimately getting more EXP (More on that when votes reach 300). Or increase it to max of 5 to allow an easier play through for newbies of the game (As rare as that seems now but I still see new players from time to time), again this would lower the amount of EXP because it makes the game easier if you have team that revives each other a lot.
Option Would Say: Downs Per wave: 0 (GoWJ Style and would allow practice for Judgement), 1, 2 (Default), 3, 4, 5 (Max).

EXP Modifier: TO BE ADDED AT 300 VOTES!

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Now if you have any thoughts on these or have your own ideas for options, please comment and write them in my template like above (Option name, Reason and what the Option would say) and I will edit the OP and post your ideas below or the reserve post.

Your Option Ideas:

I know as a community we can think of some great options, let me see you post them.

All I want is a classic horde option

An option to play "Classic" horde.

We should be able to choose how long we have to build our bases.

We should have more Mutators
Examples:
Dizzy's hat, Dom's Beard
Custom Loadouts/Weapon Spawns
Ability to use Locust Skins (Nothing Changes except you can now use Characters like Theron/Grenadier/Drones in Horde, the Enemies are the same)
Get Gnashty Style Horde (Everyone has a Gnasher Only, Even the Locust, I.E. Drones, Theron, Grenadiers,Kantus)

Good idea, there would have to be separate leaderboards though. I work hard for my high scores and wouldn't like to see my rankings fall because of scores with different settings being easier. Maybe a custom horde leaderboard? Sounds like alot of work for Epic, so prob won't happen. Horde 3.0....

More mutators are needed to add replay value:
-Auto Reload
-Power Weapons have infinite ammo

Also increase the amount of mutator slots from 3 to 5.

One Option could be disabling certain fortifications in a Run.(I.E. Disable SB to prevent Abuse, Disable Sentries and Decoys so players are the only existing target for the Locust to kill.

starting weapon option.

let me choose any weapon for starting weapons. im tired of collecting my fav weapons

You should be allowed to make your own horde set up like the command center goes here and there and all that

Maybe how many waves you can go up to?
(Ex. 100, 150, 160)

Onyx Guard Decoy Commands
-Can set him to follow a player or the creator of the decoy
-Swap weapons with him
-Have him guard an area

Horde Mode
-Choose which enemies spawn
-Empty spots can be taken up by CPU player who after a round give money to the nearest player controlled charactor
-Unlimited Cash Mode

All I would really love is the ability to choose the boss wave or what type of enemies I'll be getting... Since I do the vast, vast majority of horde solo.
So I'd just like the option to pick what boss or enemy SET I have, such as 1-10, savage + corpsers, 11-20 lambent + gunkers. 21-30 standard + brumak. 31 -40 savage + brumak, 41-50 standard + beserkers.

If I could just pick my bosses, I'd be the happiest horder in the world!

A survival mode.
No waves, only time. The longer you survive the harder it gets.
No pauses. Fix fortifications when needed. If you need ammo either risk running or switching out weapons.
Dead teammates respawn after 1 minute, or can buy back in.
Enemies are randomly generated at any time. Bosses will spawn in the same way and even 2 types at once.

Another thing... It's pretty rare that you'll play on the map packs (public). So maybe a "horde on map packs" playlist?

I REALLY LIKE THIS ONE ^^^

[Timmzy27]

Reserve post for extension of YOUR horde NON PRE GAME option ideas:

Totally support this Would love to see some more horde customization options considering that what we have now is barebones. Some more fortifications would be nice to like something that automatically spots things for you.

I made a thread awhile back with a suggestion for horde mode.

Add a weapon case including the original 5 loadout weapons. (gnasher, sawed off, lancer, retro, snub). These weapon cases could appear at command posts when purchased. Each weapon costing x amount of money.

Reason being, is there are often times where people find themselves wanting the weapon they dont have. And its not like multiplayer where you can frequently change your loadout. If you want to change your weapon, you either have to die, or hope to find it laying on the ground. I think it would be much more convenient to have a weapon case including these 5 weapons.

Heres a link to my original thread. It didnt get the most attention, but from the little it got, it seemed to get great support.
http://forums.epicgames.com/threads/...inal-5-Weapons

These are all good ideas. The maxed-out decoy is pretty much an AI teammate, but I understand what you mean by starting out with bots. I would support this as long as it lets you get the ribbons (I hate how you can't get ribbons when you play solo.) Also, you would have to have some control over the bots (perhaps like Gears 1's tac-com.)

I suggest a button that allows you to skip the wave interval

It would be extremely impressive if EPIC decided that those who chose to re-up no longer had to pay for weapons.
Hint...... Hint
Wink..... Wink

Another Idea. Insurance! After you Finish a certain selection you feel like you don't want to spend any more money on it.

So here's what I purpose:
After you finish a certain selection (Ex: Barriers) 10% of whatever you spend will be added to a
bank in the selection you use it on. So when you need more money, You can simply take out the
extra money from the selected Bank.

Example: After I finish a Silverback. If I spend 1500 on repairing it, I will have put 150 in the bank.
So lets say I stop there. Then in the next game, I need extra money, I can take it out of my bank.

[DanTheGamer11]

They wouldn't include any ones linked to achievements such as the fortifications...

[HRPac]

great idea. i've always wanted to be able to design my own set of enemy spawns (would love to have a wave against 40 grenadiers). the fortification option (free or normal) is another great one just to switch it up. they could reduce XP / points to adjust for each of the changes the player makes (if they make it easier).

[Timmzy27]

They wouldn't include any ones linked to achievements such as the fortifications...

They should, if people still need certain horde achievements that require fortifications then they would simply have the fortification "On" (which would be the default setting).

Great idea. I've always wanted to be able to design my own set of enemy spawns (would love to have a wave against 40 grenadiers). The fortification option (free or normal) is another great one just to switch it up. They could reduce XP / points to adjust for each of the changes the player makes (if they make it easier).

Yeah, I reckon we should get some more XP if for example we have fortifications turned off, maybe 10% - 20% extra.

[DanTheGamer11]

Maybe so, but there will be a lot of compainers who would feel cheated... they still didn't add private Guardian.

[Timmzy27]

Maybe so, but there will be a lot of compainers who would feel cheated... they still didn't add private Guardian.

These "Options" would most likely have to be added in a TU, so they can add Guardian into private MP at the same time. It can't be that hard to implement.

[STK Knoxy]

I think it would be nice if they added a horde mode where you could play as locust MP characters facing off lambent enemies and maybe a few humans (like beast mode) and possibly with some different load outs for your secondary like a torque bow or boomshot. Just an idea is it too much to ask for Epic?

[Timmzy27]

I think it would be nice if they added a horde mode where you could play as locust MP characters facing off lambent enemies and maybe a few humans (like beast mode) and possibly with some different load outs for your secondary like a torque bow or boomshot. Just an idea is it too much to ask for Epic?

IDK, I can't see how that would work. With normal horde, you are fighting off various enemies big and small with various weapons like Boomshots, Gnashers, Retro Lancers etc. Where as what your suggesting would be just be lambent drones and drudges with humans that have no variations.

[Sleeveless Man]

I really hope another Gears game is in the near future. There are so many fantastic ideas floating around. And the grim truth, is most of them won't be implemented, or even considered. It makes me very sad.

I didn't vote for the AI Teammate one, because they would probably need to update their AI quite a bit because I'm not sure the current AI is smart enough to go scrounge for Ammo at the right times and such lol.

[D4u2s0t]

IDK, I can't see how that would work. With normal horde, you are fighting off various enemies big and small with various weapons like Boomshots, Gnashers, Retro Lancers etc. Where as what your suggesting would be just be lambent drones and drudges with humans that have no variations.

polyps
lambent drones
drudges
formers
lambent zerker
gunker
formers
lambent wretches

[D4u2s0t]

I really hope another Gears game is in the near future. There are so many fantastic ideas floating around. And the grim truth, is most of them won't be implemented, or even considered. It makes me very sad.

I didn't vote for the AI Teammate one, because they would probably need to update their AI quite a bit because I'm not sure the current AI is smart enough to go scrounge for Ammo at the right times and such lol.

My guess is it would probably be similar to campaign, in the sense that the bots don't' really do that much, but they do take some of the focus off of you. The thing that makes solo horde difficult is that they ALL focus on you.

[Timmzy27]

polyps
lambent drones
drudges
formers
lambent zerker
gunker
formers
lambent wretches

Lambent Berserkers and Gunkers are Bosses so that leaves, Lambent drones, wretches, drudges, polyps and formers. That is only 5 variants of enemies and even with random CoG/stranded that still makes most the enemies humanoid.

[DaRkNeSs]

Cool idea dude

[quidz]

Good idea, there would have to be separate leaderboards though. I work hard for my high scores and wouldn't like to see my rankings fall because of scores with different settings being easier. Maybe a custom horde leaderboard? Sounds like alot of work for Epic, so prob won't happen. Horde 3.0....

[HRPac]

I'm shocked that the least popular option is customizable enemy spawns.... Who wouldn't love to go up against a squad of grenadier elites or armored kantus.... or just berserkers, etc.

[Timmzy27]

Cool idea dude

Thanks Darkness.

Good idea, there would have to be separate leaderboards though. I work hard for my high scores and wouldn't like to see my rankings fall because of scores with different settings being easier. Maybe a custom horde leaderboard? Sounds like alot of work for Epic, so prob won't happen. Horde 3.0....

Yeah, but these new options would increase/decreas the amount of points you get for score, kinda like what adding 3 easy mutators does to your score.

I'm shocked that the least popular option is customizable enemy spawns.... Who wouldn't love to go up against a squad of grenadier elites or armored kantus.... or just berserkers, etc.

I know right, it would just be for laughs but whos to say I wouldn't enjoy trying to kill 5 lambent berserkers per wave, or till I get bored. I also foresee many threads saying "Check this variation of horde out" to EPIC and then it becomes a weekend event.

[GearsCat]

Support this all the way.

[Masteralex09]

If the free Fortification option gets approved?
*Turns on Gears 3, selects Sandbar and Buys all the Onyx Guards on the map in horde

We should also be able to choose how long we have to build our bases.

We should have more Mutators
Examples:
Dizzy's hat
Dom's Beard
Custom Loadouts/Weapon Spawns
Ability to use Locust Skins(Nothing Changes except you can now use Characters like Theron/Grenadier/Drones in Horde, the Enemies are the same)
Get Gnashty Style Horde(Everyone has a Gnasher Only, Even the Locust, I.E. Drones, Theron, Grenadiers,Kantus)

[DarkNinja]

Sounds cool. More customization would be amazing.

[joey sanchezz]

all i want is a classic horde option

[Timmzy27]

Support this all the way.

Sounds cool. More customization would be amazing.

Thanks for the support guys

If the free Fortification option gets approved?
*Turns on Gears 3, selects Sandbar and Buys all the Onyx Guards on the map in horde

We should also be able to choose how long we have to build our bases.

We should have more Mutators
Examples:
Dizzy's hat
Dom's Beard
Custom Loadouts/Weapon Spawns
Ability to use Locust Skins(Nothing Changes except you can now use Characters like Theron/Grenadier/Drones in Horde, the Enemies are the same)
Get Gnashty Style Horde(Everyone has a Gnasher Only, Even the Locust, I.E. Drones, Theron, Grenadiers,Kantus)

I would like that also, so have the 4 AI team mates and then go buy 4 or 5 Onyx Guard Decoys (If the map has 4 or 5 Decoys on it) and just have a laugh in horde.

[Timmzy27]

All I want is a classic horde option

As do I but I would also like my options to mess around with in private horde.

[Doctor Pie 7056]

Bots wouldn't work the whole no dieing for a round is in affect and all...

[Contact Shotz]

Your ideas all sound cool...I'm all for having real ai bots in horde. It would definitely make private matches more interesting....they already do it for private vs games why not horde

[Timmzy27]

Bots wouldn't work the whole no dieing for a round is in affect and all...

I'm sorry, could you word this a bit better?

Your ideas all sound cool...I'm all for having real AI bots in horde. It would definitely make private matches more interesting....they already do it for private vs games why not horde

My thoughts exactly, why not have AI team mates like we do for private matches? Even if the bots are rubbish and don't actually get many kills, at least they provide a distraction.

[Timmzy27]

I would just like to thank everyone supporting this thread, I may make a MP options thread tomorrow to sister this thread so no need to make that as I will have it covered.

[ViLeLiqUiDatOr]

I support this 100%, especially choosing enemies for the next set of waves.

[Timmzy27]

I support this 100%, especially choosing enemies for the next set of waves.

Why thank you, most people will come on this forum to rage about the MP but I for one would rather talk and try and improve Horde.

[Timmzy27]

Ive had another option idea, wave interval time. Chose from 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 and 30 (Default)

[Timmzy27]

I think that 5 second intervals would be better than individual second intervals both for ease of editing and who wants to scroll through 30 numbered options when they could select 6?

[HiperionZ]

Liked #1 and #4

[Cheez it]

I want a mode where it is several boat loads of formers that constantly come at you.

[Timmzy27]

I want a mode where it is several boat loads of formers that constantly come at you.

Then option 3 may be your cup of tea. Customize each wave with how many enemies you want and what enemies you want.

[v Silver F0X v]

I agree with the custom loadout i.e. start with Torque Bow, etc.

More mutators are needed to add replay value:
-Auto Reload
-Power Weapons have infinite ammo

Also increase the amount of mutator slots from 3 to 5.

[RoboSeal1]

Sad thing is there are many great ideas on these forums that epic wont consider until the next gears title

[Timmzy27]

Sad thing is there are many great ideas on these forums that epic wont consider until the next gears title

Yeah but if there was on thing that horde need from GoW2 was the abilty to change more of the options like what i've created in this thread.

Also, one thing I thought but forgot to put in this thread was the ability to change the wave interval time in sets of 5 seconds, so 5, 10, 15 etc up till 30 which be default. Either that or the ability to press a certain button to let your team know your ready to skip the rest of the count down so your not waiting 30 seconds every wave.

[OScaveman]

Love all the ideas. Customization is always a good thing


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[Timmzy27]

Love all the ideas. Customization is always a good thing.

These options should have been in the game from the beginning.

[maxcer0081]

you forgot the add the option to join in progress